should I have iLife?

[richard plumb]

bought an ibook G4 off ebay for my sister. just going through it to make sure everything is ok.

I don't seem to have some of the iLife apps - it came with a fresh install of Leopard. I have iTunes but thats it - no iphoto or imovie. I don't think she particularly needs imovie, but she may want iphoto.

is that something that normally comes with leopard? I've only ever upgraded using the leopard discs so I think it was using the existing ilife apps on my imac. Can you download them separately?



BTW, anything particular I should check out that I might have forgotten?

[Lucas44]

when OS X is reinstalled using the discs supplied with a mac, ilife is installed as standard. if a leopard disc was used, then ilife wouldn't be installed at all. itunes comes as part of leopard but what's missing is:

iphoto, imovie, idvd, iweb and garage band. i photo is a really handy app and probably the most commonly used of ilife. the only way to get it would be to buy the ilife 08 software which i think costs about £55.

hope this helps!

[Tenex]

The G4 won't have shipped with Leopard so this install must be from a fresh retail copy and that doesn't include iLife.

[bighfishing]

it will have been from the retail copy which i have now purchased from richard plumb, how many times can you use these retail versions of leopard, i have used it on three different computers since i bought it from richard. if i buy a retail version of ilife will i be able to use that multiple times as well.

[richard plumb]

don't worry, I didn't use that one it came from the supplier installed with leopard.

fair enough if it doesn't come with ilife - my sister can buy it if she wants it. Just checking that was the case as my leopard upgrade on my imac had iLife. Now I realise thats because they were already on my iMac before it was upgraded.

[Pofadda]

I have recently been converted to a Mac (mini) and it's a lovely little device. I was not impressed with the iPhoto component of iLife and would not spend money on iLife for it alone.

Instead, I installed Picasa2 (Windows) after installing Darwine (not 'Wine'), the only downside of this act was that I have Picasa's flagrantly Windowsy interface to deal with (Fine on Windows but coarse on a Mac )

The problem, for me, with iPhoto is that it makes copies of all pics it finds so possibly doubling the space the pics take up. These pics are in an Apple proprietary format. Picasa's plus is that it only builds an index of the pics it finds leaving them where they were. It will, however, allow you to arrange them in 'virtual' folders if you want, or move/copy them around your hard disk(s) or delete them. I'm doing this through my Mac on pics on two other Windows machines as well as the Mac.

I thought I was having problems installing Darwine - many do - but it seemed to come right as I downloaded Picasa2 and it installed fine! Have a look.

[Tenex]

Originally Posted by Pofadda

The problem, for me, with iPhoto is that it makes copies of all pics it finds so possibly doubling the space the pics take up.

Wrong, you don't have to import (copy) your photos thereby doubling the space they take up, from the iPhoto Help file -

When you import photos from your hard disk, you can choose to have iPhoto make copies of your originals for use in iPhoto or just point to the original files.

Incidentally what proprietary format? Mine are organised in the iPhoto library but they are all numerically numbered by my DSLR and show as JPGs.