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Nick Beecham
17-09-2003, 3:28 PM
According to the Euro1080TV website:
"The display format Euro1080 has chosen to use for HDTV is 1920 pixels x 1080 lines @ 50 hertz "
On this basis, can anyone say whether or not it will be possible for the JVC 30000U to record these transmissions?
Thanks
Nick
Chris Muriel
17-09-2003, 3:54 PM
I am not familiar with the JVC30000u ; I know its a DVCR capable of HD recording.
We could tell you more if you gave us a link to its specifications perhaps.
Also, I suspect it will be HDCP aware - so you may find this stops you recording content for which you don't have official rights.
Certainly I have heard of this happening with HD content sent OTA by Dish Network in the USA.
I can record (and playback) ok via a PC hard=disk and via a CD-ROM with no problems.
Chris Muriel, Manchester.
Chris Muriel, Manchester.
Nick Beecham
17-09-2003, 4:38 PM
Chris
Here is the link to its specs:
http://www.dvhsmovie.com/hardware/hardware-detail.asp?hid=1
Thanks
Nick
mattmarsden
17-09-2003, 5:51 PM
1080i 50Hz is part of the ATSC specification, so the JVC 30K should be able to record the programming OK.
Hopefully HDCP flags will not be sent with the transmissions, as it is not in America.
Many people have used the 30K to record HD programming on channels such as HBO, Showtime and HDNET.
Nick Beecham
18-09-2003, 7:27 AM
Sounds good.
Many thanks
Nick
Bernard Barnett
18-09-2003, 7:32 AM
Nick, early versions of the JVC 30k are reported to have been problematic. The issue is extensively discussed on the US version of these forums - I think it's called the AVS Forum.
Nick Beecham
18-09-2003, 7:34 AM
Bernard
The only problems I know about are with drop outs. I had loads of these until I got hold of the official tape head cleaner. My JVC now works perfectly.
Do you mean that there are problems specifically related to recording?
Nick
Hi,
The JVC 30K and 40K only have composite, S-video and iLink inputs - no component or DVI. Would future European HD sat receivers have iLink outputs (like some Samsungs in the US) to allow digital recordings? The currently announced Smart Imperator has a DVI output which would be good for my plasma, but not so good for recording. :(
Steve
Bernard Barnett
19-09-2003, 7:09 AM
Nick, I forget exactly what the problems were. But there seemed to be a lot of them according to the avs forums threads! The reason I was looking was that I was thinking of buying one - but all the complaints made me pause. May I ask where you got yours from?
Forgot to add that all the avs stuff is in the "HD Recorders" section. Makes very interesting reading.
Nick Beecham
19-09-2003, 7:31 AM
Bernard
I've seen all the AVS stuff too.
If you don't have one yet, you might as well go for the 40K which looks like it might be more reliable, has dts and 1080 menus.
Gordon got hold of mine for me.
I believe there is also a site: www.crtprojectors.co.uk, that sells them.
Nick
I'd imagine that a good dealer could get one from JVC Pro in the UK.
Bernard Barnett
19-09-2003, 12:17 PM
Thanks folks.
JVC Pro UK are currently awaiting for CE certification on the 30k and 40k D-Theatre D-VHS decks. When they have been cleared they will be available to dealers from Marata Vision, along with the rest of the JVC projector range who we are UK home cinema distributors for.
If you would like any further info on any of them feel free to ask.
Richard Wilson
Tech Support @ Marata Vision
Gordon @ Convergent AV
23-09-2003, 9:53 AM
I think they've been waiting for that for about 12 months now Rick.......
Gordon
ReTrO
23-09-2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Gordon @ Convergent AV
I think they've been waiting for that for about 12 months now Rick.......
Gordon
I wasn't in this job that long ago. :grin:
Wait and see...
gavins
29-09-2003, 11:57 AM
If the ('official' UK, CE certified) JVC 40K does arrive in the UK, will it play the NTSC D-Theater tapes and also record analog PAL?
ReTrO
29-09-2003, 12:58 PM
From what I know it will only do what the US model does.
More on it when I know.
ReTrO
01-10-2003, 12:37 PM
More news due end of this week or start of next week.
gavins
09-10-2003, 7:23 PM
Originally posted by ReTrO
More news due end of this week or start of next week.
Any news?
Apologies for the delay, I've had a few other things to sort out. I will find out tomorow
An update:
My demo 40000 is due in today (or failing that very early next week). I have been given a preliminary date of 4 weeks from noew for finalising the CE bits.
I will keep this thread upto date as and when I hear more news.
The Beekeeper
10-10-2003, 11:28 AM
Please keep us posted :)
Will the UK version of the 40k b able to playback the 1080i/50 streams like those from Euro1080 (http://www.euro1080.tv)?
Filip
That'll be something I'll be finding out. I think they were used over at the IBC, where they had the 1080 test broadcasts.
I shall find out.
ReTrO
14-10-2003, 12:11 PM
Update:
My JVC SR-VD400U arrived today.
It is fitted with a 220/240v PSU, so that's quite useful. Not had much time to play with it yet though.
It is Region 1/EC (East Coast) set for the D-Theater tapes, of those of you who wanted to know.
More on it when I have time to play. :grin:
It's at least a good thing the region is set properly:)
Hopefully it can output 1080i/50Hz too ...
Filip
Apparently the Marantz MV8300 would support 1080i/50 but unfortunately it will not be sold in Europe:(
Filip
Any update on the 1080i/50 compatibility of the JVC 40K?
Filip
museumsteve
24-10-2003, 4:55 PM
surely the 40k will only output NTSC and therefore handle 1080i/60hz. I dont see JVC producing a new machine for Europe somehow..
The VD400U that we have at work is essentially a 40000 but the Pro version, with a few extra bits that won't affect the standard home end user. The only difference between the US version and the one we have is that ours is fitted with a UK/EU 220/240v PSU.
I have no details on the final spec of the CE certified unit that will be available for sale yet, but the VD400 will be on 'show' at The Event II.
Hi - I have a Panasonic AE300 LCD projector and have noticed it is Hi-def compatible through scaling of the input source, due to its native resolution of 960x540.
I am very tempted to buy a US JVC D-VHS machine to take advantage of D-Theatre, however would I notice a marked improvement when compared to progressive scan DVD when using this projector? I assume it would be connected via the component video inputs.
Obviously, if a UK sourced machine is in the pipeline, I will wait a little longer. However I am pleasantly surprised in regard to the number of 'D-Theatre' movies available from the USA.
gizlaroc
19-11-2003, 7:57 PM
Originally posted by djnsh
would I notice a marked improvement when compared to progressive scan DVD when using this projector?
I assume it would be connected via the component video inputs.
Colours, detail, depth and sound would be the first things that stand out.
The whole thing just looks right. :)
pemberto
01-12-2003, 12:56 PM
Just got this email from JVC Pro UK regarding the status of the D-VHS player.
"Although the recorder model SR-VD400US (for USA) has been available for some 2 or 3 months in North America, the European model SR-VD400E (for Europe) is not expected ex factory till February, which would mean first sales in March.
It is a D-VHS (Data VHS) based recorder, specially designed to be an HD recorder, complete with up-conversion and down-conversion from its native 720p / 60. Sadly, like the JY-HD10 camcorder, it is a 60 Hz HD machine. There is no plan as yet to bring in the sister machine SR-VDA300US .
Your best way to obtain the specification is to look at our USA website and substitute the mains power spec of 110V / 60 with 230V / 50. www.jvc.com and look under Professional Section, HDTV products."
Marcus Wood
28-12-2003, 1:25 PM
Does anyone know if the US 40k will playback PAL VHS/SVHS tapes? (I know it doesn't record PAL).
If not, is the European version likely to do this?
Gordon @ Convergent AV
28-12-2003, 2:00 PM
My 30,000 will not playback PAL tapes so I dounbt the 40.000 will
G
museumsteve
29-12-2003, 9:05 PM
no it wont playback PAL tapes and I really dont think there is going to be a PAL version at all, just the US version with a UK power supply and as it will be 60hz only it wont do PAL..
Marcus Wood
02-01-2004, 12:10 PM
I would have thought it would be quite easy (read cheap) to make the European version of the 40k play PAL tapes, because even very cheap VCRs sold in the UK play back NTSC tapes.
If it doesn't do this, and the European version is Region 2, then no-one will buy it, because:
- There may not be much Region 2 software available.
-It's possible that hacking the Region setting will not be possible, given the claims made for the D-Theater encryption security.
- The VCR will presumably carry a special European price (i.e. £1000 instead of US$1000).
museumsteve
03-01-2004, 11:21 PM
as far as I can work out the European version wont be region 2. The Euro machines that are apparently at distributors are US machines with 220v power supplies and therefore still reg 1 for D-Theater. Remember that the regionalisation is only for D-Theater tapes only and I cant see them making a European showing at all. The main reason for VCRs will be to record off-air not watch pre-recorded I'd guess.
I'd be more inclined to think JVC maybe second guessing the Euro HD furture and that maybe they assume broadcasts will be 60hz. This may be way-off but I cant understand why JVC would look to release an NTSC machine otherwise. Also maybe it is easier to get a PAL machine to play NTSC but vice versa could be more difficult - maybe someone else can throw some more light on the situation.
The above are of course opinions so dont quote me on this..:) I wouldn;t be without my 40k ;) best piece of AV kit I bought since my amp
The 40K is available for less than $650 in the US, it costs nearly £900 here. :(