Just got my PDA-IR for the Axim - WOW!!!!!

[Messiah]

Having decided to go down the pda route rather than pay the high price for a dedicated remote control I have just received the PDA-IR extender this morning. After all of 5 seconds to install it and set the pdawin remote software to use it all I can say is

WOW :clap: :smashin: :zonked: :grin:

My Axim, bought as a dedicated remote control for less than half the price of a colour pronto is now easily as powerful as my existing b&w Prontos with all the benefits of colour and expandability.

Not only do I have a colour remote but I also have a

Satellite and TV Guide listing (on my remote using MyDigiGuide)
Portable web browser (using a CF Wi-Fi card)
Wireless e-mail device (using said card)
Portable games device for those boring film moments
...and a device that can do so many other things for a ridciulously low price (compared to dedicated colour remote that are just remotes)

Oh, and I also have a number of CCFs loaded onto an SD card so the device can be used in different rooms in the house if required.

trust me people, this is the way to go if you want a colour remote. Superb.

http://www.btinternet.com/~wattsn/Aximremote.jpg

[Geezer]

Looks very good mate, i have that same CCF on my colour pronto which ive been modifying fo ages. Id rather have my Pronto though

[Messiah]

Originally posted by Geezer
Id rather have my Pronto though

Why?

[Geezer]

Originally posted by Messiah
Why?

Always found pocket pcs a bit twitchy, and id rather have something that was made specifically for the job.

[Zef]

This looks a excellent solution, How much did it all cost etc - and where did you get it all from.

Thanks

[Messiah]

Originally posted by Zef
This looks a excellent solution, How much did it all cost etc - and where did you get it all from.

Thanks

400MHz Axim bought for £249
PDA-IR extender bought for £25 (www.laser.com)
TVRemote software for $14.95 (www.pdawin.com)

So all for around £285.

[Geezer]

Whats is like on power consumption though?

[Messiah]

Get at least 10 hours use with backlight on. Not a problem in a HC as what film or session lasts that long. Believe me it is a non issue.

My pronto always sits on its docking station when not actually being used so the pda is absolutely no different.

[Loada]

Worth noting that you cannot have wi-fi and IR at the same time - there is only one CF slot.

I guess you swap the cards??

[graham.myers]

I'm looking into the ipaq 5450 Pocket PC (I have a Palm Tungsten at the mo with built in bluetooth)

This ipaq has built in wi-fi AND bluetooth, but is £500

[Messiah]

Originally posted by graham.myers
I'm looking into the ipaq 5450 Pocket PC (I have a Palm Tungsten at the mo with built in bluetooth)

This ipaq has built in wi-fi AND bluetooth, but is £500

Graham

The ipaq is a great device but the problem with using it for a remote is it does not have a CF slot for the PDA-IR extender. You therefore either have to use a CF sleeve (Yuk) or put up with the opuny range and directionality of the standard emitter (thus rendering it almost useless in a normal HC setup).

Check out the Axim. It's half the price, has battery backup for those moments when the main battery dies down and has both a CF and SD slot giving pretty good expandability.

Be honest, are you really going to use Bluetooth :), Wi-Fi yes but Bluetooth????

[Messiah]

Originally posted by Loada
Worth noting that you cannot have wi-fi and IR at the same time - there is only one CF slot.

I guess you swap the cards??

Yeah. You can hot swap so no hassle and I reckon it won't be long before someone comes out with an SD Wi-Fi card. And lets not forget a standard colour remote (at twice the price) does not have Wi-Fi capability at all so it is a real bonus.

[graham.myers]

yeah I've read good things about the axim, I just like the fact the ipaq has bluetooth and wi-fi as i use blue tooth at the mo for sending sms to my mobile, I'd rather not have to buy a bt card and have to swap.

I'll look into getting a cf jacket - I can always leave the jacket in my media room and just connect it when i want to use it as a remote. [EDIT: £80 for a jacket :eek:]

I have a b&w pronto (well the Marantz rc5000) and was considering upgrading to the pronto pro. This is another good reason to switch from palm to pocket pc (the other reason was a blutooth GPS and tom tom sat nav software)

thanks for the info.

[purple52]

Originally posted by Messiah
I reckon it won't be long before someone comes out with an SD Wi-Fi card.

eXpansys are listing one on their website, but it's not actually available yet:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=WLAN6060

Don't know about compatibility with the Axim, though. I've read that it doesn't support SDIO, although there is debate as to whether this is a hardware or firmware issue.

David

[calibos]

Messiah,

I will definately be going down this route too but the thought just occured to me that the Axim won't be able to learn codes like the Pronto. In which case I will have to search for ccf's that have my equipment in them and rob the codes. Am I right?

[Messiah]

With CCFs yes.

If you use the standard layout option no. The TVRemote software has a learn mode so you can create your layout and then in learn mode you identify the button you want to learn a code to and fire the original remote into the IR window and hey presto, it learns it.

Pic below of learn help screen from pda s/w.

http://www.btinternet.com/~wattsn/learn.jpg

[graham.myers]

according to the spec sheets of the the two ipaqs I'm looking at (3970 and 5450) they come with rc software and an upgraded "consumer grade" ir. They've boosted the ir output so it can act as a rc. So by the sound of it I shouldn't need a PDA-IR

anybody used the supplied rc software? is it a patch on the messiah is using?

[Messiah]

Unfortunately Graham I think you'll find the models you are referring to still have rather puny IR emitters. Check out dan's review over at RemoteCentral and I think you may find you still need a PDA-IR. However, if it's the iPaq you're going for anyway (the one with the Nevo chip and s/w) you can always try it out and only get the PDA-IR if needs be.

dan's review is very comprehensive and should answer most, if not all, your questions.

I just didn't want a potential paperweight if it didn't work as I have bought mine specifically for HC use.

[Kramer]

Nice how Dell are charging €90 more for the Axim delivered 2 miles from their plant in Ireland than to anywhere in the UK :mad:

Looks sweeeeeeeet Messiah - definitely getting me one of them. Will be on the blower looking for set-up tips etc... when she arrives.

Axim = :smashin:
Dell (.ie) = :(

[calibos]

Totally agree kramer....Rip-off Britain?? Pah. Pales in comparison to Rip-off Ireland. Don't think the axims are made in the Limerick plant though. Its Dell badged, but I don't think its made by Dell. Still they're probably shipped from wherever they're made to Limerick from where they're then shipped to the customer.........in the UK.........for €80 less...........than you............2 miles.........down the road................from Dell!! :) :rolleyes:

[Kramer]

Well, tried to outsmart Dell - ordered on the .co.uk site. Accepted credit card details etc...receipt issued.

Just got an e-mail:

"Sorry, but you ordered on the UK site, please re-order on the .ie site. We've cancelled your order".

:mad:

So they still expect me to pay €90 more for the exact same thing (inc. CF Lan card) even though I live 2 miles from where they dispatch.

Funny how they now have free delivery on the Axim on the .ie site, saving Irish peeps €12.10. Only thing is the free delivery isn't applied :rotfl:

Gees, I hate Dell. Why don't anyone else market this thing - it pains me to give Dell a penny.

May have to take you up on your offer Messiah ;)

[calibos]

I've bought 2 computers to the value of 4 grand in the last 4 years of them which they'll be able to check up on. I may ring them before I buy and ask why its €90 dearer here in Ireland, if they're going to make me pay it and which PC manufacture would they recommend for my next €2000+ desktop purchase!! :) :)

Or I could just put the order through the family business and claim the €70-80 VAT back.....or do both!! Decisions, decisions! :)

[milanlad]

If I have an IPAQ H5450, which would be the better software, the internal NEVO, or REMOTECONTROL software?

Do both softare offer learning options?

I'm new to PDA universal remote controls.

Thanks

[The Beekeeper]

This is good stuff, keep us posted long term please.

[graham.myers]

Originally posted by milanlad
If I have an IPAQ H5450, which would be the better software, the internal NEVO, or REMOTECONTROL software?

Do both softare offer learning options?

I'm new to PDA universal remote controls.

Thanks

there is a review of the nevo over at remote central

http://www.remotecentral.com/nevo/

[RICKYJ]

That looks and sounds very good indeed.

I am going to purchase a dell axim in the next couple of days (for the main purpose of a remote control), and was just wondering if i really need the performance version, or would the 300mhz version do the job.

Has any one tried running the Axim at the reduced rate of 200mhz, to see how the remote works.

Also does the timer function on the software allow the pda to run a macro at a given time.

Finally does the ir extender need to be pointed directly at the seperate, I only ask, because by using the timer function (questioned above), I was hoping to switch the radio on in my room in the morn. But if it was placed in the docking station, it points straight up.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Ricky:)

[Messiah]

Originally posted by yumyum33
if i really need the performance version, or would the 300mhz version do the job.

Lower spec one will work just fine. You don't get the funky d/s included though with the 300MHz one.

Has any one tried running the Axim at the reduced rate of 200mhz, to see how the remote works.

Not tried that sorry. Why would you want to?

Also does the timer function on the software allow the pda to run a macro at a given time.

Don't use timers I'm afraid.

Finally does the ir extender need to be pointed directly at the seperate,

No. The PDA-IR unit is so powerful you can point it just about anywhere in the room.

[RICKYJ]

Thanks for the fast reply, to answer your question, the main reasons I asked about using the 200mhz option, was to see if the speed made much of a difference to the operations of the remote, should I go for the slower version.

Just gotta work out my finances now to see which one I can realistically afford.

Thanks again for you feedback.

Ricky

[RICKYJ]

You quoted £25 as the price you paid for the pda ir extender, yet Laser are charging me £32 inc delivery for mine, how did you get yours for £25.

Ricky

[Messiah]

Because I didn't include delivery. The actual card was £24.99 IIRC.

Still don't understand how you can reduce the speed of the PDA. I thought they were either 300MHz or 400MHz?

[RICKYJ]

That would be why then.

As for the speed issue, I am sure I have read somewhere that the Dell axim has a power saving option, which uses less of the systems resources, and slows the operating speed to half, so that the battery life is extended.

Maybe I mis read it though, will look through the magasines I have, and let you know what I find tommorrow.

Cheers for all your help.

Ricky

[Messiah]

You are absolutely correct. Just checked mine under the Power option in Settings and it has an option to choose Normal (400MHz), Power Save (200MHz) or Auto.

Mine was set to Auto but running at 200MHz (it displays the processor speed). Has absolutely no effect on the IR capabilities although at the higher processor speed probably does screen changes about a nano-second faster :)

Nice one. Think I'll just leave mine on Auto and lte it work itself out.

[Party Animal]

where can these things be purchased other than Dell's site

[Messiah]

I got mine from http://www.121eurotech.com

[Party Animal]

Messiah
You have nearly got me reaching for the Credit card here, but I have been reading on the Remote central forums and there seems to be a growing number of people reporting that these Axims are freezing up. much the same as a normal PC would...has yours done this
also on remotes site, there seems to be not very many colour files to choose from....To play around with, as an example I can only find 2 Sky plus CCF'S and not one Panasonic version 4 plasma CCF (in Colour)

Excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject, the ccf you show in your Picture in the opening thread Looks really cool. did you make it up yourself, or mix a bunch of CCF's
finally I have downloaded pronto edit 4 and it looks pretty daunting to a beginner.

[cheapskate2003]

How are you finding the touch screen? Can you just hit the buttons with fingers like a pronto or is it less sensitive because it is obviously designed to be used with a pen thing. Just another thing, pronto edit does look a bit daunting but you will get the hang of it pretty quickly, its certainly easier than using the remote to programme it all.

[Messiah]

No freezes whatsoever in t e weeks I've had it. Not once. And the screen needs only the lightest of touches. It's awesome.

I have a load of CCFs loaded on a 64MB SD card. Because I haven't finished my colour CCFs yet I also have my b&w ones for everyday use and the colour ones at the moment for testing and showing off :)

Don't get me wrong, there are a few minor compromises but the plus points FAR outweigh them.

My CCF is a mix of several from RC and if they don't have what I want/need I just create it. It's really not that difficult. Just edit existing graphics. Takes time but very rewarding.

BTW, all my forum activity tonight is being done on my Axim with cf wi-fi card. What other remote can do that :)

[graham.myers]

way to go messiah. I've been missing my palm tungsten - 'er in doors has been in hospital and insisted on confiscating it to type her sms to my bluetooth phone.

she's back home tonight - the pda - sod the wife :)

[RICKYJ]

Thats good, I thought I was going mad, as couldn't find anything last night about reducing the speed.

Anyway, I have ordered Axim this morn, the performance version, as they have got an offer on at present.

Cheers for all your help.

Ricky;)

[mikeq]

Mine delivered at 5:00 tonight, just waiting for the batteries to charge (at least 4 hours they say). Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up

[RichardJ]

Out of interest, can the hard buttons i.e. the navigator buttons be configured for remote control commands or is it just the screen ?

[Messiah]

PDAWin automatically assigns the functions of the hard buttons that would be used by a standard Pronto pro as follows

joypad up = volume +
joypad down = volume -
joypad left = prog. ch -
joypad right = prog. ch +
joypad middle (enter) = mute

The 4 navigator keys are automatically assigned the functions that are assigned to the 4 Pronto Pro hard buttons.

All nice and easy and totally automatic.

The rocker (up/down) switch on the side of the Axim can also be assigned actions. I use mine for volume up and down.

[buns]

im planning on setting up a wireless network...... using the axim thingy connected to the network, could i send commands from a network station in an alternative location to the axim and control from a distance?

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[Messiah]

Have a look on RemoteCentral for discussions on something called slinke

[buns]

yeah i know vaguely a bit about that....... i thought it was something which let the pc send commands to IR.... what im thinking is avoiding that and just accessing the axim from an alternative netwok location........ i guess im more asking a networking question....... from one network point can i simply pull up the desktop of another network point and control it?

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[Messiah]

Ah, sorry. Yes, real easy and quite fantastic. Download yourself Dotpocket from Novosoft and prepare to be amazed. Complete remote control of your PDA (it does work with the Axim despite their warning) over an ethernet network or activesync connection.

However, remember than when you have the PDA-IR card inserted your wi-fi card won't be.

http://www.dotpocket.net/download.html

Go try it. Good eh?

[buns]

id love to try it....... but im only at planning stages!

its a bit of a bummer not being able to do wireless and IR together....... i forgot about that to be honest. I suppose you could always try it and slinke, but thats getting complex and expensive..... ah well, on its own it all looks great so im definitely looking at this way forward

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[graham.myers]

an alternative(and more costly) is to go for something like the ipaq 3970 instead of the axim. that has bluthooth built in.

or go up to the next model that has wifi built in.

or...

go for the new palm tunsten which has wifi built in

[Messiah]

....or just buy the forthcoming wi-fi SD card. Don't discount the Axim just because of this. It is very flexible.

[buns]

I wouldnt really want to spend much more....... at the moment i have a pronto which i really dont use because i just keep picking up the regular remotes! Having my equipment in a cupboard also limits my abilities though i have plans for change.

excuse my asking, but what is wifi SD?

[Messiah]

Wi-fi SD card = wireless network (wi-fi) secure digital (SD) card.

A wireless network card using the postage stamp size memory card format.

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=WLAN6060&asource=

[buns]

ah right, so you can connect the IR extender at same time, get ya thanks

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[Ekko Star]

Yes Pocket PC has been the way to go for a little while now. You simply get far more than a remote for a lot less money as well.

I use an IPAQ 3970 and a 3950. They both come with Nevo which in itself is fine. The inbuilt Nevo IR is powerful. The one thing though is the Nevo IR cannot be used in conjunction with any other software. In other words PDAwin will therefore only transmit form the standard IR transmitter in the Ipaq or a CF extender like the one from Laser.

Nevo does fine for day to day needs in all honesty, but if you want to use Pronto CCF's then PDAWIN is the way to go. The use of the CF Sleeve then comes into play for the IPAQ's but to be honest it's quite a good thing. As once the PDA goes into dedicated remote mode ie like my 3950 then the sleeve does gives it extra protection for when your "throwing" it about.

One thing about PDA's though is the screen area is a bit smaller than a Pronto Pro, so those with big fingers may find it a bit more awkward. You can use a pointer but sometimes that can be a pain especially in a darkened HC.:grin:

[dandan4274]

I've got my axim now - prontoedit, now THAT takes some playing around with doesn't it !!

V happy with the axim as a PDA (although it won't be replacing my P800)

My CF-IR should have landed at work today (I was working at home to take delivery of the axim !) - so now just need the redremote thingy for my Telewest box

[dandan4274]

Well, I've got it all plugged in now, but am having trouble getting the telewest box to change channels.

I've d/l'ed a few ccfs from remotecentral, but its really struggling on running macros to enter (for example) channel 102 - it starts to do it, but then fails - I've played around with the delay times, but no joy.

Anyone else got this to work ok ? - If so, I'd love to hear how you got it to work !

cheers
Danny

[dandan4274]

anyone ? purlease ?!!!

the missus is beginning to question why I bought it !!!

[calibos]

dandan,

If thats a cable box then you may need a device called a redeye. Some Pace boxes (not sure about other manufacturers) use a different infrared system (IRDA) which the axim/pronto can't replicate. The red eye is a device that takes the ordinary infrared from the axim/pronto and converts it to IRDA and beams it into the cable box via a little device you stick over the cablebox sensor. Do a search on the forums for redeye.

[dandan4274]

Got the redeye, all plugged in - d/l'ed a pdawin/telewest ccf from remotecentral, but it still only converts the odd signal - esp when trying to change channel - I've tried various delay times in between the digits of the channel (ie '1' delay .2 sec '0' delay .2 sec '1') but it still isn't quite there.

I know I can play and play and play with these settings, but was just hoping some helpful soul had already invented the wheel on this one !

[Messiah]

Do the individual codes work by themself? Do the other macros (for other kit) work? I can't help directly as I don't have a Telewest box but macros on my Axim work perfectly inc delays etc.

If it were me I would relearn the codes from your remote control.

[dandan4274]

Everything else is fine (tv, dvd etc) it's just the redeye/telewest combo

[Messiah]

Have you tried relearning the individual codes from your remote?

[RichardH]

Looks like I'll go this way too. Been looking at the wireless SD stuff, and found this info (http://www.isp-planet.com/fixed_wireless/equipment/2003/compactflash.html) which looks pretty cool - basically a wifi SD card, with memory on it as well - so I'll hold back from buying extra memory, I think.

Must admit that bluetooth has it's attractions, though - but only once I have a bluetooth phone.... IRDA will have to do until then.

Any other bits worth getting at the same time? I'm intending to use this as a PDA as well. Does the USB travel synch cable charge as well, does anyone know?

[dandan4274]

Coming out in July apparently http://www.sandisk.com/consumer/sdwifi.asp

The one with memory as well is slated for Q4

Can't help with the usb charging, I've got the cradle

[RichardH]

I was going to go for the 400 model with cradle anyway, but was wondering whether to get the travel synch thing at the same time. Not sure I'd need to synch when out and about, but charging up's another matter....

[mrv]

Dumb questions maybe but I can't seem to clear this one up in my own mind....

1. With the Axim sat in the USB cradle, is the battery being recharged. Or does the battery need to be removed and put in a seperate charging slot.

2. In any case does the cradle get its power via the USB connection or via a seperate AC adapter - in which case is the AC adapter a seperate purchase.

More dumb questions later..

Mike

[Messiah]

1. Yes. Cradle charges battery whilst in Axim bt it also has a separate slot for a second battery

2. Separate AC adapter. Included in purchase with both models (although docking station only included with 400MHz model).

More dumb answers if required :)

[Kramer]

Originally posted by Messiah
More dumb answers if required :)

Has the postman called yet?


;)

[Messiah]

Yep, but not with what you want. Sent you PM response.

[mrv]

Ordered an Axim today having spent the last few days weighing up all the options, pros and cons. Final conclusion is it looks like no contest, for the price, when compared against a Colour Pronto.

Now I've just got to wait for that postman who's said to be about 5 days away. Still can spend the time creating a nice ccf ready to load and go.

Mike

[KW1816]

Messiah - I think you should have arranged for commision on Axim sales - add another one to the list :grin:

One question though ..

Originally posted by Messiah


The rocker (up/down) switch on the side of the Axim can also be assigned actions. I use mine for volume up and down.

Can you do this in CCF mode ? If so how ?

Cheers

Kevin.

[RichardH]

Watch out for PocketPC2003 being launched on June 23rd - romour is that Dell will offer free upgrades to those who purchased a month prior to that date.

[sticker]

really want of these.............must resist.............must resist :lesson:

Is there any chance that these will have a mobile phone add on?

still must resist

[mrv]

Axim arrived today and is looking good. First problem though and I'm putting this here because it might be more an Axim or PDA-IR issue - so here goes.

I've got NTL Cable with a Pace DI4000 STB. Now over at RemoteCentral there are a number of ccf's for this box - this particular one supposedly works with RC5 codes and IRDA.

I'm getting some success when I use these ccf's. I can get the digit keys and the on/off button working. But I've been unsuccesful in getting the "OK" and Navigation buttons to work (using the codes straight from these ccf's)

Now others with this STB and a Pronto have obviously had success - hence my question - Axim/PDA-IR problem??

Or am I just stupid and missing something obvious. Anybody else had any joy with this combo. I know that the ultimate answer would be installing the red-eye but 'er indoors will complain that it "just don't look neat and tidy".

I shall be posting something similar over at RemoteCentral to see if anybody there has any advice.

Any pointers appreciated.

And whilst we're at it. I can learn codes on the Axim using TVRemote. Is there any way of getting these back to ProntoEdit??

Mike

[Messiah]

Originally posted by mrv
And whilst we're at it. I can learn codes on the Axim using TVRemote. Is there any way of getting these back to ProntoEdit??

Mike

Unfortunately not. If you want to learn codes for CCF buttons you HAVE to use a Pronto and ProntoEdit.

[Kramer]

Originally posted by Messiah
Just got my PDA-IR for the Axim - WOW!!!!!

Well, I have to agree,

WOW :clap:

Lots to play with on this baby - much, much more than a Pronto Pro.

Thanks for everything Neil :smashin:

[Messiah]

A pleasure. Just enjoy :)

[Spanjab]

On the verge of going down this route now but I have a couple of reservations.

First it seems this has trouble with some Pace gear, has anyone tried it with a Pace Sky+ box?

Also programming, will I be able to easily replicate my Sky+, DVD, Panasonic Plasma, Amp etc? Seems the pronto package is uber complicated! :(

[Messiah]

Works absolutely fine with my Pace Sky+ v1 box. No probs at all. ProntoEdit is actually very easy once you get into it. You can always just grab CCFs from RC and do a bit of editing.

Don't think you'll have it set up in 5 minutes but then it will take no longer than setting up a Pronto (as you are creating the same file).

[mrv]

Originally posted by Messiah
Unfortunately not. If you want to learn codes for CCF buttons you HAVE to use a Pronto and ProntoEdit.

Messiah,

As you are now the appointed Axim expert:smashin: :laugh:

When I learn a code on the Axim it must be stored somewhere. Now from what you say it doesn't go into the current CCF but do you have any ideas where the data is retained. After all, if I learn the code, exit the TVRemote app, fire it up again, load a different CCF and then finally re-load the CCF that had the button with the learned code then the learnt code is still there and working. So where's it keep the info if not in the CCF. Any clues?

Mike

[mrv]

Umm.. answer my own question - should have looked here first.

From the pdawin (http://www.pdawin.com) site:

a) How can I create my own skins (with learn command and macros)?

1. You need to download and install ProntoEdit 4.0 from this website:
ProntoEdit software

2. Download manual for ProntoEdit from this website (at the bottom of this page):
ProntoEdit software

3. Create skin (if you want to create B&W skins in ProntoEdit select TSU2000, if color select TSU6000).

4. Copy your skin (CCF file) to PDA (see b, point 3)

5. Learn all commands with PDA from remote control

6. Copy CCF file from PDA back to PC

7. Edit this CCF file with ProntoEdit (make macros, assign hardware button to learned commands...).

8. Finally copy last modify version of CCF file to your PDA

9. Open CCF file in TV remote controller 3.1 (see b, point 6)



In particular of course points 6, 7 and 8. Must try when I get home.

[KW1816]

One or two points for existing Pronto users....

Just to give you a bit of background, I've had my Pronto for about 2 years, during which time it's evolved to a pretty powerfull CCF.

I was looking forward to the next generation Pronto, hoping it would have most the features we all want - you know,little things like a true 5 function pad :grin: that most original remotes have.

I was less than impressed with the NG Pronto when it came out - especially for the price !

So I bought an Axim :smashin:

I've got to say - the screen is great, I'm still using my Pronto while I finish off my new colour CCF and I can't believe how poor the Pronto screen looks now.

There are one or two things that are really iritating me though.

These shouldn't bother most new users as you can build around then, but for anyone who has invested time and effort into a Pronto CCF - don't expect it to work without problems.

The worst problem I've found is that some IR codes simply don't work. My worst offenders are Sony and Marantz codes.

Of course re-learning them isn't a big problem - unless the original remotes don't have a button for them. This is where I'm having a big headache, I have a lot of macros that depend on discrete codes to work.

Time to play with learning them from the pronto I think :)

The other big problem is that the software sends the IR code on button release - rather than button press. This makes repeating buttons impossible (unless you use the hard buttons).

I'm still undecided whether it will ever replace a dedicated remote, the true test is when the wife picks it up and asks where the mute button is, or why hasn't it turned on when she prodded the screen.

:grin:

I've heard that the next release from PDAwin will fix a lot of the issues - looking forward to that, hopefully they'll also include support for the rather tasty large screen Marantz colour remotes.

Cheers

Kevin.

[Messiah]

Originally posted by mrv
Messiah,

As you are now the appointed Axim expert:smashin: :laugh:

When I learn a code on the Axim it must be stored somewhere. Now from what you say it doesn't go into the current CCF but do you have any ideas where the data is retained. After all, if I learn the code, exit the TVRemote app, fire it up again, load a different CCF and then finally re-load the CCF that had the button with the learned code then the learnt code is still there and working. So where's it keep the info if not in the CCF. Any clues?

Mike

Mike

Looks as though with v5.4 you can indeed learn codes against CCF buttons. Follow the standard learning process the open your CCF back up in PE to do any further editing and to save it for safekeeping.

[mrv]

Originally posted by Messiah
You cannot edit a CCF in any way shape or form directly on the Axim - this includes editing buton graphics, layouts, IR learning etc. It just is not possible with the current version of software.



Messiah,

What version of the software are you running (mines 5.4) coz I 've done exactly that last night. Learnt codes against a panel of buttons on my CCF loaded on the Axim, copied it back to the PC and edited it in PE.

Mike

[mrv]

What sort of range are you getting from your PDA-IR. I've seen figures of about 50 feet quoted but mine doesn't seem to do the business if I'm more than about 15 feet away - not in itself a big problem but....

Messiah stated in an very early post that he could point his just about anywhere in the room and still get it to work. Mine seems very directional - if it's not pointed at the units it won't work. And...

I've only had it for two days but I've had about four instances of an error message come up - with the PDA just sat on the table with TVremote running, the screen in idle, tapping the screen back to life reveals a pop-up error message saying something like:

"Gone into sleep mode to prevent damage due to error on PDA-IR" (Must get exact words).

Clicking on OK clears the pop-up and everthing seems to still be working.

Faulty PDA-IR card? Thoughts. Or phone up laser.com anyway and get them to replace?

Mike

[KW1816]

Mine has no problems with range - I guess the 50ft is a bit optomistic but I have macros that fire commands all round the room with no problems.

e.g. If I point it at the TV it also command the Projector which is behind and above me, and the X-10 stuff which is on the opposite side of the room.

I've also had the error you describe, because I'm still in the design stages of my colour CCF I've not been using it fully - I've been loading lots of colour CCF's to try out the 'look and feel' and assumed the errors were caused by this.

I'd be interested in anyone elses feedbck.

Cheers

Kevin.

[Messiah]

Originally posted by mrv
Messiah,

What version of the software are you running (mines 5.4) coz I 've done exactly that last night. Learnt codes against a panel of buttons on my CCF loaded on the Axim, copied it back to the PC and edited it in PE.

Mike

Yep, looks as though you can with 5.4. Excellent stuff.

As to range, I can use mine outside of the room with kit and fire through the door at a 90 degeree angle to the kit and it still works fine. Also, not had any errors whatsoever with any CCF (famous last words :) )

Just a thought, when you ordered your PDA-IR did you specify it was for an Axim as the older stock did not work properly with it and they redesigned it specifically wo work with Axim.

[mrv]

Messiah,

Yeah, specified it was for the Axim. I'm definetly not getting the sort of directional response that you guys are reporting. Looks like a call to laser.com to get a replacement. And the error message that I in the pop-up get is:

"A CF card error has been detected. The system has entered sleep mode to prevent hardware damaged."

And by the way - PDAwin do a free upgrade from V4 and v5 to version 5.4 of TVremote and for $4.95 for v1.x, 2.x and 3.x

Mike

[Messiah]

Definitely sounds like you have a faulty PDA-IR. Never had a message like that and range is awesome.

Thanks, upgraded to 5.4 a few weeks back but not had much chance to play with it hence the learning thing.

[KW1816]

What version of PDA-ir is everyone using with their Axim ?

Mine is v 2.0 and I have had the error Mike describes

Kevin.

[Messiah]

v2.0. You have selected "External IR CF transmitter" have you?

[mrv]

Was just gonna ask that question. Mines v2.0 as well, external IR selected.

Just phoned up laser.com and explained the problem. They are sending out a new one. Will let you know how I get on with it.

Great suggestion from the office. Look at the IR via my Digital Video Camera and see what it looks like when fired. I expect that I should be seeing a good strong spread of IR rather than anything too focused. Anybody else done this and know what I should be getting?

Mike

[mrv]

Just phoned up laser.com and explained the problem. They are sending out a new one.

Well they were sending out a new one but they sent me an e-mail earlier asking me to do a soft reset. I've also removed and re-installed the PDA-IR. Has been working without errors for some hours now so I'll see how it goes.

And it also seems less fussy now about direction, I've even managed to work it when pointing away from the device.

[mrv]

Wot, more questions. Cor blimey.

So if you have sound enabled in TVremote you get an annoying bleep every time an IR command is sent - a pain if you've got a macro (and not very endearing to the female species). If you turn sound off you don't seem to get the beeps coded in the CCF. Or am I missing something?

Mike

[Baggy69]

I had a ipaq 5450 for my birthday last week off my gf and i thought what the hell am i going to do with this. But after reading this thread i thought yes a cool use for it and i have to say that its well cool. It works from about 8 meters out and doesn't need to be pointed directly. What also surprised me aswell is ive read so much about you needing a 'redeye' converter for pace telewest cable boxes, but no it worked straight away. But what i do need now is a website with the silly little channel icons on so i can download them onto it, any ideas?

[Messiah]

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/files/dl.cgi?file=buttons_logos/television/craig-barnes_logos.zip&area=pronto

[Kramer]

http://www.satlogo.com/

:)

[Baggy69]

thats perfect, cheers guys.

[mrv]

Axim guys,

Programming functions on the hard keys...

If I assign actions within the System Properties these do not appear to act globally within the device panels. This is the only place where the hard keys are coded so they are not being overridden by hard key actions in the device properties.

I've read on Remote Central that there may be some sort of problem (with TVRemote??) and that you need to embed the codes onto each panel as the global assignements don't work.

Does this agree with everybody else experience or am I doing something wrong.

Mike

[KW1816]

Agreed :grin: :grin:

I was finding the hard keys stopped working as soon as I switched from one device to another.

It's actually worked out OK - I'm playing with using the D pad as cursor control by reassigning the vol and channel controls for certain devices (e.g. Sky)

Cheers

Kevin.

[Messiah]

Yep, same here. I think it's actually a bonus as gives you more flexible control options. Enjoy :)

[GavinBrowne]

Hi,

Having spent a while reading through this thread a couple of times, I took the plunge and have bought a 6 week old Axim (with gps and tomtom software). I am about to order the cradle and charger from Dell and the ir compact flash card from www.laser.com

I am pretty excited about this as I have had a B+W pronto for about 3 years now and have been trying to justify to myself the upgrade to a colour pronto for my home cinema. This thread convinced me that pocketpc was the way to go. Cheaper and free satnav for the car when I need it!! Amongst the many other things I might find to use it for.

Cheers Messiah, no doubt I'll be back for advice when I go throught the setup once all the stuff arrives.

Gavin.

[Messiah]

I'll be happy to help. And welcome to the club :)

[RichardH]

Think I'm going to go for it too, but am looking at the new HP 2210 - a little more expensive, but bluetooth built in, SDIO SD slot, and slimmer (I'm be using it as a PDA most of the time, so that matters to me).

[graham.myers]

I've plumped for a ipaq 5450 (£418) so I'll see what the ir is like before plunging fir the CF card

[nfordenfield]

Graham the 5450 is SD card unless you buy a CF sleeve, i've jsut been playing with pdawin and it's great, can use all my old CCF from my colour remote now

[Messiah]

Hey nathan. You went for the PDA route in the end then. How do you find it compared to the 9200?

[Messiah]

Graham

Were you aware that the ipaq 54xx is NOT compatible with the CF IR extender card. I hope the IR range built in is good enough.

[graham.myers]

Well comet rang me and they aint got no 5450s :( so I went for a 3970. it arrived yesterday and last night I quickly tested the nevo software

bit naff but the ir distance is fine in the environment I'll be using it in (my hcc room). I could turn up the volume on my amp from about 6ft away which is sufficient for me. Once I've got my ccfs built I'll know if the other kit work fine as well.

messiah why is the cfir not compaitblae - because it hasn't got a cf slot. Dont the sleeves give you a cf slot to plug the ir extender into, or are you saying the sleeves dont fit?

[RichardH]

I think hea meant that you have to buy the sleeve to use CF cards, so out of the box it won't take the CF card.

I've got a iPaq 2210 arriving today (tracking its progress on the DHL site as we speak) - this has SD and CF built in. Hoping I won't need the IR booster (certainly for my HCPC), as I think the IRMan I use to receive commands is more sensitive than the usual receivers on TVs etc.

[Messiah]

No, not to do with the CF slot. If you look at the PDAWin site it states

"note: PDA-ir extender is not compatible with the iPAQ H19xx & H54xx series and non listed PDAs."

[RichardH]

Ahhh... Here's hoping the range on the 2210 is OK then....

[GavinBrowne]

Messiah, or anyone else with a barco projector,

I got my axim a couple of days ago and have so far, successfully built some new CCFs in colour to control my Cimena kit.

By about 01:00 this morning I had a working colour CCF to control my Tivo, Amp, DVD player and lighting, but my Barco would not respond to the Axim commands. The Axim appeared to be learning the codes ok but I can't control the Barco with the Axim.

Just thought I would post here in case anyone else has had the same problem or indeed is perhaps already controlling a Barco with an Axim.

I'll be trying again tonight and if I have any more success, I will keep everyone informed.

Apart from this minor problem, the Axim is great. Definitely the way to go.

cheers,

[Messiah]

Don't have a Barco any more but have you tried learning the codes directly into the Axim. The Axim seems much better at learning the codes 'clean' than the Pronto. Otherwise try Tonto which samples the codes twiuce to ensure they are clean.

[GavinBrowne]

messiah,

Thanks for the quick reply. 'll try that tonight. So far I have clean learnt the barco "power on" into my B+W pronto with success but clean learning it direct into the the axim doesn't seem to work at all.

cheers.

[Messiah]

I remember I had big problems with learning the barco codes from the big Barco remote. I found that pressing the barco remote buttons twice quickly rather than one long press was better. Alternatively, I can send you my old CCF with Barco device (think I still have it) and you could just copy them.

[GavinBrowne]

I just tried a few more attempts and I have the axim now powering the barco up but it seems to be very direction sensitive. In fact compared to my B+W pronto it seems more direction sensitive overall. I'm not sure if this is a symptom of the PDA IR compact flash card or not. I seem to recall that you are able to point your axim pretty much anywhere in the room and it works. i have tried soft rebooting the Axim as I recall reading that elsewhere in this thread but it still seems to be the same. If I don't point the axim pretty much directly at my remote sensor nothing happens.

any further advice is much appreciated.

Cheers.

(edited) just thought I would add that I have tried removing and re-installing the PDA IR card (version 2.0) and soft resetting and I do have the external IR selected. Still not that great directionally.

[Paden]

Interesting thread :smashin:
Is the Voice Record button on the side available for use in a CCF?
I'd want to put a mute function somewhere but not really on the front hard buttons.
I see that the Scroll Dial has a "press to select" would this be practical/available to use?
I'd be upgrading from a B&W Pronto & the Marantz 9200 has always attracted me (other than it's price :eek: ) because of it's D-Pad.
I'd rather not use it for volume/channel control though.

Cheers, Paul

[SimonO]

Can you tell me if anyone solved the problem with the Red-Eye/Telewest box..?

I've got a similar setup (Red-Eye/NTL) and I'm looking to upgrade my B&W Pronto...

I've got a 0.1 sec delay between digits and occasionally lose a digit on three digit channels using the RC6 codes, but on the whole okay...

Still happy with the Axim..? It would be great if someone could put down all the +/- of using the Axim over the ProntoPro in one post... I'm really interested in the Axim, but my CCF is complicated and I want to be sure it will work 100% before I commit to the lower cost option...

[michaeljohng]

Hi there

A question to the veritable resource of pronto users on here!

I have bought an axim after reading through all your posts (thankyou messiah!!) and am most impressed with what i have seen up to now ann have almost got my first colour ccf in action.

My question is, how do i even start to create the multiple control calls used to, for example, "play dvd"
i know what calls i want to use but how do i get learned commands to be re-used by the software??

am i just being thick?? (i have looked through the pronto edit help and as per usual in a help file its basically about as much use as a chocolate tea caddy!!)

please can someone give me some pointers or point me in the right direction to look!!

thanks in advance guys

Mick

[Messiah]

Mick

You simply use the Alias function. Ensure you have all the regular buttons set up correctly and then if you want a button to send a macro (collection of individual commands) just add all the necessary aliases to the new button. I would suggest you place a delay between each alias just to ensure they don't confuse your kit.

It really is very very simple. Just add as many aliases as you require.

[michaeljohng]

Thanks Messiah - After a bit of messing arounbd with the red eye (why did ntl have to be awkward!!) i am getting close to my first colour ccf - and its all thhanks to you guys that imusing the axim!

chuffed to bits is an understatement - but for some inexplicable reason the other half doesnt seem so chuffed! lol

thanks again for all the help and pointers guys!

[The Beekeeper]

WiFi SD card should be out this month.

Currys now have the rather nice Toshiba E740 bluetooth for £250!

No WiFi but see above and not 2003 PC but this must be really good value. It has CF and SD sockets like the Axim.

Fance that IR keyboard as well but don't tell anyone I go to Currys! :blush:

[GavinBrowne]

Hi again,

Just thought i would post an update on my progress with the Axim. I was having a problem with the strength of signal but it turns out that it was not the Axim and PDA IR, but the Keene receiver and remote extender i have been using. My amp and DVD are in a cupboard off my Cinema. After reading one of the other threads i decided to try the Xantech remote extender and hey presto!, it is much more powerful at receiving commands. Now I am very happy to say that the Dell is controlling my kit very nicely pretty much wherever I point it in the room (within reason).

It makes the whole set up much more user friendly as you can hold the axim and see what you are pressing and the IR codes are still picked up by the Xantech receiver.

Before with the Keene setup you had to point the Axim directly at the receiver which of course meant that you couldn't really see which button you were pressing very easily.

I was on the verge of buying a colour pronto to see if it was more powerful as it never crossed my mind that improving the receiver might help.

Not any more. The Dell is first rate as far as I am concerned, (and it doubles as a satelite navigation system in the car when I need it).

Again, thanks to Messiah for starting this thread. I would not have gone down this route if i hadn't stumbled on the thread. Even with the GPS stuff i have bought for the Axim I am still about £200 better of than if i had bought a Pronto Pro. (and a Pronto pro can't give you voice directions to anywhere in the UK !!)

Cheers,

[michaeljohng]

messiah - another question for you if i can???

i now have all the aliases and hard keys configured but there is one shortcut that im missing - the scroll key on the left hand side - you mentioned in an earlier post that you had it configured to do vol up /vol down

can you please let me know how you managed to configure the key??? i just cant seem to get it to be recognised

thanks again for an excellent forum guys

[GavinBrowne]

Michaeljohng,

As far as I am aware you need to assign your volume up and down control codes to the hard keys in pronto edit.

That is, double click the properties of each device in your CCF and click on the hard keys tab at the top of the screen. Then with the small hard key that corresponds to the volume up on a prontopro selected, (the small one on the right of the prontopro) click on alias and select the learned IR code in your CCF that corresponds to your volume up code. Then do the same for the Volume down hard key on a prontopro. Once you have done this the the scroll key on the Axim should work for your volume up and down.

Your cursor pad should also now control your volume.

I hope that made sense?

cheers,

[lscolman]

After using a Philips Pronto for over two years, I started using an IPAQ 3970 with Flash Jacket and PDA-IR. I have developed profiles for Sky Digibox, Denon A1 Amp, Denon 2800 DVD Panasonic Plasma, and OnDigital. If you see me a PM, I would be happy to send you a copy via e-mail.

I use the record hard button on my IPAQ to re-run the Remote Controller 5.4 software, as my IPAQ reverts back to the startup screen when not used for a few hours.

Also, has anyone with a similar setup experienced the IPAQ locking up, and the IR light remaining lit. The only way around this is to perform a soft reset.

For these two reasons, I am contemplating moving to a Dell Axim or Toshiba e740. Do these pocket PC's operate the same way?

[lscolman]

Just noticed that www.pdawin.com have an update to the TV remote controller software. Now at version 5.5. I'll check it out tonight.

[Huggy]

Just a few words about the Nevo and the Ipaq 2215/10.

I bought the Ipaq as a PDA, and for the remote function, expecting it to be naff - not a chance.

Excellent functionality, and no more 5' range problem. It works fine at 12' in my room, though you still point directly at the targets.

You do have to mess about a bit setting it up, I found getting the codes from the current remotes the easiest and most reliable way of getting things just right.

Check out this blury photo of one of my DVD pages. Here I can switch the AV and TV settings, as well as control the volume for both Amp and TV. Lovely.

I got it for $400 while in the States. So as a dedicated remote it's a stupid idea. But if you are in the market for a PDA, you can kiss you All in 1 goodbye!

[SimonO]

Could one of you helpful people please confirm that I will be able to use the equivalent of the two bottom left/right hard buttons (Pronto RU940) on the Axim..?

And if so which buttons on the Axim...

Many thanks...

[Messiah]

Yes you can. The standard Pronto buttons are mapped as follows

Axim button: Pronto equivalent

joypad up: + volume.
joypad down: - volume.
joypad left: - prog. ch
joypad right: + prog. ch
joypad middle: mute
another 4 keys are place as they are in ProntoProEdit.

[SimonO]

Thanks Messiah... I think I'm sold..!

[Paden]

Originally posted by Messiah
Yes you can. The standard Pronto buttons are mapped as follows

Axim button: Pronto equivalent

joypad up: + volume.
joypad down: - volume.
joypad left: - prog. ch
joypad right: + prog. ch
joypad middle: mute
another 4 keys are place as they are in ProntoProEdit.

Messiah, you said earlier in the thread that The rocker (up/down) switch on the side of the Axim can also be assigned actions. I use mine for volume up and down.
How is this shown in Pronto Edit if all the hard button are automatically mapped as you say above?

Cheers, Paul

[Messiah]

In the current version of TV Remote the rocker button simply mirrors the joypad up and down buttons. Hopefully in later versions they will enable you to give them separate functions. However, as the RU940 does not have these extra buttons I can only see this being possible if they switch to using the ProntoNG CCFs (PCFs) which I think unlikely.

[Paden]

Thanks for the reply Messiah

So you can't use the D-Pad as a D-Pad & control the volume with the scroll buttons on the side at the same time?

Cheers, Paul

[Messiah]

That's correct. Remember that TV Remote supports ProntoProEdit (RU890/940 devices) which itself / themselves does not have a joypad hence no support for it.

[The Beekeeper]

delays on the CF IR card at the moment

[mikeall]

thanks to Messiah i have ordered a Axim and will be useing on my plasma, dvd, sky, vhs lights ect!!

and i nearly bought a pronto!

god im i glad i read this forum :clap:


thanks for your input Messiah, :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

mine is in the post, should be here by friday!

mike

[Messiah]

Excellent. Welcome to the club. A great piece of kit that I'm sure you will be delighted with :)

[Paden]

Originally posted by Messiah
That's correct. Remember that TV Remote supports ProntoProEdit (RU890/940 devices) which itself / themselves does not have a joypad hence no support for it.

That's a shame :(
I'll have to wait until they come out with an emulator for the Marantz 9200.
Thanks for the advise.

Cheers, Paul

[dandan4274]

Getting back to the update to 5.5 of tvremote - they website says it's a free upgrade if you have the previous version. How do you get it ??

I emailed them about a week ago, but they haven't responded...

[Messiah]

Simply download the trial version and install. It will take your existing registration info and upgrade your existing (qualifying) version.

[fufna]

Can I just clarify?..

You are unable to use the directional pad on the Axim like I use the Directional pad on my RC5200?

If so, what are you supposed to do for a hardware D pad?

[Messiah]

It's really quite simple. The TV Remote Controller software supports CCFs created for the RU890 and RU940 remotes using ProntoProEdit.

PPE does not support a joypad and therefore neither does TV Remote Controller in the current version. The PPC joypad is used to replicate the hard buttons (Vol+, Vol -, Ch+, Ch-) down the right hand side of the RU890/940.

[robocop]

Just ordered my Dell Axim 400 and a PDA-IR extender.
How long did your Dell take to arrive as a matter of interest?
I'm looking forward to programming it already. It's a darn site cheaper than buying a Pronto Pro, which I was thinking of.
A good thread this Messiah.

[fufna]

I'll stick with the functionality of a hard D pad for now then.
If they implement the use of the Directional pad in future updates they might just sway the users of the Marantz series (a FAR superior remote to the Pronto for obvious reasons)

[Messiah]

fufna

Agree. Would be great if they support the Marantz series in future upgrades but even without it the Axim (and similar devices) is a killer colour remote :)

[mikeall]

well i ordered my Axim 4oo last saturday 9th aug and it came today!!! 15th aug :clap:

i'm waiting for it to charge up and when i get back from work at 4.30 i will be working on how to work it!!

a matter of interest, do i copy the tv software on to Axim then install it or install it from my pc?

cheers
mike

[Messiah]

Install from PC like most PPC software. Will then install to Axim on next AS connection if not already connected.

[mikeall]

now thats what i call a quick reply!!

cheers for that, now that i know that i can install the tv stuff when i get home, im off to milk the cows now!

mike

[robocop]

Messiah

While I'm waiting for my Axim to arrive, if I start designing a CCF for a ProntoPro in Prontedit, can I transfer it across later to my Axim?

Cheers

[Messiah]

Yes, that's exactly how it's done.

[The Beekeeper]

is it time to make this a sticky?

[mikeall]

well im getting to gribs with my new toy but where is the help for tv remote?
i made a few test thing-es vcr and tv ect but now want to delete them and make some new ones, now that i have sussed how to make it

cheers
mike

[Messiah]

There's no need for any help really with TV Remote as you are using ProntoPro Edit to create the CCfs. TVRemote is just acting as the display mechanism.

If you post your problems I'll see if I can help.

[SimonO]

Any idea how to get RF support for the PPC..? This was one of the features of the Pronto Pro that interested me..?

[Messiah]

Not possible I'm afraid. You'll have to get a PP or Marantz 9200 for that. You could try going wireless with slinke or similar though instead. Lotta work though.

[moviemonster]

Hi all new to this forum . I've been looking at your posts regarding the axim and I must confess I'm on the edge of buying this . Have been looking at getting a pronto b&w this week but since I saw this It's been scrapped . I know it's more money but the capability's look 4 times as good for less than double the price .
New to pocket pc but I would like to ask what may seem some stupid questions . but here goes .

I don't have broadband . So can I access the internet on the axim with normal 56k modem via the wireless adapter .

Will it be ok to download pdawin software etc . with 56k modem .
and if so how long would it take .

Does the axim come with usb pc connection lead .

Do I need a sd card to store downloads or is the built in memory sufficent .

Any help would be great . thanks

[ISHANTY]

i haven't got a credit card how can i get the softwear is there anywhere in the uk i can oder it

[mikeall]

well thanks to messiah i now have my Axim and love it!!
getting to gribs with it now but..
i im trying to make my own skin/ccf in pronoedit4 and have no luck :confused:
i saved one and loaded it onto the axim and it does not show up on it but others that i put on that other people made do

any tips anyone?

i just downloaded the manual and see if i understand it!!

when it asks at the new configaration on opening, what do i choose?

cheers

mike

[robocop]

mikeall
It might be easier for you to select "Open Configuation" in the samples folder select ph1 RU970 default.
This as the name suggests is the default CCF. From here you can add/delete/modify stuff until you've gained a bit of confidence.

[lscolman]

Mikeall,

You may be having the probem, I had many eons ago, when I started using prontoedit. If you do not assign a function to the button, ie. a delay, or alias, the button does not display on the pronto.

Give this a try, and if it still doesn't work, send me a PM.

Cheers, Lee

[Messiah]

I don't have broadband . So can I access the internet on the axim with normal 56k modem via the wireless adapter .

Any Internet connection will be fine. You will have to have your network set up either with a gateway or with Windows ICS configured.


Will it be ok to download pdawin software etc . with 56k modem . and if so how long would it take .

Yes. It's only about 1/2MB so should only take about a minute.


Does the axim come with usb pc connection lead .

Yes.


Do I need a sd card to store downloads or is the built in memory sufficent .

Even a large CCF is only about 1MB max so internal memory will be more than sufficient.

HTH.

[mikeall]

Thanks lscolman and robocop!
that was a great help, i just tested it and now i think i know how to get somewhere. i got to other questions

can the samples be made into colour to work on the axim?
and when i put the sample on the axim i can see it and learn it but when i go out of tvremote and back again i cannot find it unless im in the ccf mode, i always get the tvremote standard screen, i want to open tvremote and show the home screen of the sample one in prontoedit that i just installed

cheers for your help guys
mike

[lscolman]

Mikeall,

When using Prontoedit, you should always be using it in RU970 mode. This is the colour pronto, and will support both colour and black and white images. You can't convert your images from black and white to colour. The best way to create a colour setup is to nab other peoples setups from remotecentral.com. I developed my current setup from several other peoples setups, and find it works a treat.

Not sure why it is reverting back to standard screen. Are you using version 5.4? Are you saving the file to the MY DOCUMENTS folder on your Pocket PC. I have a Compaq IPAQ, so this may be different on the AXIM.

If you would like a copy of my current colour pronto configuration, I can send you it via e-mail. It would give you a good starting point. It has screens for Sky Digibox, Freeview boxes, Denon Amps and DVD's, Pioneer Laserdisc, iscan Ultra, and Panasonic Plasma screen.

Also, do you have broadband connection. If so, I could help you setup your screens, with Windows Messenger. It saves using the forum, and I can sort out any problems via quick texts. If you would like to do this, send meyour e-mail address, and we can sort it out.

Cheers, Lee

[robocop]

My Axim arrived on Yesterday. Glad it's a Bank Holiday, as it gives me a more time to play.
All I need now is the CF PDA-IR extender from Laser, but these appear out of stock. Has anyone enquired how long these are going to be before they are available again?

[robocop]

Laser.com web site now says basically they have no idea when the PDA-IR Extender will be instock :-(
Has anyone got any idea where else to try?
I can't imagine anyone selling one on this forum so soon !

[mikeall]

hi mate

i got mine here 2 weeks ago and it came in 3 days

http://www.simplyautomate.com/productDisplay.asp?prodId=3584

i havea Axim 400

cheers
mike

[moviemonster]

Anybody buying the axim to use as a remote control . Then forget it . There is no other pda - ir extender out there to work with pdawin which is deemed the best software to use . I,ve looked at all the suppliers and each one has no stock and no idea if they are going to get any. This is because the sole manufacturer is having massive problems producing them . I,ve even searched ebay high and low and not one mention of anyone selling the extender . So there you have it . Anyone out there like me at the minute completly in limbo having set my heart on having this .
I can't go backwards now and get a pronto as they now look dated and I can't justify paying the high price for the colour pronto or another pocket pc just to use as a remote . So overall I,m going to have to wait and see what developes .

[mikeall]

I bought my Axim for sole use as a remote and it took a week to come, i use pda-ir which took 3 days to come and works well, it states on the packet that it works with the Dell Axim and it does, i had to change the settings on the pdawin tvremote software to use output external ir cf transmitter and im happy with it all, i use it also to dim and switch the lights on!

cheers
mike

[moviemonster]

Phoned simplyautomate last week they have none in stock and no idea when they going to get any.

[mikeall]

o.i.c
i must have been lucky then! i placed my order on the 14th aug and got it quicky and like i say, it works well!

there was another place i found and it was dearer i will see if i can find it

cheers
mike

[moviemonster]

Thanks for the help mike .

[Messiah]

Guys

I have not used my Axim for at least 6 weeks now. Probably due to no time to finish off the CCFs. Too easy with an old b&w Pronto ready configured.

I would be prepared to sell my complete set up which is the Axim 400 with PDA-IR card and Symbol wireless CF card. Not if I'm gonna lose loads but if I thought I could get £350 all in (saving about £60 on what I paid) then I'd sell. If anyone is interested post your views and I'll place in the classifieds.

Shame really considering I was one of the forerunners but I've got loads of other things occupying my time at the moment (including a knackered HTPC - just doesn't want to play ball) so it's just gathering dust at the moment. All is as new.

[robocop]

Quess you don't want to sell me the PDA-IR CF card on it's own then? :-)

[moviemonster]

Messiah . Is the axim in immaculate condition with no screen scratches or defects at all . If so I will offer you £300 posted for the axim and the remote ir . DON'T want the wireless card but looking at what they cost you could easy sell it on ebay and get your £50 plus . This is a good offer considering that it would cost less to buy both items from new with guarantees .

[Messiah]

Hi Moviemonster

Yep, Axim is absolutely as new with no marks, scratches or defects whatsoever. If I can sell the CF card then I'll accept your offer and place in the classifieds to do it as per forum rules.

Grateful if you can give me 24 hours to see how easy it might be to move it on. Hope it will be as they sell for around £112 new (don't know why the Symbol ones are this price but they are - quality I guess).

In fact maybe I'll just put them as two separate items in my existing FS thread with the sale of the Axim dependent upon the CF card going. How's that?

[Messiah]

Added to FS thread.

[lscolman]

Messiah,
I would be interested in the CF Card. Can you confirm how much you would like and the make and model number.

Cheers, Lee

[Messiah]

Sorry Lee. If you check the FS thread you will see it has all sold as a package.

[robocop]

Is it possible that this http://www.ultramote.com/extender.php
might work?
I know it's for use with their software, but is then any reason it couldn't take the place of the very rare PDA-IR card by EDV.

[Messiah]

No idea, guess it depends on how they have coded their software but would assume that considering it is the Axim internal signals that it picks up and redistributes that it may indeed work. They of course give warnings as they would want you to buy their software (of course) but only one way to be sure......

[robocop]

Yeah, wait for the EDV version.
Should be here for Xmas (hopefully) :grin:

[Messiah]

No, I meant for £20 it's got to be worth a shot. Won't exactly break the bank. If it were me I'd get one and then if it does work you do a favour for all those others waiting for the EDV version.

I certainly would not wait.

[robocop]

I was joking.
But in the meantime I found this on a German website.
Not my translation, so here goes:

"He who really wanted to operate remotely its TV-, video and other devices with the Pocket PC to be sure, was disappointed however based on the lacking range of the IR unit of the Pocket PC. More than two until meter are not in most felling inside. With the Extender CF-Card, that is now no more problem. In tests became even diagonal through two rooms (ca. 10 meters) yet best results obtains. Although the manufacturer maintains, that the Extender runs only with the characteristic software, he successfully was used also already with TV Remote of pda wine. The advantage of TV Remote is among other things that the software can use also the layouts of the well known Pronto distance tax system."

Anyway, I'm going to order one and try it out.

[Messiah]

Great. Sounds like it will work just fine. Keep us posted.

[robocop]

Just downloading their software at present. You have to, so you can purchase the Extender.
Cost £25.57 inc shipping.
If it does work, will be cheaper(and quicker) than the EDV version.
Hopefully they deliver in days/hours and not lunar cycles :grin:

[KW1816]

If anyones interested in an Axim with PDA-IR I've just put mine up in the classifieds.

Funds required :(

Cheers

Kevin.

[robocop]

Just had a email back, explaining that I have to buy the software in order to buy the extender.
It's now cost me £28.97, so it still works out cheaper (providing it works of couse), than EDV.

[Kramer]

So why are these CF IR cards sooooo hard to acquire now?

TBH I've not used mine for ages - must get around to some .ccf building over the weekend.

[Messiah]

Kramer

I remember reading when I bought mine that they are manufactured by a guy who's main job is a lawyer or similar and he runs EDV in his spare time. I also know he was having a bit of hassle from one or more US customers and it was stated that he may just decide to drop doing it. Also, when he had to get new parts for the Axim version he had problems with suppliers (or similar) so maybe this is all contributing to it.

CCF building. I got mine 90% complete but just never could find the time to finish it hence why I sold mine :(

[mrv]

Originally posted by Messiah
CCF building. I got mine 90% complete but just never could find the time to finish it hence why I sold mine :(

Aah CCF building - one of the curses of the home theatre. At least I don't feel too bad seeing that others have also reached the magical 90% complete mark and then put it down.

I'm reasonably happy with mine except it's not quite good enough to let loose on the wife - I can hear the comments now - "so what the hell am I supposed to do now" when one of the special in-built bugs surfaces (go find the dedicated remote luv!!).

Mike

[lscolman]

mrv,
I have that same battle. My CCF is complete, but it's never really complete, if you know what I mean. I'm constantly changing it, and getting ear ache off the missus.

Cheers, Lee

[calibos]

So does it work Robocop??

I'm itchin' to get an axim and only held off because of the uncertainty with EDV.

[Kramer]

Originally posted by calibos
I'm itchin' to get an axim

Yep, they're cool alright - want to buy mine? :grin:

Love the thing but don't think I'm ever going to get time to do a proper ccf.

Then again, I'd miss it :p

[calibos]

Hold on a minute lads. You're really starting to worry me. You're like the markets traders with insider info who are off loading stock before the big crash. Whats going on here?? Why does everyone seem to be selling their axims? New gorgeous hi spec low price ipaq's coming on the market soon or something. Axims and ccf's not as easy to program as we were led to believe??

Something smells fishy!! :grin::grin::grin:

How much Kramer m8?? :grin::grin:

[Messiah]

Nothing fishy with me m8. If you knew how quickly I spend money and turn over kit you'd see it's just normal for me. Never keep anything much longer than 6 months. Onwards and upwards - though in the case of the Axim it was onwards and backwards as I have reverted yto my trust b&w Pronto.

[robocop]

Well the CF extender arrived at work this morning.
I will try it out when I get home tonight and report back.

[PhilAllaway]

What was the delivery time on the PDA-IR extender ?
Got the Axim and downloading the remote software next stop ccf programing !!

[robocop]

It took 5 days from the U.S.
However,it's not the PDA-IR Extender that arrived, but one from Ultramote.
I don't know if it works or not as I'm going to be a guinea pig.
I've ordered the PDA-IR Extender as well, but at present no-one has a clue when these will be made available, as they are made but someone in the U.S. in their spare time.

[Kramer]

I'm in the same boat as Messiah - always trading up, re-arranging gear etc...

Nothing more to it than that ;)

Love the Axim but honestly don't really use it enough to justify keeping it - I think :)

[robocop]

They are useful though, as I am using my Axim to reply to this thread!!

[Kramer]

One of the things that peeves me is I have the CF wirless card, an uber Netgear wireless gateway etc. all working sweetly.

No bloomin DSL though :(

I did initially set it up so I could use the Axim for messenger etc. & 'twas quite nice but in the absence of BB, not utilising that aspect of the Axim.

Ah well, looking forward to BB. Should be able to surf wirelessly sometime in 2007!!!!!

:grin:

[robocop]

Well the Ultramote Extender does work :grin:
A problem that existed before (and still does) is that PDAwin wont allow me to make 2 key pushes of the same button. e.g Go forward one chapter on DVD and then try to go forward another, and it doesn't want to know.
Is there something I should be doing?

[The Beekeeper]

my CF card from the UK still hasn't come :(

[PhilAllaway]

Kevin ... It states that the ultramote extender should only be used with the ultramote software. Have u had any problems with PDAwin (apart from the one u state, which sounds like a common feature not related to the extender) ? Or are they just saying that to force you to but the software ?

[robocop]

It works fine,is cheaper and more importantly is readily available.

[PhilAllaway]

Should have looked more closely to the offers at ultramote.com as the software and extender combo is on offer for 23.85 pls shipping which isn't that much difference than buying the extender on its own. So I'll have a bash at both PDAwin and the ultramote software see which ones better !

Thanks for the heads up on this !!!!

[robocop]

It cost me £28.97 inc shipping. As I said earlier it works fine despite what Ultramote say about it not working. You do have to purchase their software to be able to buy the Extender. This at present is only about £4, so it's a bargain at the moment. However, with the supply problem of the CF-IR card from EDV, they may find their sales increase and put up the prices accordingly.
"Book early" as Fred Pontin used to say, as I can see the price going up.

[The Beekeeper]

[quote]
I apologise for the delay in processing your PDA-ir order.

Unfortunately, we have had an unconfirmed report that the U.S. company EDV, which produces the PDA-ir, is no longer trading. Although their website still appears active, we have been unable to contact them for some time now.

We are in the process of negotiating with the product designer with a view to taking over the manufacturing of the PDA-ir units ourselves. We currently have all the necessary design and technical information for manufacturing but this will take some time to organise. It is estimated to take a further
one to two months to commence production of the unit.

When the PDA-ir is available, all outstanding orders for the unit will be fulfilled with free delivery and a 15% discount. Payment will only be processed when the PDA-ir is ready for dispatch. However, you may wish to cancel the order at any time if the delay is unacceptable.

We apologise once again for the long delay and thank you for your patience and understanding.

Regards,
Marie Li
Laser Business Systems Ltd
+44 (0)20 8441 9788
email: marie@laser.com
[QUOTE]

Comments?

[Sandman]

Looks like ultraremote are going to sell a lot of software and ir extender packages in the next few months!!!

[Clint C]

Can anyone advise on the best place to buy the UltraMote Extender? :grin:

[robocop]

From here http://store3.esellerate.net/store/Layout9/Catalog.asp?StoreIDC=STR258619500&pc=&AffIDC=&CategoryID=&CurPage=&SKUIDC=

You need to select the one on the bottom right (software and extender). Cost me £28.97 inc shipping, and it arrived in about 5 days.

You will need to download the trial software first, like it says, as you are asked the for serial number when you place your order.

[calibos]

I just noticed beekeepers thread about laser having the IR CF card back in stock and it got me thinking about an Axim again. So how are all the axim/pdawin users getting on these days? Is everyone still chuffed to bits with the functionality and pose factor of their axims or are you all ****** off with your half finished CCF's and now your poor axims are gathering dust down the arm of your couch??

Oh and if I do get one should I get the cradle? It looks cool but is it a battery charger and/or just a sync thingie?

[mrv]

Originally posted by calibos
Is everyone still chuffed to bits with the functionality and pose factor of their axims or are you all ****** off with your half finished CCF's and now your poor axims are gathering dust down the arm of your couch??

Gathering dust I'm afraid at the moment. But this is not just an Axim related problem - just not got enough time to make the CCF completely wife friendly. Too many other things on the go at the moment. Hope to get back to it sometime.

Originally posted by calibos Oh and if I do get one should I get the cradle? It looks cool but is it a battery charger and/or just a sync thingie?

It looks cool, charges the battery and syncs.

Mike.

[GavinBrowne]

Hi,

I am now using my Axim as a fully functioning colour remote for my Home cinema setup and I'm delighted with it. It controls my DVD player, Amp, Lights, Iscan Ultra, and Tivo.

I also keep an up to date excel file of my DVD collection on it which is handy as I am now up to 640 films and growing every week.

I also use it in the car for Sat Nav as well, making it a very cool toy to have. We travelled 280 miles last week from Edinburgh to Alton towers and it gave us voice guidance every step of the way flawlessly, warning me when I approached gatso speed cameras.

I have never regretted buying it.

Cheers,

[calibos]

Cheers Mike and Gavin. Im gonna wait a bit and see how the new axim x3 gets rated by the remote fraternity. Its got a more powerful IR transmitter and if this works with PDAwin then we wont need the Laser IR CF card after all.

It looks like one of those toshiba pda's. A lot of people slagged off the axim for not being as stylish as its competitors. Its a bit of a paradox but now that it looks like a more stylish, thinner, lighter PDA..............it looks less like a remote should look than the Axim x5!! :grin: I actually think I prefer the look of the original Axim! So I'll have to decide if I want to trade a built in consumer gade IR and a 50 quid saving for a heavier, bulkier, more expensive (having to by CF card) Axim x5.......cause it looks more like a remote!

[calibos]

A guy posted over at remote central that pdawin is working on his Axim x3 and the range is 20+ feet (as far away as he could get in his apartment so range could be even higher)

Decisions, Decisions!! :grin:

[Kramer]

Originally posted by calibos
Axim x5.......looks more like a remote!

:p :p

:grin:

[Techno Freak]

Hi Guys,

I am very interested in getting a new Axim X3 for use as a remote control.

Can I ask a couple of questions of you guys that are using PDA's as remotes?

Can you shut off the PDA whilst the remote software is active, then switch it on at the same point? or do you have to 'Shut Down' the PDA when you have finished, the restart it and launch the software each time you use it?

I would hope that it can be perpetually left on in remote mode and it just sleeps when not in use.

Is there any delay between pressing a button and the command bieng executed?

Is it really a viable alternative to proper remotes or just a gimmick that will be too much of an annoyance to use once the initiall novelty factor has worn off?

Thanks guys.

[MarkR]

Deciding to go for an Axim X3, just need a little guidance into choosing the right one.
Here is a link showing different X3 models, which one would be the best one to go for.

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/axim_x3?c=uk&l=en&s=bsd

I am however still swaying towards a X5, hmmmm which one?????

Help on this matter will be much appreciated..:)

[Techno Freak]

Go for the most expensive one!!!

Seriously though, I think the middle one is the same as the cheap one - but a faster processor? You need some of the guys on the forum that use the slower X5's to comment on how it affects remote performance.

The expensive one is the same as the middle one but built in Wi-Fi. Probably only an option if you have, are going to get or visit 'Wi-Fi Hotspots' with it.

If you don't intend to set up a home wi-fi network then go for the middle one I think.

If you have broadband at home - get the expensive one and upgrade to a wi-fi net. However, it's probably pointless setting up a wi-fi network if you only have one computer connected to your modem and it's not a laptop.

I set up wi-fi because I use a laptop for my home-computing. It's great because I can surf the net from anywhere in the house or garden. I will be getting the top spec Axim so that I can surf during the boring films.

Hope this helps.

Whichever you decide, please post some comments. I am busting to buy one of these things but nobody has posted a good pros and cons yet on using one as a remote.

[MarkR]

Cheers for that, think I will hold on a bit longer to see what other comments come in before I take the leap.

[Clint C]

Somewhere way way back in this thread, Messiah gave a breakdown of the cost of his X5.

"400MHz Axim bought for £249
PDA-IR extender bought for £25 (www.laser.com)
TVRemote software for $14.95 (www.pdawin.com)

So all for around £285."

I recently bought a brand new X5 basic version for £127 add that to the price for the extender and software and we're talking around the £170 ish mark for a colour remote. Not a bad price in my estimation. I'm waiting for the extender to arrive but have already downloaded the software. I went to remotecentral and dragged in a good looking CCF file and can easily "learn" the commands in utilising the downloaded CCF. It works fine as long as you point the PDA's ir directly at the unit your trying to control and are within 2 foot. This is great for starting my programming in while I wait for the arrival of the IR extender.

Please bear in mind though that to get the CCF exactly as you want it may take up a lot of your time.

The "power" of these Dell's is irrelevant for remote control use.

By the way I got the X5 from Dell's internet outlet. Just kept an eye on the site until a suitably priced one came along and grabbed it.

Good luck
Clint

[MarkR]

Thanks for the help there, I did read messiahs comments but as it was written a while ago I thought I would test to see if there were any updates.
BTW on your Axim, how do you connect your Axim to your PC, is it USB or Serial?? Reason I ask this is because I have a new Laptop and it does not have a Serial port. I know I can get a Serial to USB convertor but it is not really practical. I currently have a Pronto and it is a right pain not having a Serial port.
Thanks in advance!!

Mark R :)

[Clint C]

Mark R

As the Axim I have is the "basic" model it just comes with a USB sync cable and needless to say that's how any info between pc and Axim is transferred. A USB cradle model would be a "nice to have" but by no means is it necessary.

Clint

[MarkR]

Thanks Clint, will let you know which one I go for.

Hopefully it will be before Christmas.......Wonder if I can justify buying it for the other half as a Christams present??:god::grin:

[Techno Freak]

I thought of that one too......( buying it for the other half ) - I can imagine how that would go down on Christmas morning when she unwraps it!

[Taz69]

Hi chaps, I have a O2 XDA II, is it possible to use this for the remote etc like you have used pda's, I have PC2003 on the xda, any advice or tips welcome,

Thanks

Taz69 :thumbsup:

[Messiah]

Hi chaps, I have a O2 XDA II, is it possible to use this for the remote etc like you have used pda's, I have PC2003 on the xda, any advice or tips welcome,

Thanks

Taz69 :thumbsup:
One way to fiond out. Download TVRemote and try it :grin:

[Taz69]

One way to fiond out. Download TVRemote and try it :grin:


Hi m8, I have put the software on, it starts, etc, I downloaded a ccf file for my panasonic tv, no commands sent to tv, cant even get it to learn commands from my remote, I get a timeout error on my xda, beams are on etc, on the xda,

advice welcome

ta
taz69

[Messiah]

I used it on my old XDA (version 1) many months ago before I got the Axim and it worked fine, just range was appalling. Does the pdawin site say it supports PPC2003?

[edit] Just looked at the pdawin site and it says (in big bold red letters) that the XDA2 is not supported so far. I guess there's your answer :grin:

[Taz69]

I used it on my old XDA (version 1) many months ago before I got the Axim and it worked fine, just range was appalling. Does the pdawin site say it supports PPC2003?

[edit] Just looked at the pdawin site and it says (in big bold red letters) that the XDA2 is not supported so far. I guess there's your answer :grin:


lol, didnt see the writing, cheers anyway m8,

must be down to the IR, as the software works on it,

Taz69

[nickwall]

Graham

The ipaq is a great device but the problem with using it for a remote is it does not have a CF slot for the PDA-IR extender. You therefore either have to use a CF sleeve (Yuk) or put up with the opuny range and directionality of the standard emitter (thus rendering it almost useless in a normal HC setup).

Check out the Axim. It's half the price, has battery backup for those moments when the main battery dies down and has both a CF and SD slot giving pretty good expandability.

Be honest, are you really going to use Bluetooth :), Wi-Fi yes but Bluetooth????

Doesn't that Ipaq have Consumer IR and built in remote software rather than IRda? So the range is much better than a normal PDA and perfectly usable for HC.

EDIT: Wow, didn't see this was 14 pages long or look at the dates... I'll get my coat..... :blush:

[Taz69]

does anyone know of any remote software for the xda II please, thanks in advance

Taz

[spikeyboy3]

First off thanks for bringing this thread back to the surface - may never have seen it otherwise :)

Was going to get a Marantz RC5400 - but now im thinking otherwise, has anything changed since this thread was started way back when ? i looked at dells web site and they have 3 PDA's available with the axim the cheapest at £220 do the other PDA's work as well ? and what is this PC2003 that has been mentioned a few times in this thread.