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dalar
10-09-2007, 11:51 AM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Sounds like a mouthfull, but Im glad its coming!
Link: http://indianajones.com/site/index.html
inzaman
10-09-2007, 12:16 PM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Sounds like a mouthfull, but Im glad its coming!
Link: http://indianajones.com/site/index.html
Same here :clap:
sore napper
10-09-2007, 12:20 PM
Don't know what to think of that name. I would have been happy with just Indiana Jones.
Sounds more like a computer game than a movie.
Still the movie I'm looking forward to the most though.
Tejstar
10-09-2007, 12:34 PM
The films always had long names though so it keeps in line with the rest. I like it personally.
enablerbro1
10-09-2007, 12:35 PM
Harrison is looking so old, still looking forward to it though and the music has the same effect as StarWars.
raigraphixs
10-09-2007, 1:06 PM
Harrison is looking so old, still looking forward to it though and the music has the same effect as StarWars.
the theme music is awesome, like the title.
the original title was going to be
Indiana Jones and The City of Gods
:)
ChrisBravoTown
10-09-2007, 2:45 PM
Makes about as much sense as 'Phantom Menace'.
LFC_SL
10-09-2007, 5:44 PM
Erm... hmmm...
Oh well. Roll on Indy 4. Unlike that tripe Star Wars, Lucas (and Spielberg) can make a good film!
raigraphixs
10-09-2007, 6:18 PM
Erm... hmmm...
Oh well. Roll on Indy 4. Unlike that tripe Star Wars, Lucas (and Spielberg) can make a good film!
apart from some bad scripting and acting now and then, star wars is immense universe filled and left us with excellent characters - human and alien, and worlds and amazing effects, personally i think the industry is richer with these 6 films, your not a fan i take it, i love them. But lets talk about Indy - which i think is great and cant wait to see what they come up with.
dognosh
10-09-2007, 10:34 PM
I love all the indy films
I love all the Starwars films
I take no notice of the critics or their bandwagons
long live these guys:cool:
brian s
10-09-2007, 11:12 PM
I love all the indy films
I love all the Starwars films
I take no notice of the critics or their bandwagons
long live these guys:cool:
Don't love all of the Star Wars films but I love your style.
Cheers
Bri
Markum
11-09-2007, 12:18 PM
Ford will be 70 when he makes this movie. :thumbsdow
sore napper
11-09-2007, 12:44 PM
Harrison Ford is one of the all time classic Hollywood movie stars.
As for him being 65 and doing Indiana Jones, I do not care. Not once has his age been a problem with me.
Some of Harrison Ford's later roles haven't been great, but I would still watch any movie that he's in. If the movie is bad, I still enjoy watching Ford, may be with the exception of K-19.
And
I love Hollywood Homicide :eek:
raigraphixs
11-09-2007, 1:15 PM
maybe shia will be doing more action than the old man in the movie...
sore napper
28-10-2007, 11:00 PM
Anyone watch Jonathan Ross the other night?
Cate Blanchett was on and she said that they had completed filming on Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
:arty:
Lets hope we see a trailer soon.
raigraphixs
29-10-2007, 1:27 AM
Anyone watch Jonathan Ross the other night?
Cate Blanchett was on and she said that they had complete filming on Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
:arty:
Lets hope we see a trailer soon.
didnt they start shooting only 4 months ago, if they have finished, thats gives 7 months for editing and post-production, cant wait.
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inzaman
29-10-2007, 12:00 PM
cant wait.
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Same here, i cannot believe it has finished filming already :cool:
really looking forward to this, this is right under Iron Man on my list of films i cant wait to see :grin:
raigraphixs
02-11-2007, 4:46 PM
Its a wrap (http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html) :thumbsup:
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sore napper
02-11-2007, 4:58 PM
Roll On 22nd May.:clap:
:arty:
Bald Monkey
02-11-2007, 5:06 PM
Just picked up the 4 disc "complete DVD movie collection" boxset (THX Mastered) ;) to make sure I'm up-to-date just incase I haven't seen this often enough.. :devil: was a bargain for £16 I thought :smashin:
raigraphixs
03-11-2007, 8:19 AM
Source; Empire
Indy IV Picture Thief Off To Jail
Roderick Davis, the man who stole over 2,000 stills from Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull has pleaded guilty to charges of receiving stolen property and commercial burglary. Davis, 37, will serve two years and four months in jail as part of his plea deal. Without the plea deal, Davis would have spent at least four years behind bars.
Davis was arrested on Oct. 4 with the help of internet film sites who informed police that they were being offered the chance to buy the illegally obtained photos. Police then posed as potential buyers and set up a meeting with Davis. When he arrived trying to flog the pictures, they only went and bleedin' nicked him.
Though Empire had no actual part in the apprehending of this criminal, we like to think that our very existence as part of the internet really helped.:god:
Some would say this man would still be at large if it wasn't for us. Some say we're heroes – maybe the greatest of heroes. But we don't need your thanks, just your respect, cash and maybe that nice watch you're wearing there.
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raigraphixs
27-11-2007, 6:34 PM
indy pics
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5629/indyskull1ym8.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indyskull1ym8.jpg) http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7209/indyskull2largeoa8.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indyskull2largeoa8.jpg) http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7591/indyskull3large1cn8.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indyskull3large1cn8.jpg)
Christ that man does not age lol ok his hair is gray but he hasent really changed since Star Wars!
like the look they've given shia very fitting with the time this film is set in.
raigraphixs
10-12-2007, 3:26 PM
First poster/artwork revealed and its pretty hot :)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3131/24306sy0.jpg
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is it just me or have they made him look a lot younger in that poster :confused:
EDIT: whats up with the little face (look above the skulls nose)
danaldinho7
10-12-2007, 3:56 PM
Christ that man does not age lol ok his hair is gray but he hasent really changed since Star Wars!
like the look they've given shia very fitting with the time this film is set in.
it's called make up
it's called make up
i think you'll find its called photoshop :rotfl:
i think hes just got one of thoes faces that doesnt really change to much
sore napper
09-01-2008, 11:30 AM
In today's paper.
Cate Blanchett plays the villain, and it's old news. It's just that it's the first I've heard of it.
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1576038/story.jhtml
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7522/cateblanchetteyl2.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cateblanchetteyl2.jpg)
raigraphixs
15-01-2008, 7:32 PM
Ooh cobwebs
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.54426e366a.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?54426e366a.jpg)
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Sevin
16-01-2008, 12:06 AM
Really looking forward to this but I just wondered is the idea for Shia to take over the role after this?
Vince Noir
16-01-2008, 1:55 AM
Really looking forward to this but I just wondered is the idea for Shia to take over the role after this?
If this is a success i think its the only way the the franchise could continue.
Harrison could no way make another after this. And seeing as Speilberg seems to have a major crush on Shia i would really put money on it.
raigraphixs
05-02-2008, 5:04 PM
Is this the actual Crystal Skull as in the movie.., some websites think it is.
So Dot Cotton is doing movies :)
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8086/rtcrystalskull1hy8.jpg
raigraphixs
14-02-2008, 7:56 AM
Bootleg Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYMXqICAng
this looks awesome :clap::clap::clap:
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elicash73
14-02-2008, 10:18 AM
Very disappointing.
In one shot he's saying "I'm getting too old for this ****" (or words to that effect) In the next he's pulling off a ridiculous acrobatic that Indiana Jones would have though twice about attempting 20 years ago let alone at the age of 60.
In Raiders Indy got beat-up and hurt. In subsequent incarnations he became less and less vulnerable until now we have a trailer opening with flag-waving accolades that belong in front of Spider/Super man.
eiren
14-02-2008, 11:38 AM
I just got very excited....
BAN5HEE
14-02-2008, 1:02 PM
Very disappointing.
In one shot he's saying "I'm getting too old for this ****" (or words to that effect) In the next he's pulling off a ridiculous acrobatic that Indiana Jones would have though twice about attempting 20 years ago let alone at the age of 60.
In Raiders Indy got beat-up and hurt. In subsequent incarnations he became less and less vulnerable until now we have a trailer opening with flag-waving accolades that belong in front of Spider/Super man.
That's becuase with the 1st Indy they didn't have the CGI and hickory pokey that they do now. I think it looks awesome and can't wait for it :clap::clap::clap:
sore napper
14-02-2008, 1:08 PM
Bootleg Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYMXqICAng
this looks awesome :clap::clap::clap:
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Good Stuff
The offical trailer will be released later today on Yahoo Movies and Indiana Jones.com
http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html
I thought they said they weren't going to use CGI for the stunt work? I hate it when you see mortal people doing unbelievable stunts via CGI. Naomi Watts in King Kong springs to mind. :eek:
Gae
sore napper
14-02-2008, 2:13 PM
The trailer has been released.:clap:
http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html
It's a larger screen at Yahoo
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/indianajones.html?showVideo=1
meansizzler
14-02-2008, 2:24 PM
720P Quicktime H264 Download
162MB
Download Link (http://downloads.paramount.com//mp/indianajones/trlr1/IJ_KOTCS_trailer1_720p.mov) "Right Click [Save Target As]"
Best copying Link to Download Manager eg..Getright
Thank Me Later, should play fine on 360 and PS3
moby125
14-02-2008, 4:06 PM
Looks like the germans are trying to steal the Arc of the Covenant at the beginning of the trailer in the huge warehouse!
Roll on the 22nd!!
Simon Young
14-02-2008, 4:26 PM
Germans = Russians
epicdream
14-02-2008, 6:23 PM
I don't care what anyone says, this looks like it's going to be lots of fun!!! :smashin:
Yay for Indy!!!!!:thumbsup:
Sonny Burnett
14-02-2008, 8:05 PM
Ray Winstone: "This aint gonna be easy"
Indy: " Not as easy as it used to be"
Shia: " You're a.....Teacher?"
Indy" Part Time"............................:thumbsup:
Cant wait!!!!
MrFurious
14-02-2008, 8:32 PM
me neither, massive part of my childhood the indy films.
when the music kicked in half way through the trailer i had goose bumps...love it.
what a year this is going to be.
Sonny Burnett
14-02-2008, 9:08 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8716/indykingdom30ph4.jpg
MJeeves
14-02-2008, 11:28 PM
This is gonna be SO COOL! :thumbsup:
BenchyUK
14-02-2008, 11:37 PM
The trailer looked good and it was definately Indy but it did seem a little OTT when indy was swinging on his whip from car to car so quickly. He was never that good in the other films.
I wouldn't expect him to be so mobile and fast as the old film like John McClane in Die Hard 4.
The film will be awesome though:thumbsup:
720P Quicktime H264 Download
162MB
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Subject: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Trailer - NOW ONLINE!
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R1PLEY
15-02-2008, 2:34 PM
I thought it looked very good, although, some of the stunts were a little over the top and I hope they don't take this "I'm getting too old for this" joke too far.
Decadence
15-02-2008, 3:15 PM
The 1st and 2nd films were awesome, the 3rd was crap...I'll still be at the front of the queue for this though.
Shaun666
15-02-2008, 3:18 PM
The 1st and 2nd films were awesome, the 3rd was crap...I'll still be at the front of the queue for this though.
What ? 3rd was brilliant, better than 2nd !
Simon Young
15-02-2008, 4:48 PM
OK. I've done a re-edit of the trailer, replacing the music at the beginning with something more appropriate, taking out a lot of the dialogue and rearranging some of the shots slightly. I wanted to give more of a 'teaser' feel and fix the slightly odd pacing of the trailer. I also overlaid music from the Raiders soundtrack CD so that the music is now in stereo, even if the sound effects are still mono. I started with the 720p studio encode (1080p was too much hassle, I'm afraid), transcoded to Apple ProRes before editing in Final Cut Pro, then I exported to a 120MB 720p H.264 file.
Here (http://www.sbstudios.f2s.com/sy/vids/IJ_KOTCS_sy-edit_1080p.mp4) it is, if anyone is interested. :smashin:
UPDATED: The link is now for the 1080p version with one or two small fixes.
elicash73
15-02-2008, 4:58 PM
Good job. Excellent choice for the music but you need to get rid of the American flag and put the soldiers guns back in their hands to make it perfect...... http://www.aintitcool.com/
Thanks god the people who put this trailer together have been exposed as misguided marketing morons.
Simon Young
15-02-2008, 5:05 PM
I know what you mean. However, I didn't use the altered shot of Indy and Mac because it looked so terrible. If an HD version of the uncensored trailer comes along, I'll replace the American flag shot. You know, it's possible that the flag is supposed to be there in the actual film, to emphasise (with some irony) the fact that Indy has been kidnapped by the American army.
However, it has probably just been altered for the trailer.
elicash73
15-02-2008, 5:07 PM
Yeah thats a pretty high flag mast in the middle of desert. The only thing I find ironic, with reference to the insertion the stars and stripes and the removal of weaponry is Americas gun laws.
Good work though. Especially for getting the peaks in the score to fit the title cards.
Simon Young
15-02-2008, 5:19 PM
Totally agree with you about the changes. Totally unnecessary and insulting to the intelligence, especially in light of America's nutty gun culture.
As for getting the score to fit the titles, it was actually the other way around: some subtle speed changes here and there during the least obvious moments. I really hated the way they mangled the score in the trailer, repeating certain passages over and over. Some of the repetition wasn't very clean either - it took me one evening of editing to achieve a better result! Sometimes I wonder who they get to cut these things; they often seem so rushed! Even little things like the transition from 'A Steven Spielberg Film' to the shot of Shia LaBeouf looking round - when you actually listen to the music edit in the original, it doesn't flow terribly well at all. So I fixed that. ;)
domtheone
15-02-2008, 6:05 PM
Hmmm. Pretty neutral on the trailer.
After the first minute of recaps:god:, the rest looks ok. Hope there's not too much cheesy (Michael Bay style) humour.
If it's anywhere near as good as Temple of Doom or the Last Crusade (i'm assuming that it won't touch Raiders) then i'll be happy:thumbsup:
enablerbro1
15-02-2008, 7:06 PM
OK. I've done a re-edit of the trailer, replacing the music at the beginning with something more appropriate, taking out a lot of the dialogue and rearranging some of the shots slightly. I wanted to give more of a 'teaser' feel and fix the slightly odd pacing of the trailer. I also overlaid music from the Raiders soundtrack CD so that the music is now in stereo, even if the sound effects are still mono. I started with the 720p studio encode (1080p was too much hassle, I'm afraid), transcoded to Apple ProRes before editing in Final Cut Pro, then I exported to a 120MB 720p H.264 file.
Here (http://www.sbstudios.f2s.com/sy/vids/indy_kotcs_sy_edit.mp4) it is, if anyone is interested. :smashin:
Pretty impressive and a much better use of the silhouette. :thumbsup:
Battlestar
18-02-2008, 3:07 PM
Just seen the trailer, looks pretty good for a teaser if you ask me. I would bet a lot of money that its not the finaly version we will be seeing before the film is released.
better youtube version if any one is interested.
nWlCwGlH-oA
MrFurious
18-02-2008, 3:10 PM
ive read online somewhere that a lot of digital editing has been done ala E.t. where they have removed guns etc!!!!!
i hope this is not the case.
and ive just read further back on this thread and seen the details.
Battlestar
18-02-2008, 3:11 PM
Originally Posted by Simon Young
OK. I've done a re-edit of the trailer, replacing the music at the beginning with something more appropriate, taking out a lot of the dialogue and rearranging some of the shots slightly. I wanted to give more of a 'teaser' feel and fix the slightly odd pacing of the trailer. I also overlaid music from the Raiders soundtrack CD so that the music is now in stereo, even if the sound effects are still mono. I started with the 720p studio encode (1080p was too much hassle, I'm afraid), transcoded to Apple ProRes before editing in Final Cut Pro, then I exported to a 120MB 720p H.264 file.
Here it is, if anyone is interested.
Simon, I gota say, that is miles better, Have you put it on you tube?
mooperman
18-02-2008, 3:24 PM
is it me or does the big warehouse at the beggining of the trailer look like the one they put the ark of the covenent in at the end of Raiders...?? And with Raiders being the most recent time we saw Indy (i think the order actually goes TOD, LC and the Raiders!) maybe there is something to do with that in there....:rolleyes:
stuart1976
18-02-2008, 3:33 PM
is it me or does the big warehouse at the beggining of the trailer look like the one they put the ark of the covenent in at the end of Raiders...?? And with Raiders being the most recent time we saw Indy (i think the order actually goes TOD, LC and the Raiders!) maybe there is something to do with that in there....:rolleyes:
The order is Temple of Doom (1935), Raider (1936) Last Crusade (1938).
But your right, the warehouse does look like the one at the end of Raiders.
mooperman
18-02-2008, 3:49 PM
The order is Temple of Doom (1935), Raider (1936) Last Crusade (1938).
But your right, the warehouse does look like the one at the end of Raiders.
i'm sure there is a part in LC when he says about he never knew what happened to his old prof or his daughter (in reference to Marion) thus making it before Raiders... i could be wrong though but having recently watched the box set i'm sure that was why i made my mind up....
like i said, i could be wrong though :suicide::confused:
mooperman
18-02-2008, 3:52 PM
The order is Temple of Doom (1935), Raider (1936) Last Crusade (1938).
But your right, the warehouse does look like the one at the end of Raiders.
i'm sure there is a part in LC when he says about he never knew what happened to his old prof or his daughter (in reference to Marion) thus making it before Raiders... i could be wrong though but having recently watched the box set i'm sure that was why i made my mind up....
like i said, i could be wrong though :suicide::confused:
scratch that, your right i'm wrong based on the years (which you actually put and i missed!)....:suicide::oops:
tristan2
18-02-2008, 3:57 PM
i wonder how quick they will release a blu ray boxset after may 22
domtheone
18-02-2008, 5:26 PM
i wonder how quick they will release a blu ray boxset after may 22
Paramount need to go BR first.:lesson:
One step at a time;)
Sophistasista
19-02-2008, 12:42 PM
I thought they said they weren't going to use CGI for the stunt work? I hate it when you see mortal people doing unbelievable stunts via CGI. Naomi Watts in King Kong springs to mind. :eek:
Gae
Or Legolas in LotR : Two Towers, during the scene of the Battle against the Wargs, where he miraculously defies psychics, gravity, and pure sense with his sweeping around the neck of a horse.
So annoys me.
Anyway, can't wait for this film, love love love the first 3 (and admittedly even some of the Young Indiana Jones series wasn't all that bad!). I thought that Sean Connery was penned to return as his dad though?
mooperman
19-02-2008, 12:45 PM
I thought that Sean Connery was penned to return as his dad though?
i was reading that he said if there was 1 movie that could tempt him out of retirement then this would be it, alas it wasnt to be though, he declined as he is enjoying retirement to much in his own words....:grin:
R1PLEY
19-02-2008, 12:45 PM
Or Legolas in LotR : Two Towers, during the scene of the Battle against the Wargs, where he miraculously defies psychics, gravity, and pure sense with his sweeping around the neck of a horse.
So annoys me.
Anyway, can't wait for this film, love love love the first 3 (and admittedly even some of the Young Indiana Jones series wasn't all that bad!). I thought that Sean Connery was penned to return as his dad though?
"I thought long and hard about it, but in the end, retirement is just too damned much fun," Connery wrote on the "Indiana Jones" website.
Simon Young
19-02-2008, 1:41 PM
Simon, I gota say, that is miles better, Have you put it on you tube?
Thanks! I haven't put it on YouTube yet, I wanna make a 1080p version first and put the fixed international (uncensored) version of one shot in there. After that, I'll put it up on here for you guys to download, and then perhaps I'll put it on YouTube before someone else beats me to it! :smashin:
enablerbro1
19-02-2008, 2:48 PM
"I thought long and hard about it, but in the end, retirement is just too damned much fun," Connery wrote on the "Indiana Jones" website.
I'll wager they didn't offer him enough money, pure and simple.
Simon Young
22-02-2008, 2:13 PM
Right, a 1080p version of my re-edit is available to download here (http://www.sbstudios.f2s.com/sy/vids/IJ_KOTCS_sy-edit_1080p.mp4).
I'll be attempting to put it on YouTube tonight.
tristan2
24-02-2008, 7:14 AM
Paramount need to go BR first.:lesson:
One step at a time;)
they just have cant wait means more titles
HugoFJH
27-02-2008, 6:30 PM
I just saw the trailer the other day, I am really gagging to see the whole film enjoyed all three of the others (although Temple is my least favourite)
Lucasfilm release = potential for BR release (or HD-DVD for that matter)
raigraphixs
04-03-2008, 8:51 PM
New Indiana Jones $pecial Edition DVDs Coming
To coincide with the release of Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, the original three films are being re-released on DVD with new extras on May 1.
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark:
"Raiders of the Lost Ark": An Introduction by Steven Spielberg & George Lucas
Indiana Jones: An Appreciation--The cast and crew of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" pay tribute to the original trilogy
The Melting Face--A recreation of the amazing physical effect of the villain's melting face in "Raiders of the Lost Ark," including Steven Spielberg and George Lucas commenting on the evolution of visual effects and CGI
Storyboard Sequence--The Well of Souls
Galleries
Illustrations & Props
Production Photographs & Portraits
Effects/ILM
Marketing
"LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures" Game Demo and Trailer
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom:
"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom": An Introduction by Steven Spielberg & George Lucas
Creepy Crawlies--Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and Frank Marshall reminisce about snakes, bugs and rats
Locations--Travel across the world to discover where the films take place and where they were shot
Storyboard Sequence--The Mine Cart Chase
Galleries
Illustrations & Props
Production Photographs & Portraits
Effects/ILM
Marketing
"LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures" Game Demo and Trailer
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade:
"Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade": An Introduction by Steven Spielberg & George Lucas
The Women: The American Film Institute Tribute--The three Indiana Jones women (Karen Allen, Kate Capshaw and Alison Doody) reunite for a discussion
Friends and Enemies--Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and Indiana Jones writers discuss how they created the most iconic characters in film history, including a look at new faces in "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"
Storyboard Sequence--The Opening Sequence
Galleries
Illustrations & Props
Production Photographs & Portraits
Effects/ILM
Marketing
"LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures" Game Demo and Trailer
AgentCool
05-03-2008, 9:47 AM
^^Why no Blu-rays?!?^^
MJeeves
06-03-2008, 9:35 AM
^^Why no Blu-rays?!?^^
Exactly! :confused:
Battlestar
06-03-2008, 9:54 AM
New Indiana Jones $pecial Edition DVDs Coming
To coincide with the release of Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, the original three films are being re-released on DVD with new extras on May 1.
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark:
"Raiders of the Lost Ark": An Introduction by Steven Spielberg & George Lucas
Indiana Jones: An Appreciation--The cast and crew of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" pay tribute to the original trilogy
The Melting Face--A recreation of the amazing physical effect of the villain's melting face in "Raiders of the Lost Ark," including Steven Spielberg and George Lucas commenting on the evolution of visual effects and CGI
Storyboard Sequence--The Well of Souls
Galleries
Illustrations & Props
Production Photographs & Portraits
Effects/ILM
Marketing
"LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures" Game Demo and Trailer
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom:
"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom": An Introduction by Steven Spielberg & George Lucas
Creepy Crawlies--Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and Frank Marshall reminisce about snakes, bugs and rats
Locations--Travel across the world to discover where the films take place and where they were shot
Storyboard Sequence--The Mine Cart Chase
Galleries
Illustrations & Props
Production Photographs & Portraits
Effects/ILM
Marketing
"LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures" Game Demo and Trailer
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade:
"Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade": An Introduction by Steven Spielberg & George Lucas
The Women: The American Film Institute Tribute--The three Indiana Jones women (Karen Allen, Kate Capshaw and Alison Doody) reunite for a discussion
Friends and Enemies--Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and Indiana Jones writers discuss how they created the most iconic characters in film history, including a look at new faces in "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"
Storyboard Sequence--The Opening Sequence
Galleries
Illustrations & Props
Production Photographs & Portraits
Effects/ILM
Marketing
"LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures" Game Demo and Trailer
Indiana Jones and the double dip re release cash in !!!;)
sore napper
06-03-2008, 12:01 PM
They don't look like they're worth double dipping for. It looks like some of the features will be cuts form the forth disc.
Could be that they are being released separately for the first time.
BenchyUK
06-03-2008, 2:56 PM
I'm gusessing that for s Blu-Ray owners they are going to wait and release all 4 films in a Box set at the same time as the DVD release of Indy 4.
Probably near Christmas:smashin:
raigraphixs
10-03-2008, 7:37 AM
new poster
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/651/indianjonesxlargema4.jpg
Ightenhill
10-03-2008, 8:20 AM
quite retro
Shaun666
10-03-2008, 8:37 AM
But if we do get a blu-ray release will Temple of Doom still be cut in the UK ?
Russell_Piper
10-03-2008, 9:17 AM
Can't wait to see this?
What are the cuts in TOD?
domtheone
10-03-2008, 9:20 AM
They don't look like they're worth double dipping for. It looks like some of the features will be cuts form the forth disc.
Could be that they are being released separately for the first time.
Aye.
Obviously some may double dip here but it's just a cash in.
Maybe a Directors Commentary:rolleyes: would have added something different and worthwhile...
pRot3us
10-03-2008, 3:16 PM
Can't wait to see this?
What are the cuts in TOD?
- Cuts to a close-up of a heart being ripped from the chest and the subsequent self healing of the chest wound.
- The deletion of the line "Leave him alone you bastards" when the Chinese kid is about to be whipped.
- Deletion of the Chinese Kid burning a guard's stomach with a flaming torch (and hence discovering an ability to heal).
- The sequence in which a Sacrifice Victim is being lowered into the fiery pit has been shortened and set to different music.
- Cut to the first 1s or 2s from the shot of his fall in order to delete the image of his head hitting the side of the cliff.
- The American decision to rate the film PG caused huge controversy in the US at the time. In fact, the controversy over the PG rating (which was seen by many as the MPAA caving in to Spielberg and corporate pressure) was largely responsible for the introduction of the PG-13 certificate.
- In the UK today, the UNCUT Version would now be considered as 12 or even 12/15 borderline. The PG version is still considered to be one of the stronger PGs ever certificated by the BBFC and has generated more complaints than most over the years.
...
raigraphixs
12-04-2008, 11:40 AM
MAD for it :)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4360/madindy2yo2.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=madindy2yo2.jpg)
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/931/madindy1tv8.jpg
raigraphixs
16-04-2008, 10:57 PM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull could be clocked at a final running time is around 140 minutes, i guessing it will be slightly lower, i know Indy is getting older is that why its taking longer to get what ever he's doing, done :grin:
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Pincho Paxton
17-04-2008, 12:08 AM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull could be clocked at a final running time is around 140 minutes, i guessing it will be slightly lower, i know Indy is getting older is that why its taking longer to get what ever he doing done :grin:
I've got a DVD here with 140 minutes written on the back, but it actually should be 1hr 40minutes.
Sonny Burnett
21-04-2008, 11:00 AM
Running time has now been confirmed by Frank marshall at a little over 2 hours.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/04/20/rumor-killer-only-two-hours-of-crystal-skulls/
aprout
21-04-2008, 3:06 PM
I've got a DVD here with 140 minutes written on the back, but it actually should be 1hr 40minutes.
Riiiiight
:rotfl:
Pincho Paxton
21-04-2008, 3:31 PM
Riiiiight
:rotfl:
Jim Carrey... The Mask..Run Time: 137mins Approx.
Sonny Burnett
28-04-2008, 1:38 PM
New Tv spot aired in the states yesterday......
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The full trailer is supposed to debut in front of Iron Man this week....:thumbsup:
raigraphixs
04-05-2008, 11:06 AM
New Trailer
480 (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/trlr2/Indy_KOTCS_Trailer2_480p.mov), 720 (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/trlr2/Indy_KOTCS_Trailer2_720p.mov), 1080 (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/trlr2/Indy_KOTCS_Trailer2_1080p.mov)
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mooperman
13-05-2008, 12:06 PM
read this story earlier.... not good..!!
http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/films/article.html?in_article_id=147379&in_page_id=27
i'll still be going to watch it though....
midknight
13-05-2008, 12:46 PM
read this story earlier.... not good..!!
http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/films/article.html?in_article_id=147379&in_page_id=27
i'll still be going to watch it though....
I read those reviews Metro is referring to on Ain't it cool and they are just opinons of a few people who saw a screening - there were also positive reviews too.
Personally I can't wait to see Indy back in action and I'm old enought o have seen Raiders first time round at the cinema:eek:
raigraphixs
13-05-2008, 2:34 PM
Well i booked my tickets, looking forward to it :thumbsup:
An average indiana jones movie is probably better than most good movies :)
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GYRODEC1
14-05-2008, 7:02 AM
Hi Guys,
I just hope there not going to use too much CGI in this film. The previous Indiana Jones films didn't have too much in those days, and that's what made those films more realistic and such a hit. If they do use a lot of CGI, I think it would ruin the atmosphere.
Anyway let me know your opinions.
Jazz
Bill Hicks
14-05-2008, 9:02 AM
Just read the supposedly negative review at Ain't it cool.com and i'm happy to report that the review is actually positive!:thumbsup:
Russell_Piper
14-05-2008, 10:02 AM
Hi Guys,
I just hope there not going to use too much CGI in this film. The previous Indiana Jones films didn't have too much in those days, and that's what made those films more realistic and such a hit. If they do use a lot of CGI, I think it would ruin the atmosphere.
Anyway let me know your opinions.
Jazz
The aintitcool review criticises it for using too little CGI.
raigraphixs
14-05-2008, 10:10 AM
There will be Shia haters out there that will trash the movie just because he is in it.
I be happy as long as the movie has the usual ingredients - Indy with whip, good music score, aztecs, traps, insects, puzzles, stunts. What's not to like? :)
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raigraphixs
19-05-2008, 9:58 AM
After last nights first Cannes Film Festival screening of Indy 4, the reviews are in. There is a mix of positive and negative reviews, only positives below, the negatives take it far too seriously in my opinion.
There will be spoilers in reviews if you do a 'full' read!
Please do not post any spoilers for the film, use 'Spoiler Tags' if you must.
Empire 4/5 (http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=9816) :thumbsup:
Total Film 3/5 (http://www.totalfilm.com/cinema_reviews/films_out_this_week/indiana_jones_and_the_kingdom_of_the_crystal_skull )
The Sun - 5/5 (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/article1178027.ece) :thumbsup:
IGN - 3.5/5 (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/874/874934p1.html)
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Bill Hicks
19-05-2008, 10:33 AM
The reviews here are reasonably positive which is a relief (Had visions of The Phantom Menace all over again!) Just can't wait to see it myself this weekend.
P.S. Avoid the Telegraph's Cannes review!
sore napper
19-05-2008, 8:55 PM
The IMDB Score just jumped to 9.2, with just over 900 votes.
I wonder if everybody at Cannes logged in and voted.:rolleyes:
raigraphixs
19-05-2008, 9:20 PM
The IMDB Score just jumped to 9.2, with just over 900 votes.
I wonder if everybody at Cannes logged in and voted.:rolleyes:
yea :clap:, a least the film is not a duffer, even if its got a old one in it :grin:
Russell_Piper
20-05-2008, 7:35 AM
I am all booked in for Thursday night, £38 for four tickets!!!! :thumbsdow
Really looking forward to it.
raigraphixs
20-05-2008, 9:29 AM
I am all booked in for Thursday night, £38 for four tickets!!!! :thumbsdow
Really looking forward to it.
take you own food then x 4 :grin:
going this weekend, looking forward to it :)
highly_defined
20-05-2008, 9:33 AM
Off to Odeon Leicester Square tonight for the press screening - can't wait! :clap:
sore napper
20-05-2008, 11:11 AM
I'm also booked in for Thursday. :clap:
I think its the first time that I've ever booked a cinema ticket.
raigraphixs
20-05-2008, 11:19 AM
I'm also booked in for Thursday. :clap:
I think its the first time that I've ever booked a cinema ticket.
really!, ok there is additional booking fee at most places, i like to get my fav seats, i even print mine at home, i hate queueing with a vengeance.
sore napper
20-05-2008, 11:25 AM
really!, ok there is additional booking fee at most places, i like to get my fav seats, i even print mine at home, i hate queueing with a vengeance.
I'm not fussed about the cost this time. Its the only movie that I've really been waiting for, even if its not great, I know that it'll be better than most of the movies out there.
I actual had thought that it opened on Monday and I was planning on going tonight. I was gutted when I found out that it didn't open till Thursday.
I hope they make another one, as there has already been talk about it.
I hope this one makes a clean fortune.
featherhall
20-05-2008, 11:51 AM
I can't wait to see it. As soon as that music pipes up and the hat and whip appears I will be in movie heaven.
Only downside is that the girlfriend is on nights, so I have to wait until next tuesday (although I have been tempted to go, she assures me she will be checking up on me to make sure I dont get a sneaky visit in).
Its Indy, and I would take reviews with a pinch of salt. Look what the reviewers said about Rambo :confused:
If you like a franchise, and have trust in it then we should buckle up and enjoy the ride.
chrisfairc16
20-05-2008, 6:09 PM
off to see it tonight . i work in a cinema and the have to tech screen it , usally your only aloud to take 4 people but for indy we get to take 10 needless to say it wasnt to hard to find 10 people =]
Captain_Danger
21-05-2008, 12:38 AM
I saw it tonight too thanks to a good friend of mine at my local cinema.
I have to say, it started OK, but just got progressively worse, and degenerated into one far-fetched action scene after the next.
Some really ropey and obvious CGI used at times too which was a shame to see.
PLOT Spoiler here...
The plot also I didn't like too much, I mean since when has Indy been about discovering aliens? And what was with that spaceship at the end, it was like a scene from Close Encounters.
I'm sorry, I tried to like it, I really did, but i'm a firm fan of the first 3 films, but this one is a bit of a stinker really in my humble opinion.
highly_defined
21-05-2008, 6:38 AM
Got to agree with Captain Danger. What a silly, disappointing film. Shia LeBouef is terribly miscast, Ray Winstone's character is totally redundant and Harrison Ford himself has completely lost the charisma that made the first films so much fun. The film is startlingly inept in places regarding pacing and editing and is at times incoherent regarding the plot, which is so full of exposition it can become tedious. Luckily there are a few well-made set pieces that got a round of applause from last night's audience but all in all it felt like a missed opportunity. How could Spielberg, Lucas et al have got it so... wrong?
chrisfairc16
21-05-2008, 7:44 AM
strangely enough i agree with you too . i left having thought it wasnt so bad was it ?? the sets wer amazing the cgi was not as nearly as bad as i thought it would be it was obvious when it was cgi but not really a bad thing. the action kept the film going at the same pace all the way threw .. and yet when it ended i couldnt help but feel cheated. i think its ok for the family adventure types and kids but for the die hard indy fans u may be let down . Or just excited because its indy who knows .
SG-22
21-05-2008, 10:31 PM
will try and go see this tomorrow (22nd) as i have the day off. will let you know what i think. sad to see some a little disappointed with the film but i still cant wait!
Bill Hicks
22-05-2008, 7:34 AM
It's not looking good!
I'm off to see it tomorrow (Friday) late morning so i'll post my opinion here tomorrow afternoon. But after reading the AV forum member reviews, which I trust a lot more than most professional reviews, I'm expecting the worst!
But on the bright side it's not The Phantom Menace all over again........................................... I hope!
Speccy48k
22-05-2008, 10:43 AM
Saw it last night at a midnight preview showing. Unfortunately very disappointing. Probably again it suffers from trying to compare it with the trilogy rather than in its own right.
"But on the bright side it's not The Phantom Menace all over again"...
yes its suffers from George " i cant let a good thing go" Lucas...
enablerbro1
22-05-2008, 11:46 AM
Sad news but not unexpected. I guess the Indy feature to be excited about is Lego Indy.
MJeeves
22-05-2008, 12:58 PM
How much is Karen Allen as Marion in the film?
Sorry to hear so many disappointing reviews:(
Just back from seeing it myself and have to agree with the rest here the first hour was fine but the last hour was just awful and absurd i thought.
Spoiler:As soon as i saw rosewell at the start i thought something was wrong here and by the end with that spaceship i was half expecting indy to jump in the millenium falcon and change in to han solo:grin:
They should of kept to the last three and kept more to archeology and not science fiction but i suppose they did keep Lucas so should of expected it.
Speccy48k
22-05-2008, 1:55 PM
I guess the Indy feature to be excited about is Lego Indy.
Yes will be getting this :D have the star wars complete series
enablerbro1
22-05-2008, 4:49 PM
The Evening Standard review is saying that this is better than either 2 or 3. I wonder how much the Indy 4 advert in the paper cost.
Tejstar
22-05-2008, 5:03 PM
Disappointed by the reviews, I think I'll be waiting for this to come to DVD...
Literally just come back from the cinema fresh from seeing Indy in his latest outing.
I cant remember the first time I saw Indiana Jones (for me) its one of those films that has just always been there. I’m 22 so this is only the first time I’ve seen Indy on the big screen and that is where this film belongs, big visuals, big sound, this is film making the only way Steven Spielberg and George Lucas know how. Janusz Kaminski’s (War of the Worlds, Saving Privet Ryan) cinematography is spot on providing a slightly more modern feel to the film whilst still retaining the overall look of the 50’s.
Harison Ford is as good as ever as Indy. Hes just so likable and engaging as the character never faltering, even for a second. Shia LaBeouf is not everyone’s cup of tea and I can see why, he is at times a little hit and miss but I have to say that overall he plays the part well and is believable. John Hurt is, well, John Hurt, he’s always spot on but so underused here, only providing the other characters with pointers and just seems to be a bit of a hanger on. Now maybe that’s all his character is supposed to be but when you’ve got a great actor such as he is, it’s a bit of a waist. Ray Winstone I was very much looking forward to seeing but as other users have said was a big let down. He’s so much better than this, I’m really left wondering why he took a role so badly written. Cate Blanchett just didn’t do it for me, this character will not be going down as one of cinemas greatest baddies. It was great to see Karen Allen back but again her character seem only there for plot points.
There has been a few reviews posted already of which the poster didn’t exactly fall in love with the film. And I’d have to agree, when asked if I enjoyed the film I’ll have to answer ‘it was alright’. That dreaded word ‘alright’ not bad but not great. But that said if you liked/loved the other three films make sure you see this on the big screen surrounded by other fans because at the end of the day that’s what these films are all about.
You'll enjoy The Crystal Scull..... just not as much as the original trilogy.
I know I’ve skipped over things quite quickly but I know you guys don’t want to read masses about the film.
Max Payne
22-05-2008, 5:30 PM
Just back from watching it and feeling very,very underwelmed!!!
I would give it 2.5 stars out of 5.
There is one particular scene, that was so,so bad that I felt like getting sick. It involves Shia LeBouf (who I actually think is good), but how Spielberg came up with the scene and actually filmed it, was truly shocking!
Max would that be the scene where SPOILER:He swings in the trees with the monkeys?
enablerbro1
22-05-2008, 5:52 PM
For those that have seen it, did you get the impression that they were trying to set up the franchise to continue under the watch of LiBoof?
I went to the cinema and saw it this morning.
First things first... the print of the film which was shown was awful! Really grainy, and the image was shaking during the first reel of the movie. So that didn't help the enjoyment factor.
I have to agree with the "all right" factor of the film. It's not brilliant by any means, and did feel somewhat formulaic at times.
I saw Iron Man last week, which I think was a far more entertaining and fun movie.
Spielberg has been quoted as saying he would like to do another Indiana movie.
Let's hope if he does, he can make it a better movie than this one.
:thumbsdow
tha-dizzle
22-05-2008, 8:56 PM
Just got back from pics after seeing Indy 4 .................... its average at best. Infact its all pretty good until the end then it goes all abit weird!
Maybe i hyped it up to much but what else could i do. I heard they were going to make an Indy 5 if people wanted one and a do want another one and i want it done classic Indy style!!
Drop Ray Winstone that much i do know!
Max Payne
22-05-2008, 8:59 PM
Max would that be the scene where SPOILER:He swings in the trees with the monkeys?
Oh GOD yeah!
It was really,really dreadful and really uncalled for. I was actually felt it ruined most of the movie for me, it was that bad. I just kept thinking that it was Lucas' influence rather than Spielberg, but I really was squirming.
raigraphixs
22-05-2008, 9:14 PM
RT is at 80%, Fresh: 131 Rotten: 32 - so that encouraging, against all the negative reviews here :god:
Oh GOD yeah!
It was really,really dreadful and really uncalled for. I was actually felt it ruined most of the movie for me, it was that bad. I just kept thinking that it was Lucas' influence rather than Spielberg, but I really was squirming.
Spoiler:Fist thing i though when i saw it i thought he was auditioning for gladiators would be really good at hang tough:rotfl:
Also the CGI for that scene was bad and so obviously green screen.
Max Payne
22-05-2008, 9:44 PM
RT is at 80%, Fresh: 131 Rotten: 32 - so that encouraging, against all the negative reviews here :god:
I think you should wait till you see it yourself, before backing the postive reviews.
Russell_Piper
22-05-2008, 10:12 PM
Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear.
I feel robbed, pathetic film, kept looking at my watch.
How did the two richest directors in the world who had unlimited financial resources make a film like this?
I love a crappy movie but this was awful, have they even seen the other 3 Indiana Jones films?
I have seen better acting in a pantomime. When Marion is re-introduced I got the feeling she was waiting off set and someone said to her "that's your queue" and pushed her out (this is not a spoiler folks)
3/10 and that's generous.
tracertong
22-05-2008, 10:32 PM
Agree with what Russel said. Saw it tonight and my god could not wait for it to end. Story terrible , script terrible , acting terrible , special effects ok.
5/10 and thats for the effects.
No wonder connery turned it down after reading the scripts.
sore napper
22-05-2008, 11:02 PM
I just got back and I thought that it was alright, but some what weird.
It took me 5 minutes to settle into Ford who seemed that he had been practicing his lines too much, but after that, well he was fine.
The main problem with the movie is the fact that it was so not what I was expecting to see. I found it a little hard at first to settle into Indy set in the 50's, which if you ask me, is just wrong, but after a while it was fun and I enjoyed it.
The first hour flew in, but it went downhill after wards. I agree with others that there where things in the movie that were uncalled for and just plain stupid, alot of it just felt that they where trying to fill the 2 hours. The second hour did still have some good stuff.
Overall I did enjoy it. I'm not 10 years old any more and movies like these are for the younger generation. It was great to see Indy back on the big screen and I hope that we see another.
5/10 for the grown up in me.
7/10 for the kid in me.
rhcppepers
22-05-2008, 11:23 PM
Agree with what Russel said. Saw it tonight and my god could not wait for it to end. Story terrible , script terrible , acting terrible , special effects ok.
5/10 and thats for the effects.
No wonder connery turned it down after reading the scripts.
I have to say this is bad news. Is it really that bad?. I have not seen it yet so I will be going to watch it in hope rather than expectation.
OK, I went to see this today and thought I would post my impressions of the movie too. There wont be any spoilers for those who have yet to see it.
Indiana Jones and the Kingom of the Crystal Skull was a mixture of both nostalgic fun and frustration for me. Spielberg has made a reasonable attempt to capture the 80's style of the earlier films while also imbuing this one with more modern qualities. Overall though, for me, the film wasn't totally successful even if it did deliver most of what you would expect from the Franchise. Apparently, Spielberg spent years and years developing and re-writing the screenplay until he was happy with it but I find this hard to believe as the story doesn't seem that complex at all and follows the same basic narrative structure of "Raiders of the Lost Ark". There have been some complaints though, that the "exposition" is way too long and drags in places so maybe Spielberg did try a bit too hard trying to set up the motivation for the action of the second half of the movie. Personally, I found the supposedly "slower" more character-driven first half more enjoyable than the action packed second half. I'm showing my age I guess!! :rolleyes:
Harrison Ford is pretty good but to be brutally frank, he is looking a bit too old to play the part now. I think it may have been a good idea if they had dyed some of the grey out of his hair in an attempt to make him look 10 years younger and more convincing in the role. Ford still makes a pretty valiant attempt at re-treading his most famous role though and certainly throws himself (literally) into the part.
The film has an interesting, if not entirely original premise, plenty of action along the way and sticks quite close to the formula of the originals..e.g plenty of live stunts and minimal CGI. There was though, an element of the film feeling a bit forced and tired at times with a lot of the action seemingly thrown in just for the hell of it and at times I felt myself asking "how many moments of peril can a person survive?".
Overall...a disappointing addition to the franchise.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull *** out of *****
Gae
mooperman
23-05-2008, 8:06 AM
Well having seen it last night i have to say its a fantastic Indiana Action adventure....ALMOST......
I dont know what to say, i mean i loved every minute, every quip, every silly action sequence, every gruesome death and then that ****ing ending......!!!!!!!!!
really felt like Spielberg took a day off filming and Lucas did the ending.... it just broke it for me.... <spoiler>why on earth did they have to put a dodgy looking ****ing flying saucer in there of all things, and that HUGE shot of the Aliens face looking at the camera WHY OH WHY!!! gutted, really gutted!!<spoiler end>
it was a solid 9/10 for me but because of the ending i'm giving it a 4.5/10..:(:thumbsdow
Rohirrim
23-05-2008, 8:13 AM
I cant remember seeing so many reviews calling a film silly and disappointing. Far fetched plots are what I cant stomach and have watched plenty leaving me feel like i've wasted my money.
Last went to the cinema to see Ironman and didnt enjoy that as I thought it was silly, far fetched with plot holes. I was definately in a minority to think that so reading these reviews I will be saving my £10 and wait til it comes on tv one xmas.
hooray33
23-05-2008, 8:19 AM
I saw this last night at a (relatively empty) 930 showing at the Odeon in Huddersfield.
I'll echo some previous comments that it does indeed take a while to get used to Harrison ford in the role - I'm thinking if I'd seen him most recently in firewall say, not the original trilogy the adjustment may have been more smooth - however it wasn't until after the 1st 2 scenes that I felt comfortable with him. Again I agree that they should have maybe dyed his hair.
I walked out of the cinema and gave it 3/5. I was thinking if I was a kid would I have watched it again and again on video (like i did with the first 2 movies) and, yes, I would have. It does have all the requisite elements of an Indy picture - but unfortunately many of the traits of a (recent) Lucas effort also.
In conclusion it's an enjoyable enough romp, and a decent movie but certainly the weakest of the series.
*I actually support the sci-fi themes of the movie - It's no different in my eyes to using religion - and fits the 50's like a glove - it's just somewhat overcooked*
BenchyUK
23-05-2008, 8:40 AM
I'm not even going to go and see this at the cinema becuase of the bad reviews. I'll probably include it in the Blu-Ray box set with the other films, so i'll watch it then
Ashzilla
23-05-2008, 8:50 AM
Me and the mrs went to see this last night and we were both a little dissapointed. I find it realy hard to beleve that two great film directers Speilberg and Lucus have come up with this realy poor story.
spoiler:
There was cirtain bits in the film when i felt realy embarrassed for both of the directers the ending was one of them I got the feeling that they was trying to make this film to much like raiders
usagi13
23-05-2008, 8:58 AM
Went to see this yesterday afternoon. Thoroughly enjoyed it although I have to say that I agree with alot of the comments about the ending. The cinema was reasonably busy with lots of father/son pairs. Brought back fond memories as the first film my dad took me to see was Raiders of the Lost Ark... God I feel old now.
caz2005
23-05-2008, 9:16 AM
My girlfriend and I saw it yesterday. We were both really enjoying it, in fact, throughout the 1st half I thought it was fantastic, until........
When the main prop of the film appeared (I guess it's no spoiler saying the Crystal Skull :rolleyes:) I thought they'd bought it from poundland. It looked so awful it took credibility away and didn't allow for any escapism.
Then ofcourse SPOILER Mutt swinging through the jungle, the crappy CG Alien at the end (Who's skeletons looked plastic) and the Flying Saucer.
I'm all for the story line they took but as someone earlier said, they overcooked it a bit.......actually way too hard.
I've split my desicion
First Half 9/10
From the moment they find the main prop of the film 3/10
I also believe Lucas put some Lactose in Speilbergs coffee so when Speilberg took time off thinking he was ill George re-did the last 40 minutes. :rolleyes:
Max Payne
23-05-2008, 9:28 AM
My girlfriend and I saw it yesterday. We were both really enjoying it, in fact, throughout the 1st half I thought it was fantastic, until........
When the main prop of the film appeared (I guess it's no spoiler saying the Crystal Skull :rolleyes:) I thought they'd bought it from poundland. It looked so awful it took credibility away and didn't allow for any escapism.
Then ofcourse SPOILER Mutt swinging through the jungle, the crappy CG Alien at the end (Who's skeletons looked plastic) and the Flying Saucer.
I'm all for the story line they took but as someone earlier said, they overcooked it a bit.......actually way too hard.
I've split my desicion
First Half 9/10
From the moment they find the main prop of the film 3/10
I also believe Lucas put some Lactose in Speilbergs coffee so when Speilberg took time off thinking he was ill George re-did the last 40 minutes. :rolleyes:
That would actually be my opinion aswell I think as I was really enjoying the first half, but then it got stupid on so many levels.
I was thinking the same thing about the second half i.e. that Lucas has a huge input over, and it didn't work on so many levels.
I'd have to agree with many here, first half good, second half poor.
Ray Winstone was awful, but the plot/character didn't help him
I though Harrison Ford made a really good fist of a somewhat poor script, and played the role of an ageing Indy really well.
Spoilers : Surviving a nuclear blast in a fridge like that was comical, climbing out of it having been blown miles through the air. I know these movies are all about escapism but that was ridiculous. And the 'Tarzan' scene was total farce. End.
None-the-less, I was entertained, and that's what it's all about.
6.5/10
PoochJD
23-05-2008, 11:22 AM
Hi,
This is the review I posted on the IMDB yesterday... I gave it just 3 out of 10. :eek:
Oh my God! What a shocking and utterly awful sequel this movie is! I had reasonable expectations from the preview screening I went to on Wednesday night, at my local cinema, but boy, was I disappointed. :(
Firstly, there's little coherent plot. Yes, I know Indy has to return the Crystal Skull to its final resting place, but for 124 minutes, this does not maketh a movie.
Secondly, whilst the film has an interesting start, it soon falters, and goes rapidly downhill (in more ways than one, I might add) about 20-minutes in. This should be a great movie: it's got Indy back on the big screen, but with Marcus Brody (actor Denholm Elliot) and Jones, Senior (Sean Connery) out of the picture, there's few characters to care enough about, and with such a sorry excuse for a plot, all that is left is a series of extended action scenes, loosely strung together, that are neither overly exciting, nor particularly well-executed.
Which brings me onto the bug-bear that is CGI! The Indiana Jones series has never relied upon nor needed CGI effects. Okay, granted, that technology wasn't available to Spielberg and Co at the time, of the original Trilogy, so why use it now? Most of the CGI effects simply do not work. They look fake, simply because they are fake. Gone are the extraordinarily out-of-this-world animated effects ala the finale of "Raiders...". No longer are stunt crew needed, because everything and everyone can now be modified inside a computer. And therein lies one of the films issues: just because CGI can be used, doesn't mean it should be used! The scenes involving the deadly Red Ants; the death-by-rocket-engine of some Russian soldiers, and the discovery of the actual Skull's mystical powers at the start of the movie, are all executed by CGI, and they look hideous! It's not that the effects are bad, because they aren't. However, they don't fit in, alongside the historical nature of the Indiana Jones series. The blend is akin to oil and water. It simply doesn't work.
As far as the acting goes, Ford is competent, but his age and vocal abilities are no longer what they need to be, which is a shame, because I can't think of anyone else who could (or should) ever take the role over. Cate Blanchett as the villain, is reasonable, but never really makes her character evil enough to warrant our caring whether she kills Indy or not. As for John Hurt and Ray Winstone, two of the greatest British actors of recent years, are criminally wasted, in roles that neither suit nor are worth filling by their talent. Hurt's is the worst of all. At times, he is merely there as a token gesture, and in all honesty, the role could have been taken on by a hundred other actors, even no-name ones.
With regards to Shia LaBeouf, he is shockingly inept, devoid of any characterisation, and is simply a joke in this film. And a poor one, at that. One of the worst acting roles I've ever seen, with no redeeming features whatsoever. If he is to be a future big screen star, he needs to start learning how to act. Simply going through the motions, with as many facial expressions as a Botoxed-corpse, will not get you far.
And now, we come to the great Marion Ravenwood, aka actress Karen Allen. What happened to the old Marion?! Her feistyness seems to have been diluted, and all we get here, is a slightly angry woman. I can't say too much, as I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but her return is not a cause for celebration. Her interaction with LaBeouf's character, is not convincing on an emotional level, and is ultimately wasted in the film, because she is underused.
Lastly, I have to express my utter disappointment, at what should be a good movie. it soon becomes apparent, that the film is going nowhere fast, and it will dawn on all of you, that what you are seeing on screen is simply unbelievable! The stunts and action scenes are drawn out, to the point that they are simply by-the-numbers. As for stretching credibility, this film does that a lot. And I mean A LOT! The die-hard fans may be able to forgive Spielberg's lacklustre script and direction, but even by fantastical adventure movie standards, this movie pushes too far the realms of plausibility, so that it is nothing more than an expensive and overlong joke. If you can make it through to the stunning "revelation" about the origins and necessity of the Crystal Skull without your jaw dropping to the floor, then you really have no sense of cinematic decency! Simply put, this is a very bad Indiana Jones film - probably the worst of the series. It's an inept Spielberg movie, and may harm his future career. Even as a standalone action film, it's dire. This is not worth wasting your time on at a cinema. Wait for a DVD release instead.
Spectacularly awful.... in every way imaginable. How can someone so good at directing, fail so miserably on one of the most beloved franchises in cinema history? Do not even bother with Indy V, please!
Pooch
Max Payne
23-05-2008, 11:47 AM
It's an inept Spielberg movie, and may harm his future career. Even as a standalone action film, it's dire. This is not worth wasting your time on at a cinema. Wait for a DVD release instead.
Spectacularly awful.... in every way imaginable. How can someone so good at directing, fail so miserably on one of the most beloved franchises in cinema history? Do not even bother with Indy V, please![/I]
Pooch
A friend of mine who is a HUGE Star Wars and Indy fan watched it last night and thought it was awful, but I think we agree when he said that quite simply its Spielbergs worst film of his career.
Russell_Piper
23-05-2008, 11:49 AM
Excellent post Pooch, I think you have summed up my feelings exactly, and much more articulately than I could.
It was poop.
Stockholm
23-05-2008, 11:52 AM
This iteration of Indy should be consigned to one of the wooden boxes that they keep locked up in the top secret government installation that houses all the other relics.
It's an embarrassing and cringeworthy effort. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
The action was absolutely beyond believable. I knew it was really going to suck hard when...
Indy survived an atomic blast by hiding in a fridge....Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. He'd instantly combust despite being in a fridge! The pressure generated by the blast would kill him. If, somehow, that didn't, being propelled through the air and landing with the force that he did would easily kill him. And we haven't even mentioned radiation yet.
Tumbling over two powerful waterfalls and not exiting the jeep and perishing....Riiiiiiiiiight.
Monkeys that somehow know who to attack.......Ok, then!
The plot is inconsequential and, therefore, irrelevant. The action is contrived and beyond belief. And, basically, the entire movie is absolutely shocking.
Avoid.
ps Indy's cheesy and mushy quips to Marion were terrible. And the ending is, well, vomit-inducing. I'm certain that Indy is senile in this movie. He couldn't even piece together the evidence despite the fact that he was holding it, and his explanation of the origin of the skull was absurd. What, exactly, does Indy think bone is made of? It certainly isn't crystal!
Lezman
23-05-2008, 11:54 AM
Despite all these poor reviews, and my friend who simply said it was a bit better than Episode I and about the same as the Mummy, I still cannot wait to see this.
I really want to like it, although I expect I won't so much.
R1PLEY
23-05-2008, 12:07 PM
avplay give it a pretty good review :confused:
mooperman
23-05-2008, 12:14 PM
i think your all being WAY to harsh... i mean like i said, i loved most of the movie, just then ending was naff....
all the spoilered bits mentioned by stockholm, get a grip man, he went through worse in the previous Indie films and nobody had a problem then, its an INDIANA JONES movie, your supposed to suspend your belief....:suicide:
PoochJD, i thought your review was overly harsh as well....
although all that being said, the ending was just a step to far for me....:rolleyes:
mooperman
23-05-2008, 12:19 PM
A friend of mine who is a HUGE Star Wars and Indy fan watched it last night and thought it was awful, but I think we agree when he said that quite simply its Spielbergs worst film of his career.
The Terminal....:eek:
R1PLEY
23-05-2008, 12:41 PM
The Terminal....:eek:
Jurassic Park 2 was pretty dire.
featherhall
23-05-2008, 12:56 PM
After reading the reviews on here (of which I trust), I think I am going to leave this. I was due to go on Tuesday, but it sounds absolutely ridiculous.
Sounds as though Lucas has successfully managed to do what he did to the Star Wars franchise, and that is murder it.
The sad thing is he seems to of brought Spielberg down to his level nowadays which is sad.
I'll remember the original trilogy I think as the classics that they are.
featherhall
23-05-2008, 12:57 PM
Jurassic Park 2 was pretty dire.
agreed. forgot about that one.
The Terminal was pretty good given the subject, but far from a classic.
mooperman
23-05-2008, 12:59 PM
After reading the reviews on here (of which I trust), I think I am going to leave this. I was due to go on Tuesday, but it sounds absolutely ridiculous.
Sounds as though Lucas has successfully managed to do what he did to the Star Wars franchise, and that is murder it.
The sad thing is he seems to of brought Spielberg down to his level nowadays which is sad.
I'll remember the original trilogy I think as the classics that they are.
you should go see it and make your own mind up matey, its not half as bad as this forum has made it out to be.... Its a solid Indy action adventure movie that does get a bit silly at the end but prior to that its great.... I would even go so far as to say that until the ending it was my film of the year...
Russell_Piper
23-05-2008, 1:12 PM
I would even go so far as to say that until the ending it was my film of the year...
Were the other films you saw Care Bears the Movie and My Little Pony Fights Back?
mooperman
23-05-2008, 1:17 PM
Were the other films you saw Care Bears the Movie and My Little Pony Fights Back?
very clever reply :rolleyes:
AgentCool
23-05-2008, 1:22 PM
Britain's moodiest film critic, the Daily Mail's Chris Tookey, has given Crystal Skull a rare 4-stars in today's paper which surprised me given his most common verdict is the legendary Turkey (which, incidentally, the other three films reviewed this week were awarded). Unfortunately, I won't be able to see the film until Monday but it has received enough positive reviews to virtually guarantee I won't be disappointed. For the record, I'm not expecting anything as good as Raiders which is as close to adventure cinema perfection anyone is ever likely to get.
Bill Hicks
23-05-2008, 1:27 PM
I have just returned from seeing it, and I must have seen a completely different film than most of you posters, cos I thought it was excellent! In fact I couldn't find fault at all with this film (Except Mutt's Tarzan bit which was a bit cringing!) So far a lot of the criticism i've read sounds like a load of moaning coming from people who were expecting a carbon copy of an 80's Indy flick. Well hello, Harrison Ford is in his mid sixties, so to play him as he was 20 years ago would have been ridiculous. In fact that is what I enjoyed about this film was that they portrayed him as a man in advanced years. Indy is after all human who suffers aches & bruising like the rest of us. "It's not the years, it's the milleage!" he once said. So he survives a atom bomb by hiding in a fridge. Well didn't he survive a submarine voyage by holding his breath in Raiders!
If you want to find fault, then you will. Just take your seat expecting to be entertained and you surely will be.
8/10 for me.:smashin:
mooperman
23-05-2008, 1:30 PM
I have just returned from seeing it, and I must have seen a completely different film than most of you posters cos I thought it was excellent! In fact I couldn't find fault at all with this film (Except Mutt's Tarzan bit which was a bit cringing!) So far a lot of the criticism i've read sounds like a load of moaning coming from people who were expecting a carbon copy of the 80's Indy flicks. Well hello, Harrison Ford is in his mid sixties, so to play him as he was 20 years ago would have been ridiculous. In fact that is what I enjoyed about this film was that they portrayed him as a man in advanced years. Indy is after all human who suffers aches & bruising like the rest of us. "It's not the years, it's the milleage!" So he survives a atom bomb by hiding in a fridge. Well didn't he survive a submarine voyage by holding his breath in Raiders?
If you want to find fault, then you will. Just take your seat expecting to be entertained and you surely will..
8/10 for me.:smashin:
thank you and i agree mostly but do you not think that <spoiler> when they flying saucer comes up it looks awful!?<spoiler end>
Bill Hicks
23-05-2008, 1:36 PM
thank you and i agree mostly but do you not think that <spoiler> when they flying saucer comes up it looks awful!?<spoiler end>
I haven't included anything that hasn't already been mentioned on this post already.
But accept my apologies all the same:)
hooray33
23-05-2008, 1:38 PM
What is it with Spielberg and the 'shiny' CG effects around the actors? I thought it was a stylistic choice when first implemented in Minority Report
but it was really distracting in this film - particularly in the Jungle chase sequence.
I would much prefer to watch a movie shot on location with good old fashioned stunts. It used to be irksome when a bluescreen moment appeared in a film - but greenscreen seems even more apparent.
Used in small amounts when required CGI can look fantastic (Jurassic Park) but overdone ruins the experience for me (StarWars EP1/2/3).
mooperman
23-05-2008, 1:48 PM
I haven't included anything that hasn't already been mentioned on this post already.
But accept my apologies all the same:)
ermm, i think you mis read my post, i wasnt accusing you of spoiling anything, highlight the bit between the spoiler... i was saying i agree with your review except for the ending which i didnt like at all...:)
PoochJD
23-05-2008, 2:29 PM
Mooperman,
Maybe I have been harsh on this film, and you are perfectly entitled to that opinion (of my review). However, do you not think that:
MAJOR SPOILERS - DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET
- LaBeouf's acting was pedestrian? (the constant combing of his hair; trying to ape Marlon Brando in "The Wild One"; his trying to be a hard-assed punk, when his character's clearly a bit of muppet; his lame attempts at stealing in the early cafe meeting sequence)
- Marion's character was reduced from being a female opposite worthy of Jones in "Raiders", to a rather demure and downtrodden women, who couldn't punch her way out of a wet paper bag, let alone contemplate marrying Jones after such a long, long time?
- The fact that Indy survives a nuclear bomb test, AND the fridge-landing, AND radiation poisoning, AND three very deadly waterfalls, AND multiple gunshots, AND overcomes his fear of snakes in 30-seconds, whilst being rescued from the quicksand pit, all combine to make this the most unbelievably far-fetched movie ever made, even bearing in mind all the previous films in the serious? (Hell, even Arnold Schwarzenegger, James Bond, Steven Siegel and Tony Soprano could never survive that little lot! :rotfl: )
- That Cate Blanchett's Russian villainess was rather weak, and not particularly evil, and her character is killed-off about 2/3rds into the film, leaving no big ending possible?
- That the wedding of Jones and Marion was a complete cop-out, and then Mutt getting Jones's hat, which conveniently leads into Indiana Jones V?
- That John Hurt was criminally wasted in this film, who appeared to be mentally-disturbed, yet was suddenly able to give profound speeches about alien beings coming "from the space between space)? And, he looked more like Gandalf The Wizard out of "Lord Of The Rings", than an ex patient from an asylum?!
- The use of CGI to aid the stunts, was just farcical? (Completely out of tone with the previous trilogy, and made to look even lamer, when "Casino Royale" opens with stunts performed by real actors, doing free-running that is far, far, FAR more dangerous than the stuff done in Indy IV?)
- We're expected to believe Mutt would really be able to fight-off Blanchett's Russian lady character, help Indy, help his own mother, and sword-fight a better opponent, whilst straddling two moving vehicles, in a jungle environment, and still maintain his balance in spite of being constantly hit in the nether-regions by jungle bushes, tree stumps, etc, etc?
- That ANYONE would survive a nuclear blast, or going over three huge waterfalls?
- That a jeep could realistically land on a giant palm tree, bend forwards to counter-balance the vehicle's weight, and then collapse to the ground, without injuring anyone?
- That a rocket launcher wouldn't deafen and/or temporarily blind anyone sitting either side of it, whilst in a moving vehicle?
END OF SPOILERS
All of the above happens in the movie you appear to love. And yet, whilst I can suspend my disbelief for most movies, there still has to be some kind of real-world realism to it. And Indiana Jones IV had no realism at all. It was all material, that simply could not happen, and hence, it became a parody of itself, requiring the audience to forgive too many impossible scenarios and implausabilities. :eek: That's a one-way ticket to cinema-audience-suicide! :suicide:
That's why I slated the movie! It tried to cram too much, without any justifications for it. There wasn't a plot. The villains were about as evil as Sooty. And none of the characters are likeable, so the audience can't root for anyone, and hence, we can't invest any emotions on them. Ultimately, we don't care if anyone lives or dies!
And if a movie turns off its audience, then that movie has failed badly! :(
Okay, points all made, and I'll now shut up. ;)
Pooch
hooray33
23-05-2008, 2:52 PM
Listen, it's as far fetched as the comics or Saturday afternoon matinees it's based on sure. I have grievences with most of the points you raise to various degrees. I can't however understand the Shia backlash. I think he's more than competent given the paper thin character he's given to portray and have enjoyed his performances in every film he's been in.
Donnacha
23-05-2008, 2:57 PM
I got a text from my brother who went to see it last night and had been counting the days to its release he's such an Indy fan, claiming that it was "absolute horse****, worse than the Phantom Menance and made Tomb Raider look like an Oscar contender"......doesn't bode well for my viewing on Sunday!
mooperman
23-05-2008, 3:01 PM
Mooperman,
Maybe I have been harsh on this film, and you are perfectly entitled to that opinion (of my review). However, do you not think that:
MAJOR SPOILERS - DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET
- LaBeouf's acting was pedestrian? (the constant combing of his hair; trying to ape Marlon Brando in "The Wild One"; his trying to be a hard-assed punk, when his character's clearly a bit of muppet; his lame attempts at stealing in the early cafe meeting sequence)
nah i didnt think it was that bad, it was more of a nervous twitch type thing i thought, he did ok..
- Marion's character was reduced from being a female opposite worthy of Jones in "Raiders", to a rather demure and downtrodden women, who couldn't punch her way out of a wet paper bag, let alone contemplate marrying Jones after such a long, long time?
yeah that was a bit wet, but still, its a minor issue.
- The fact that Indy survives a nuclear bomb test, AND the fridge-landing, AND radiation poisoning, AND three very deadly waterfalls, AND multiple gunshots, AND overcomes his fear of snakes in 30-seconds, whilst being rescued from the quicksand pit, all combine to make this the most unbelievably far-fetched movie ever made, even bearing in mind all the previous films in the serious? (Hell, even Arnold Schwarzenegger, James Bond, Steven Siegel and Tony Soprano could never survive that little lot! :rotfl: )
the fact that Indy escapes a tomb in raiders by pushing over a statue that just happens to release the rock by the airfield in raiders or the fact that indy and short round escape a plummeting plane with a life raft in temple of doom...???
- That Cate Blanchett's Russian villainess was rather weak, and not particularly evil, and her character is killed-off about 2/3rds into the film, leaving no big ending possible?
she was killed at the end just before the god awful saucer took off..??
- That the wedding of Jones and Marion was a complete cop-out, and then Mutt getting Jones's hat, which conveniently leads into Indiana Jones V?
no i think you got this bit wrong, Indy took the hat off Mutt suggesting "not yet ready" type-a-thing....
- That John Hurt was criminally wasted in this film, who appeared to be mentally-disturbed, yet was suddenly able to give profound speeches about alien beings coming "from the space between space)? And, he looked more like Gandalf The Wizard out of "Lord Of The Rings", than an ex patient from an asylum?!
he was a wasted actor, but still, how much more was there for him to do, i hated the movie from the moment he said "they're hyper dimensional beings" :suicide:
- The use of CGI to aid the stunts, was just farcical? (Completely out of tone with the previous trilogy, and made to look even lamer, when "Casino Royale" opens with stunts performed by real actors, doing free-running that is far, far, FAR more dangerous than the stuff done in Indy IV?)
again i think youve over reacted, the CGI wasnt to bad at all except for the horrible horrible part with the really naff CGI alien close up at the end....:suicide:
- We're expected to believe Mutt would really be able to fight-off Blanchett's Russian lady character, help Indy, help his own mother, and sword-fight a better opponent, whilst straddling two moving vehicles, in a jungle environment, and still maintain his balance in spite of being constantly hit in the nether-regions by jungle bushes, tree stumps, etc, etc?
its an Indy film.... are we to believe that in Raiders he fights off most of the Nazi's, in TOD he completely kills of a huge sword weilding, heart ripping out cult and in LC he takes his dad diary back off Hitler.... all acceptable yet you have a problem with a sword fight.....:rolleyes:
- That ANYONE would survive a nuclear blast, or going over three huge waterfalls?
INDIANA JONES MOVIE... he's goes out of a plane, down a mountain and over a waterfall in a poxy inflateable raft at the beginning of TOD...:rolleyes:
- That a jeep could realistically land on a giant palm tree, bend forwards to counter-balance the vehicle's weight, and then collapse to the ground, without injuring anyone?
a bit far fetched sure, but i say again, INDIANA JONES movie, and it landed in the water ultimately anyways.....
- That a rocket launcher wouldn't deafen and/or temporarily blind anyone sitting either side of it, whilst in a moving vehicle?
true in real life it would, but think about the end of LC when he jams the rock into the tanks gun and the guy in the tank is fine aside from being covered in smoke....
just to say again though, i thought this move was great up until Hurts "hyper dimensional beings" line and then it was just awful.... the whole saucer coming up out the ground ruined what shouldve been a good action adventure movie but i was embarrassed for it...
END OF SPOILERS
All of the above happens in the movie you appear to love. And yet, whilst I can suspend my disbelief for most movies, there still has to be some kind of real-world realism to it. And Indiana Jones IV had no realism at all. It was all material, that simply could not happen, and hence, it became a parody of itself, requiring the audience to forgive too many impossible scenarios and implausabilities. :eek: That's a one-way ticket to cinema-audience-suicide! :suicide:
That's why I slated the movie! It tried to cram too much, without any justifications for it. There wasn't a plot. The villains were about as evil as Sooty. And none of the characters are likeable, so the audience can't root for anyone, and hence, we can't invest any emotions on them. Ultimately, we don't care if anyone lives or dies!
And if a movie turns off its audience, then that movie has failed badly! :(
Okay, points all made, and I'll now shut up. ;)
Pooch
i have answered inside your spoiler quotes so not to ruin it for anyone else, but as you can see i liked it until a certain point...
me and the gf weant to see this last night,
by far the worst of the series, absolute terrible.. i was expecting so much more.
.. what does everyone else think of that monkey scene?
POSSIBLE SPOILER
Shia Labeouf suddenly transforms into tarzan, swinging from branches through the forest,... then manages to land back on the jeep at the other side... oh please, what was Steven thinking?
pretty much most of the action scenes made me cringe,.. and was so fed up with the story towards the end, i wanted them all to get killed off.
.. going to go and watch The Last Crusade to put me back on good terms with Indy.
4/10
IndianaBlues
23-05-2008, 4:23 PM
.. what does everyone else think of that monkey scene?
...oh please, what was Steven thinking?
I wouldn't be surprised if that was Mr Lucas' hand...after all, haven't we all seen another of his sequels where one of the heroes swings from a vine, accompanied by cute furry allies, to attack an enemy vehicle???:rolleyes:
On the whole I liked it, although there were four scenes that, even in suspended belief mode, I thought were a bit OTT
1) Fridge
2) Duelling on vehicles...just how smooth was that jungle floor?!!!
3) Tarzan
4) From "show me everything" onwards.
Having said that, I'd better go again next week just to make sure ;)
emporer
23-05-2008, 6:08 PM
After reading peoples thoughts here I was in two minds to see it or not, went this morning and its a solid Indy movie, I think people go too far with moaning about the ending etc, but how flippin far fetched is the holy grail and a 700 year old knight? or the ark? certainly no more than this.
If anyone enjoys Indy films for a good bit of old school adventure stuff then you'll like this.
Army Bloke
23-05-2008, 6:27 PM
If anyone enjoys Indy films for a good bit of old school adventure stuff then you'll like this.
That has to be THE most sensible sentence in this whole post - well done!!
In the world of Indy films, it's not as good as Raiders, pees all over Temple and is nearly as good as Crusade - so it's not the worst of the four, by any stretch of the imigination.
I actually loved it and was on the edge of my seat up until the last twenty minutes...which, I will admit, did make me mark the film below Crusade.
There's a lot of in-accurate posted here as well, which makes the film seem worse than it actually is. SPOILERFor starters, in my opinion, IT WASN'T set up for a sequel right at the end - Harrison Ford had the hat on and Shia didn't even pick it up...SPOILER
As for cheesy and unbelievable...remember the first time YOU saw a man with a whip chased by a giant boulder through loads of booby traps to be met by natives with blow pipes...?
Unbelievable eh...?;):grin:
MrFurious
23-05-2008, 9:37 PM
i just got back from watching it and i loved it, and im a huge indy fan, wore the jacket and shirt to the cinema, didnt get any wierd looks:smashin:
I thought the film was superbly paced and the humour spot on, also the fights were great with good old indy punches being thrown, oh and this was great,SPOILERwhen indy gave the classic han solo line" ive got a bad feeling about this" i had a huge grin on my face ,love it:grin:
go see it and judge for yourself
dazza1011
23-05-2008, 11:50 PM
That has to be THE most sensible sentence in this whole post - well done!!
In the world of Indy films, it's not as good as Raiders, pees all over Temple and is nearly as good as Crusade - so it's not the worst of the four, by any stretch of the imigination.
I actually loved it and was on the edge of my seat up until the last twenty minutes...which, I will admit, did make me mark the film below Crusade.
There's a lot of in-accurate posted here as well, which makes the film seem worse than it actually is. SPOILERFor starters, in my opinion, IT WASN'T set up for a sequel right at the end - Harrison Ford had the hat on and Shia didn't even pick it up...no he doesnt have the hat on as he has just got married the doors open and the hat goes to mutts feet he picks it up but indy takes it off himSPOILER
As for cheesy and unbelievable...remember the first time YOU saw a man with a whip chased by a giant boulder through loads of booby traps to be met by natives with blow pipes...?
Unbelievable eh...?;):grin:
with regards to inaccurate posting i have put in the spoiler text what happened.
i have just come back and i am very disappointed not speilberg's greatest film:( so wanted to like it but came away feeling let down it was just too long and a lot of the action scenes looked as though it was made as an advert for a theme park ride
Stockholm
24-05-2008, 1:07 AM
Mooperman
I accept that previous iterations of Indy contain far-fetched events. Indeed, in previous versions of Indy I chuckled at some of the unbelievable things Indy and his gang got up to. I just didn’t like - or even enjoy - the events we were asked to go along with in this version of Indy. As the film went on the unbelievable events just got more grating and tiring.
That’s just my experience, however. I’m not denigrating your view of the same: If you derived pleasure from it then that’s good.
The audience I watched it with, however, laughed at moments that were intended by Spielberg to heighten tension and excitement. Mocking laughter filled the theatre during the jungle scenes involving telepathic monkeys and Shia LaBeouf. Heck, the guy next to me turned and rolled his eyes. I just laughed.
I also have a complaint about how Jones was written in this episode of Indy. For a professor he seemed to struggle to make straightforward connections even when he had the evidence at hand.
I actually had to fight to stay awake at some points during the film, and I went to the toilet twice to make sure I wouldn’t fall asleep.
As I said, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
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Bill Hicks
24-05-2008, 3:58 AM
I can't believe what I'm reading here. A lot of the comments regarding this film are becoming unintentionally funny! We need to put this into perspective. The title of this film is Indiana Jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull! In this film we see Indy escape certain death in a whole manner of ridiculous ways. Look at the films title. The story is unbelievable with moments of pure incredulity. Once again look at the films title. The baddies are one dimensional comic book villians. Has anyone seen the republic serials on which all the Indy films are based where the bad guys always wore black and spoke with foreign accents! This is a popcorn film that's designed as a piece of escapist entertainment. It's not the story of Jesus!
Army Bloke
24-05-2008, 7:13 AM
with regards to inaccurate posting i have put in the spoiler text what happened.
i have just come back and i am very disappointed not speilberg's greatest film:( so wanted to like it but came away feeling let down it was just too long and a lot of the action scenes looked as though it was made as an advert for a theme park ride
I wasn't digging at any individual mate...if you didn't like it then fine...each to their own.
If we all liked the same stuff, wouldn't the world be a boring place...?
Spielberg goes through phases when he makes his movies...to be honest, I can't remember the last film he made (Munich maybe...?). This film is made in exactly the same style as that and War Of The Worlds - overblown contrast and colours to give you the impression you are in the past...the fight scene outside the diner could have come straight from Happy Days...
it wasn't Spielbergs best by any stretch of the imigination. Remember how old you where when you saw the first one, look at the certificate and think of the target audience...all the adult jokes are then a bonus...:thumbsup:
I care little about the realism aspect. Little about the jokes and cringe moments.
All those things are Indy. You can argue that it's easier to believe in the power of God than Aliens but that's not true.
What annoyed me, upset me, ruined it for me, is that the hot rod at the beginning seemed to be the only thing capable of moving through it's gears.
The film never got out of second.
sore napper
24-05-2008, 9:18 AM
It's amazing me that there are so many negative reviews coming in from people. I gave it 5/10, but I'm really fussy. I gave Transformers 2/10, Ironman 4/10 and AvP-R 0/10.
If your an Indy fan, you will enjoy the movie, but at times you'll just feel disappointed by some aspects of it.
I would like to add that although the second half of the movie was poor, the final set piece was amazing looking and I left the cinema with a bit of that wow factor.
I would like to add that although the second half of the movie was poor, the final set piece was amazing looking and I left the cinema with a bit of that wow factor.
It did look amazing. But so did the end of the Mummy Returns and X-Files. Both of which did it better IMO.
MrFurious
24-05-2008, 11:22 AM
telepathic monkeys????? must of missed that part as all i saw was a comedy moment of a monkey looking at shia??
Army Bloke
24-05-2008, 11:32 AM
telepathic monkeys????? must of missed that part as all i saw was a comedy moment of a monkey looking at shia??
My point about innacurate postings making the film sound worse than it is...:rolleyes:
signs
24-05-2008, 11:33 AM
I went to see this last night ,I would give it 5/10 shame really, i don't know what i was expecting , but it wasnt this :( (i new nothing of the story line before i went)
And if I'm honest the picture quality at our cinema (cineworld) is pretty poor compared with what i can achieve at home
sore napper
24-05-2008, 11:44 AM
And if I'm honest the picture quality at our cinema (cineworld) is pretty poor compared with what i can achieve at home
Someone else complained about the PQ at a cinema near them. My nearest cinema has recently been done up and its the best that I've ever been to. The picture and sound quality where excellent.
One thing that I did noticed about the movie was that I seen a few scratches from time to time, but that might just have been the film that this cinema happened to be showing.
I had to laugh at myself during the movie, during one scene someone came up behind Indy with a gun and pulled the trigger back. I looked behind me in the cinema when this happened. The surround sound was amazing. I have surround sound at home, but near have I ever experienced that.
As I said, the local cinema has just been done up, and probably for the first time the