Humax PVR-9200T Firmware 1.00.10 Feeback

[mcompton69]

I have just upgraded to the latest firmware, which is not available over the air yet, only via a PC upgrade (which is much easier and safer than you think for those who are a bit apprehensive).

I thought i would start off a thread to see if there are actually any faults with this version - i have read a number of posts to say there doesnt seem to be anything wrong with it, but considering the number of additional features i would have expected more problems.

My feedback so far is that the new features are very useful (sorting recordings , selecting multi recordings to delete , 5 channels in EPG list ).

However, i seem to have problems copying some of the recordings made prior to the fw upgrade (although i have also successfully transferred some of these older recordings, so it cannot be purely the fw that is to blame). I have never had any problems copying files over USB before now .

Any one got anything else to report?

[PhilipL]

Hi

Lots of discussions over here already for version 10 that has been out a while now: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/f...play.php?f=119 and here http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/inde...showtopic=1778

Currently everyone is waiting for the next update that will include Freeview Playback spec, but it keeps being delayed.

Regards

Phil

[Paul Shirley]

1.00.10 substantially improved my USB transfer success rate, around 90% of attempts now succeed. AFAIK they did exactly no work on actually fixing the USB implementation, its just a side effect of optimising other parts of the firmware. Working on the PC side might help, install the latest version of eLinker (or better use one of the 3rd party versions) and the other hacks (raise priority, keep the PC idle etc.).

Otherwise 1.00.10 is a work-in-progress snapshot, mostly UI hackery but they've papered over more of the known bugs. Papered over because they've not actually fixed the underlying bugs, just tried to plug all the ways of triggering them. And failed like in every other release to date

Its now harder to cause recordings to fail but also harder to avoid the bug because no-one seems to know what sequence of programming causes it. PIP - just avoid it till they fix the horrendous space loss it can cause. Powering down the machine at least once a week will help it load the full EPG, it leaks memory if you leave it powered up.

The core design error where overlapped timers on the same channel aren't resolved properly (they just drop the second event instead of reallocating the channel) remains and will cause disasters with Freview Playback's new features if they continue to ignore the problem. Humax are very good at ignoring causes and trying to fix just the symptoms...

[Markypants]

Do people think they are holding back the OTA until they can implement the freeview playback?

[Gadget Daddy]

whats freeview playback

also what other things are thy rumoured to be in the next upgrade to the 9200

Pete

[Ico.]

Just wish they would hurry up with the OTA as the latest broadcast one is .06 and a year old but keeps being trotted out...

So as a Mac user (who has tried to get some emulation software to work without any luck) I'm still stuck with .06 and infequent bursts of the TISR bug.

[ralfchip]

I agree with PeteB! What's Freeview Playback?

[marcdavis]

There is a little FAQ on it here: http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/inde...showtopic=4519

There is a software update to be made available to all 9200t owners to make their machines Freeview playback compliant end of next week on the Humax web site. Its a free upgrade ut you may have to register on their web site. This software is also in production machines now and will be available in new machines bought in the shops these days more and more. Humax have said they plan to broadcast software over the air through the DTG next month which will take care of bringing up to date the rest of their entire 9200t customer base. Aparantly this update may also include series link if its ready in time too - I wouldnt get your hopes up.

[PhilipL]

Hi

Well currently the new firmware for the Humax 9200 appears to be not worth the wait:

1) EPG slow loading issues, and no loading at all if you are watching a recording - not fixed.
2) Accurate recording means you miss the end of recordings! There is no option to use padding if the TV channel doesn't support accurate recording, and a lot don't currently and some never will. You can of course switch back to not using accurate recording and just padding, meaning the new firmware has given you nothing at all!
3) What other bugs are introduced waiting to catch us out?

It seems the Freeview Playback logo means little in terms of extra functionality and better usability. Very disappointing, lots of discussion over at http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/f...play.php?f=119.

Regards

Phil

[Paul Shirley]

If early reports of Humax documentation of the 'Accurate Recording' implementation are accurate I find it interesting what's not being said. Specifically they document which recording will be started first in the event of a 3 way collision but yet again don't specify if the unlucky 3rd event will be performed at all. Ideally the 9200 should kick off that last recording late, losing the start but grabbing what it can.

We've had a variant of this since the box launched, where it tries exactly once to start each recording and simply gives up if it can't get the tuner it wants. Humax believed they could always avoid that possibility by checking for conflicts as you set them, they've proved over and over again to be incompetent at that particular task. 'Accurate Recording' guarantees collisions and its feels suspiciously like they've still not bothered dealing with the issue

[Ico.]

I'm still on .06 (no new OTA) and have a recording problem that has cropped up more than once, missing a programme last week much to my wifes annoyance. The start of a series that she ghas been waiting for.

I set the programme to record using the guide say 10 minutes before it started, then started to watch another channel. Half an hour into the programme I wanted to record I noticed that the little rec icon was not lit and no rcording had taken place.

I had no other recordings scheduled. And it's not the 1st time this has happened either

[Alan B]

Missed recordings - this is an issue if you use the start time padding (ie start recording 3 minutes before it is due). If you then select a program via EPG but within the 3 minutes before it is due to start, the software isn't clever enough to realise that it should start recording (as the start time has already passed). Humax response to this was a little unhelpful -

"The issue you speak of is not a fault, it is entirely logical that if you set a recording that starts in under 3 minutes while you have the auto padding set to start 3 minutes early that the recording will not be made, as it is impossible for the unit to gain those minutes before the program is scheduled to start. In order to take advantage of the auto padding you must set the program to record within the added time frame or use the instant recording feature."

Basically it is very difficult to start to record a program within the start padding time period (if you set one).