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Old 13-03-2012, 1:47 PM   #391
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Just to let people kow who might be thinking about buying this processor - there will be a price rise for April. Don't say I didn't warn you!
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Any idea how much it is likely to increase by?
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Old 13-03-2012, 2:10 PM   #393
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From £2,200 to £2,400, I believe.
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Old 13-03-2012, 2:22 PM   #394
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From £2,200 to £2,400, I believe.
It's still worth every penny
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Old 13-03-2012, 2:42 PM   #395
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I currently have an onkyo prsc886. Would I better off getting the audyssey pro kit or upgrading to the 5509? Not bothered about 4k scaling just sound quality.
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Old 13-03-2012, 3:44 PM   #396
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I currently have an onkyo prsc886. Would I better off getting the audyssey pro kit or upgrading to the 5509? Not bothered about 4k scaling just sound quality.
I don't have a 5509 but i have gone from XT to XT32 & now have a pro kit,the jump from XT to XT32 is by far the biggest upgrade,I haven't had time to appreciate what pro has done yet but I'd go with the prepro upgrade if it were me.
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Old 13-03-2012, 4:00 PM   #397
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Wise words ^ :-)
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Exactly as Jason said, I have not heard the 5509 but the step from xt to xt32 is massive. Possibly better than the step from no eq to xt. Well certainly as good again in the base department.

The pro kit will give up more measurements and the ability to create your own curves. No matter how well you calibrate with the pro kit on xt you will not get a bass response like that off a basically setup xt32.

Hey Jason, I do not suppose your close to thes south coast and want to bring your AVp down to my little shoot out with Ricky j and smurfin between the onkyo 5509 / mx300 and Ada. I really want to hear the AVp with xt32. That would make things quite interesting indeed.
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Old 13-03-2012, 4:45 PM   #399
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Exactly as Jason said, I have not heard the 5509 but the step from xt to xt32 is massive. Possibly better than the step from no eq to xt. Well certainly as good again in the base department.

The pro kit will give up more measurements and the ability to create your own curves. No matter how well you calibrate with the pro kit on xt you will not get a bass response like that off a basically setup xt32.

Hey Jason, I do not suppose your close to thes south coast and want to bring your AVp down to my little shoot out with Ricky j and smurfin between the onkyo 5509 / mx300 and Ada. I really want to hear the AVp with xt32. That would make things quite interesting indeed.
LOL Jason has OCD when it comes to his system ;-)
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Old 13-03-2012, 6:28 PM   #400
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Hey Jason, I do not suppose your close to thes south coast and want to bring your AVp down to my little shoot out with Ricky j and smurfin between the onkyo 5509 / mx300 and Ada. I really want to hear the AVp with xt32. That would make things quite interesting indeed.
Thats really kind of you to invite me along (well my AVP ) but to be honest i'm so pleased with it that i simply don't care how it compares to other processors & you guys already have you're work cut out for you getting the 5509 & mx300 dialled in then giving them a good listen.

It's also true what Ashman said about the OCD
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I don't have a 5509 but i have gone from XT to XT32 & now have a pro kit,the jump from XT to XT32 is by far the biggest upgrade,I haven't had time to appreciate what pro has done yet but I'd go with the prepro upgrade if it were me.
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Just to clarify are xt32 and the pro kit totally 2 different things? Pardon My ignorance!

Are you saying I should go for the pro kit and stick to my 886 processor?
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Exactly as Jason said, I have not heard the 5509 but the step from xt to xt32 is massive. Possibly better than the step from no eq to xt. Well certainly as good again in the base department.

The pro kit will give up more measurements and the ability to create your own curves. No matter how well you calibrate with the pro kit on xt you will not get a bass response like that off a basically setup xt32.

Hey Jason, I do not suppose your close to thes south coast and want to bring your AVp down to my little shoot out with Ricky j and smurfin between the onkyo 5509 / mx300 and Ada. I really want to hear the AVp with xt32. That would make things quite interesting indeed.
Just to clarify are you saying that I would get more of an improvement going for a Processor with xt32 than with a Processor with xt and using the pro kit?

My subs already have built in eq. would that have any influence on the processor?

Are there any major benefits of going for a Processor with xt32 and using the pro kit?

Finally does anyone know if the pro Kit can be used with a 5507? I've read somewhere that it won't work With the 5507?
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Old 13-03-2012, 8:16 PM   #403
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Just to clarify are you saying that I would get more of an improvement going for a Processor with xt32 than with a Processor with xt and using the pro kit?

My subs already have built in eq. would that have any influence on the processor?

Are there any major benefits of going for a Processor with xt32 and using the pro kit?

Finally does anyone know if the pro Kit can be used with a 5507? I've read somewhere that it won't work With the 5507?
The pro kit cannot be used with the 5507, Onkyo decided in their wisdom to drop compatibility for that particular model but reintroduced it on the 5508. Incidentally, the 5508 also has XT32 which is why I intend to eventually upgrade to it from my 5507.
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Old 13-03-2012, 8:20 PM   #404
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Are you saying I should go for the pro kit and stick to my 886 processor?
I'm suggesting you go for the 5509,XT32 is a huge jump in performance over XT.

Audyssey pro is a calibrated mic & software that you run on a pc to do you're system calibration,it's much more accurate than the bundled mic.
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Just to clarify are you saying that I would get more of an improvement going for a Processor with xt32 than with a Processor with xt and using the pro kit?
The standard calibration of XT32 with the 5508/5509 will give you far better results than using the Pro Kit with the 886.
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Old 13-03-2012, 8:24 PM   #406
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The standard calibration of XT32 with the 5508/5509 will give you far better results than using the Pro Kit with the 886.
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Thanks for your input guys.

Oh damn! I just purchased a 5507 from the classifieds the other day! May have to sell that back on although I will compare it against my 886 first.

Looks like il probably give the pro kit a miss then!

Right anyone considering upgrading to the 5509 and selling their 5508?!!! Failing that I just may go for the 5509.
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Old 14-03-2012, 3:29 AM   #408
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Thanks for your input guys.

Oh damn! I just purchased a 5507 from the classifieds the other day! May have to sell that back on although I will compare it against my 886 first.

Looks like il probably give the pro kit a miss then!

Right anyone considering upgrading to the 5509 and selling their 5508?!!! Failing that I just may go for the 5509.
Don't get the 5507, it treats your two subs as two separate entities; which is wrong. Go for the 5508 or even a little better the 5509. Both of these correct (EQ) two separate subwoofers properly, by combining (sum up) them as one at the end.

The Auto XT32 is fabulous. And the Pro kit on top of that is just more refined.
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To late! I should be receiving the 5507 today!

I will have a play around with the 5507 but most likely sell It on when a 5508 pops up in the the classifieds.

I may still get the pro kit to use later.Any idea how much the pro kits are second hand, the original unbalanced one?
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To late! I should be receiving the 5507 today!

I may still get the pro kit to use later.Any idea how much the pro kits are second hand, the original unbalanced one?
the Pro Kit comes with XLR and RCA connectors.

Also check out http://www.genesis-technologies.fr/
They are the European Distributers of Audyssey and Sophie is great to deal with.
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There is a new firmware available for the 5509, adding Pro support. The updated Audyssey software is also available for download.

The 3009 and 5009 are also supported, making my pre-release 'speculation' correct.
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I was going to run the Pro calibration on my 5509 this afternoon, but Audyssey haven't yet made the license available on their website.
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Where can one buy the pro kit? peter
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the Pro Kit comes with XLR and RCA connectors.

Also check out http://www.genesis-technologies.fr/
They are the European Distributers of Audyssey and Sophie is great to deal with.
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Where can one buy the pro kit? peter
As quoted by ashmanuk a few posts above yours.

Give them a call on Monday. Par le vous Francais?
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These people in the states also sell the pro kit

Audyssey MultEQ Pro Calibration Kit

But I am sure one will turn up on eBay or here of you are patient enough. That is was I ended up doing. Had to wait a few months then one turned up. £200-£300 is about the price for the kit alone, second hand.
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There is a new firmware available for the 5509, adding Pro support. The updated Audyssey software is also available for download.

The 3009 and 5009 are also supported, making my pre-release 'speculation' correct.
Mathew i missed this post from you

Right i'am off to download
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Mathew i missed this post from you

Right i'am off to download
Don't get too excited, Audyssey are not yet offering the license for a 5509.
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These people in the states also sell the pro kit

Audyssey MultEQ Pro Calibration Kit

But I am sure one will turn up on eBay or here of you are patient enough. That is was I ended up doing. Had to wait a few months then one turned up. £200-£300 is about the price for the kit alone, second hand.
That pro kit is only equipped with multi eq XT, and not XT32 that some receivers now have installed. Therefore, this system is inferior to any XT32 equipped system. Its one of the reason the pro kit is being discontinued, and the SVS EQ-1 is also discontinued.
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That pro kit is only equipped with multi eq XT, and not XT32 that some receivers now have installed. Therefore, this system is inferior to any XT32 equipped system. Its one of the reason the pro kit is being discontinued, and the SVS EQ-1 is also discontinued.
I think you are confusing 2 things here. The Pro kit referred to in the post is the calibrated microphone, software etc to carry out a pro calibration on a pro enabled product. The Pro kit you are referring to is the standalone Audyssey unit
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That pro kit is only equipped with multi eq XT, and not XT32 that some receivers now have installed. Therefore, this system is inferior to any XT32 equipped system. Its one of the reason the pro kit is being discontinued, and the SVS EQ-1 is also discontinued.
As RickyJ has pointed out, the Pro Kit is just the Mic and software required to perform a Pro calibration. It can be used with any device that has XT or XT32 which is Pro capable.
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