[alpha10]

Originally Posted by Vipers @ Zinc-HT

Not trying to push any buttons here alpha, honest But if you do eventually go with the IB's and you do have to upgrade to 7B's would it not be worth considering the IB2S-A's? I think after hearing their XBD bigger brother at our open day that would definately be something I would consider.

You could even have them in Blue to match your LED's, I'm sure Mrs Alpha would approve

IB2S-A | PMC Loudspeakers

That is definitely a thought, I did love the big brothers, and you can do them in stages, adding the XBD later

The only advantage of staying passive, is that I could go IBs and then at a later date go 7B's, once I have recovered..

[Haemus]

Originally Posted by Vipers @ Zinc-HT

We seem to be merging the PMC and Bryston threads here, better get back on track what does everyone think to James Model T speakers that he has been developing for a while, active with DSP Crossovers, nice looking floorstander alpha, maybe just what you are looking for

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Model T? Does it have anything to do with any colour you like as long as it is black?

Who is better positioned than you Vipers to share the virtues of say DSP8000, speaking actives outside PMC realm?
Or, shall I fix my gaze on crystal ball to see DS-0028 courtesy of PMC in near future, suitable for all things passive.
What is YOUR pick?

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Hi Guys,

Here's a nice review of the BDA-1/BDP-1 combo -

Bryston BDP-1 Digital Player and BDA-1 DAC | CANADA HiFi Magazine

Ok lets keep this thread to Bryston only please.

[Welwynnick]

Originally Posted by alpha10

The primary and secondary would have to be non-continuous, variable tap, in some way to store energy, maybe that is also how the voltage control is being varied?
Cheers

Very refreshing to talk to someone who understands. Yes, I think regulation is implemented with a variable tap (didn't know any conditioners did that), but I don't think that gives any real storage. I'm leaning away from the fly-back theory as well - that sort of thing is for CRT TVs and car ignition coils, where you have a once-per-cycle discharge.

Power supplies don't work like that, the sort of short-duration that we're interested in here (several ms to several secs) is longer than the rectified 100Hz/120Hz charging cycle. So the transformer builds and drops its magnetic field many times in that time. Capacitors and batteries store energy, not transformers.

Storage is DC, transformers are AC, so I'm now officially sceptical about the ability of a single-conversion conditioner (which operates entirely at AC) to store the sort of energy that Bryston & Torus are talking about. I think double-conversion units can do it, but not single-conversion.

However, while looking at the Bryston web-site there was an article about balanced power, and why the BIT didn't output that (domestic equipment safety regulations). It got me wondering about balanced power though, and it seems that its a recent development, and increasingly used in recording studios. The benefits are much the same as balanced interconnects - good common-mode rejection, and protection against noise and interference. All good things in my book, though I wonder if screened power cables dont' achieve the same thing? Anyway, it seems there are quite a few mains conditioner makers that have balanced power models, such as Equi-Tech, Furman and Transcendent. I guess I was unwittingly using balanced power to my 100V Sony 9100 when I was using a variac (which had a differential output), and I was slightly surprised how good it sounded. Bryston & Torus don't appear to do this, and I guess that PurePower, PS Audio and Power Inspired don't either.

However, I still don't see where the short-term peak power is coming from. I'd like to see an indepenent test to prove that.

Nick

[Dav1dF]

Originally Posted by recruit

Ok lets keep this thread to Bryston only please.

So just to get things completely clear as I want to be 100% on this - are we not allowed to talk about speakers that can be used with Bryston gear?

[Julian Stevens]

Originally Posted by Dav1dF

So just to get things completely clear as I want to be 100% on this - are we not allowed to talk about speakers that can be used with Bryston gear?

Speakers not merely suitable for use with Bryston gear, but speakers that have been designed with it! How can you separate Bryston from PMC?

That aside, on the subject of mains purification devices, I'm no technician but I'm inclined to agree that transformers simply cannot store power in reserve for when a heavy transient comes along and the amplifier/s demand/s an extra slurp of juice to satisfy that short term extra demand. That's what capacitors are supposed to do, isn't it?

By the same token, I'm no champion of batteries over any other method of capacitance, but it's my understanding that batteries are the purest source of power (DC), enough of them can provide a lot of capacitance, and rectifying incoming AC to DC, then back again to AC is the best way to buffer your system from all the grunge on conventional household mains ~ it just can't get through the conversion process.

Then again, Krell's approach to most of their heavyweight amp's seems to be to include a massive (and massively heavy) power transformer. They're noted for their huge reserves of power and (to quote from an old Martin Colloms' review) 'centre of the earth slam' in the bass. Reportedly, they don't seem to take kindly to mains conditioners, either.

[Julian Stevens]

I don't suppose there's anyone out there with a black BP26 who might be prepared to consider exchanging it for my (mint condition) silver one + a cash balance, is there?

[fidgety]

I'd like to do the same with my silver bda-1. Maybe someone fancies changing from black to silver. My bp26 and 4BSST2 are black.

[Julian Stevens]

I just can't seem to find it now, but somebody a while back suggested that a pair of 7B's (may) sound better plugged directly into the wall than to a power conditioner. That, surely, would depend on the power conditioner!

Since buying my PurePower, it's never occurred to me to plug my 7B's into the wall sockets to compare, though I stumbled this morning on http://www.runningspringsaudio.com/p..._Issue_193.pdf which indicates that, in the opinion of Bob Harley anyway, a good power conditioner can enhance the dynamic range of a power amp, presumably on account of its extra reserves of power ~ much, I guess, as you'd expect of a conditioner that features extra capacitance as part of its design.

[Julian Stevens]

Originally Posted by fidgety

I'd like to do the same with my silver bda-1. Maybe someone fancies changing from black to silver. My bp26 and 4BSST2 are black.

I have a black BDA-1 and a silver BP26! PMC can fit black faceplates to the BP26 ~ at a cost of £450 each!

[jimbles]

Hello a new owner of the SP3 with initial set up problems, i just cant seem to re assign any of the functions for example i have connected my cd player through the xlr balanced but get no sound i think i need to assign them to cd but how second i have connected my turntable through the analogue inputs but when you play it you have to turn the volume to max and you just faintly hear it (the power amp meters don't move) when i play a cd through oppo 95 via hdmi it works fine
Any help appreciated
JS

[djnickm]

Hi Jimbles..

I do not own a sp3, but would love to demo one at somepoint. But, I have had a brief look over the unit and from your description of the record player playback it sounds like you have the record player into one of the normal RCA inputs as the gain from a record dec is very low you get very low volume. Thus, what you need is a dedicated phono input for record decs. Which to be honest I do not remember seeing on the sp3.

You may be able to assign this within the software tho, but I doubt it.

If the sp3 has no record dec input you can always purchase a special phono stage to sit between the record dec and the sp3, this will boost the signal to that of a normal RCA input.

[jimbles]

Thanks djnickm
is there any particular type of phono amp that i need to be looking for or would any phono amp work that you see available
Thanks
jimbles

[fidgety]

Originally Posted by Julian Stevens

I have a black BDA-1 and a silver BP26! PMC can fit black faceplates to the BP26 ~ at a cost of £450 each!

A bit rich for my budget, but good information, thanks. Shame you're not looking at going all silver, as I would swap mine for your black one.

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by jimbles

Hello a new owner of the SP3 with initial set up problems, i just cant seem to re assign any of the functions for example i have connected my cd player through the xlr balanced but get no sound i think i need to assign them to cd but how second i have connected my turntable through the analogue inputs but when you play it you have to turn the volume to max and you just faintly hear it (the power amp meters don't move) when i play a cd through oppo 95 via hdmi it works fine
Any help appreciated
JS

Congratulations..

If you are using the balanced (XLR) input then you need to select either bal-1 or bal-2, you cannot reassign inputs.

As said you will need a phono-pre-amp if you want to use your turntable. I have a Dino/home brew I use when I bring my TT into the main room.

Cheers

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Originally Posted by jimbles

Hello a new owner of the SP3 with initial set up problems

Hi jimbles,

Congratulations on becoming that latest member to the growing SP3 owners club on AVF

Hopefully alpha has answered your questions above, the SP3 is one of the easier processors to set up in my opinion but if you have any further questions please fire away. It definately sounds like you need a need a phono stage for your turntable as the SP3 doesn't have one built in, I use the Linn Uphorik but I've also had great results with the Trichord Dino MK2, there are so many great phono stages out there, also the Naim StageLine is worth looking at.

Enjoy your SP3, once you've got it all working as you'd like please give us an update

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Hi Guys,

James recently posted these latest pics of his Model T speaker project, personally I think they look pretty impressive, I'd love to hear a pair though to see how they compare maybe to say the PB1i, James has hinted that if they go into production there maybe a passive or active versions, all very interesting

[ritchief]

To all BDP1 owners....

From James

"Hi All,

New software for the BDP-1 is available as of today. Email me with your serial number and where purchase and I will send you the file and instructions.

jamestanner@bryston.com

james"

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Originally Posted by ritchief

To all BDP1 owners....

From James

"Hi All,

New software for the BDP-1 is available as of today. Email me with your serial number and where purchase and I will send you the file and instructions.

jamestanner@bryston.com

james"

Thanks Rich, e-mail sent, hopefully get it installed at work today and get a chance to have a play with the new MAX 2 interface

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by Vipers @ Zinc-HT

Thanks Rich, e-mail sent, hopefully get it installed at work today and get a chance to have a play with the new MAX 2 interface

Sent my email to, hopefully get mine done later and I will report back

Cheers

[larevoj]

Love all 67kg of it!!

An interesting article from Nelson Pass - https://passlabs.com/articles/power-...-for-consumers

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by larevoj

Love all 67kg of it!!

An interesting article from Nelson Pass - https://passlabs.com/articles/power-...-for-consumers

Fantastic, how are you finding the BIT???

Cheers

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

OOOhhhh, Thanks for the pic larevoj, obviously I'm very jealous, as alpha has asked, please do give us an idea of any differences it has made to your system

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

James has just posted these pics of the first BHA-1's on the burn in bench, I've checked and it's certainly not April 1st so hopefully it is for real Fingers crossed, one will be winging it's way to me shortly

Alpha, if you look closely enough they seem to have a blue LED on the front panel, anything to do with you by any chance?

[larevoj]

Hi Guys, many thanks

The Torus has always been something very special for me.

Shortly after I have my full Bryston setup I auditioned an identical setup in the showroom where we swap the Torus in and out. I was completely convinced what the Torus RM16 can do and its not a subtle difference to my ears. I also compared it with an upgrade of amplifiers and yes it does make a difference but that is subjective versus the Torus...and obviously a bigger amp with Torus would be magical please don't believe what I say and go hear for yourself.

Now the BIT16 - IN MY ROOM!

I can hear everything - Speed, Clarity, Depth, Control, Soundstage, Separation - MUSIC just flows with no congestion and every note played is an enjoyable experience. The BIT16 is not just a surge protection device...to me its much more and weigh more then I expected. Its almost twice the weight of a 28B!

Cheers!~

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by Vipers @ Zinc-HT

Alpha, if you look closely enough they seem to have a blue LED on the front panel, anything to do with you by any chance?

Damn, I have never been into headphones, maybe James is just taking a flyer

cheers

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by larevoj

Now the BIT16 - IN MY ROOM!

I can hear everything - Speed, Clarity, Depth, Control, Soundstage, Separation - MUSIC just flows with no congestion and every note played is an enjoyable experience. The BIT16 is not just a surge protection device...to me its much more and weigh more then I expected. Its almost twice the weight of a 28B!

Cheers!~

Very interesting! If you get a chance can we see a photo of the BIT-16 in the rack with the rest of the Bryston gear, to gauge size??

Cheers

[larevoj]

Originally Posted by alpha10

Very interesting! If you get a chance can we see a photo of the BIT-16 in the rack with the rest of the Bryston gear, to gauge size??

Cheers

I don't think pictures can tell...its a huge toriod in there and much deeper with 28B faceplate I think...which is the same as 14B.

[OnTheFly]

Did I mention I'd bought an SP3. No, I really have this time.

I almost deviated from the chosen path. I was close to buying a Caryaudio 11a until a USA dealer offered me the latest 12 from cary (192/32 kHz). Highly rated products and winner of many awards. Fortunately I found the review highlighting the glitches/bugs/issues. Phew!

I then made an offer on an Audionet Map V2 but it was not enough.

Back then to Bryston and I bit the bullet. I'll be on two channel for quite a while but that's no hardship. How I've missed the famous Bypass feature. Having said that, I'm giving 2 channel optical a listen right now and it sounds fab.