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Old 08-02-2003, 4:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why are Sky channels so much quieter than normal terrestial ones ??

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On my TV the normal I have the normal terrestial channels plus I watch Sky via RF (rather than SCART).

With this setup the sound output on the Sky channel is considerably quieter than the other channels.

In the digibox setup I have the sound level set to maximum ??

Anyone got any ideas ??

And before anyone asks why I am not watching Sky via SCART it is a case of not of SCART sockets on the TV (and don't want a switcher box).

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Old 08-02-2003, 4:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't have this problem with my old Pace BSKYB2200 and my ancient PYE TV set so I guess you've got a problem with your (unknown make/model) Digibox or with your TV set. Maybe time to buy a modern TV with a Scart socket? Be sure to check that it's compatible with the Sky Digibox before parting with your money. Ask for a demo.

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Old 08-02-2003, 4:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't have this problem with my old Pace BSKYB2200 and my ancient PYE TV set so I guess you've got a problem with your (unknown make/model) Digibox or with your TV set. Maybe time to buy a modern TV with a Scart socket? Be sure to check that it's compatible with the Sky Digibox before parting with your money. Ask for a demo.

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The digibox is less than a year old (Grundig).

The TV has two scart sockets [ but one of them is used to connect the TV to the ext amp since the TV doesn't have phono output ].

I am seriously considering a Panny TX32PL10 as a new TV so hopefully the problem will go away then ...
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Old 09-02-2003, 1:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The digibox is less than a year old (Grundig).
Grundigs suffer from a power supply problem that can have all sorts of weird effects. Mean Time Before Failure depends on how hot you've kept it.

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I am seriously considering a Panny TX32PL10 as a new TV so hopefully the problem will go away then ...
Be sure to see and hear it demonstrated with your Sky Digibox before parting with your cash.

* The volume may still be too low.
* The picture may be shifted left when RGB is selected.
* It may not respond to the Sky remote control.
* The picture quality may not be what you'd expect.

Try before you buy.
 
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Old 09-02-2003, 12:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Why are Sky channels so much quieter than normal terrestial ones ??

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Hi all,
plus I watch Sky via RF (rather than SCART).

Adam Brunt
This would also mean your not getting stereo via this method. Unless I'm wrong, the only way to get proper stereo via any type of sky box is to use its scart /av output, either to a tv or external amp. This might explain the reduced volume perhaps?

Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.
 
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Old 09-02-2003, 10:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What I find even more annoying is that the volume is different on every single channel so that every time I switch channels I also have to adjust volume.
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Old 10-02-2003, 10:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The TV has two scart sockets [ but one of them is used to connect the TV to the ext amp since the TV doesn't have phono output ]
But if your feeding it with RF the output from the TV will be mono???????
 
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Old 10-02-2003, 10:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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* The volume may still be too low.
* The picture may be shifted left when RGB is selected.
* It may not respond to the Sky remote control.
* The picture quality may not be what you'd expect.

Try before you buy.
I have a PL10, and can confirm that volume, RGB shift and remote control are fine.

Pic quality is personal opinion!
 
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Re: Why are Sky channels so much quieter than normal terrestial ones ??

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And before anyone asks why I am not watching Sky via SCART it is a case of not of SCART sockets on the TV (and don't want a switcher box).
Sky on RF ! OUCH!

Are you saying you don't have enough scart socs on your TV?

How many? and what do you have connected to them?

You're missing out on better pic quality and stereo sound.

BTW, just i've bought a Quintro scart control.
Got a stb, dvd and X Box connected to it.
I don't even realise it's there... VERY transparent.
Defo worth a look.
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i changed my (very) old pace digibox last year to a newish silver Grundig model (330?), and can confirm that the volume output is quieter than the old pace. All sound is channelled through a fully wired scart (same as before). I think it can just come down to the make of digibox.

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Old 12-02-2003, 11:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The PF10 works fine with Sky.

If you are connecting TV to amp for superior sound, why not just connect Sky unit direct to your amp with phonos for stereo sound, and scart the digibox to telly for better picture?
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Old 13-02-2003, 8:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Have you checked the volume setting in the box service menu?
 
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The TV has two scart sockets and the RF socket ... that's it.

One of the AV sockets is used to output the sound of the TV to the amp - so that leaves me with one, RGB enabled, which has linked to the DVD and VCR.

The sound output on the Digibox is at maximum.

Unlike what someone posted earlier, all Sky channels are the same level, it is just that Sky is quieter than the rest.

I will just have to wait, I suppose, until I get the new TV
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Old 13-02-2003, 4:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Why not wire it like this:

DVD -> Sky box VCR SCART
Sky box -> TV SCART 1
VCR -> TV SCART 2

Then take the audio feed from the VCR (either second SCART or phono out) to your amp? You'll need to leave the VCR tuned to AV1.

If then VCR has no second SCART or phono out, then:

DVD -> Sky box VCR SCART
Sky box -> TV SCART 1
VCR -> TV RF

I'm not sure if Sky boxes pass through RGB, but even if they don't the trade off of losing RGB on DVDs is far less IMO than going to RF on Sky. As the VCR is the lowest quality source, it will be least hampered by RF.

edit: Re-reading your post it semes one/both of the DVD or VCR has 2 SCARTs; can you post details, as it may be possible to daisychain them all into SCART 1.

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Old 13-02-2003, 10:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by AdamBrunt
[b]The TV has two scart sockets and the RF socket ... that's it.

One of the AV sockets is used to output the sound of the TV to the amp - so that leaves me with one, RGB enabled, which has linked to the DVD and VCR.

I still can't understand why you use TV scart to connect to your amp??

Has the Grundig digibox got phono output for audio?
What amp are you connecting to,?
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