Audyssey Eq Pro AV Forums Power Buy. Big discount available here

[Rob Sinden]

<img src="http://www.avforums.com/news/images/2007031405301.jpg" align="right">Available for a limited time only and exclusive to AV Forums members:
The Audyssey EQ Pro and Set up kit

Until now only the world’s finest home cinemas have benefited from professional room correction. Regardless of the audio equipment used, this inevitably leads to compromised sound quality as the characteristics of the room spoil the systems performance.

The skills and equipment required to correctly optimise a system are something that until now has not been available in the UK. The Audyssey’s EQ Pro room correction system is a break through product that brings a level of performance and consistency that has never been possible to any home cinema system.

Do not confuse the Audyssey Eq Pro with the simple equalisation circuits in products such as Meridian, Lexicon and TAG and many subwoofers that have limited effect on the bass only. This is a full range unit that corrects all frequencies and the time domain of signals in all channels with incredible accuracy. In the bass channels alone the Audyssey Eq Pro makes up to 8000 corrections where required.

Here are the problems that the Audyssey will fix.

NO BASS KICK – If you cannot FEEL bass at the listening position, this is usually due to the bass wave of your speakers/sub meeting the reflected wave that bounces off the rear wall. This cancels certain bass frequencies at the listening position – the result is missing detail and no bass kick.

BOOMY BASS – Listening to say a drum or a gun shot, the sound you will hear will be a boom and not snap. This is due to standing waves at low frequency when the length of the bass wave is the same as one the dimensions of your listening room. The echoes that this creates mean you effectively hear the same sound many times. This spoils the dynamics of bass and as these echoes are heard late also the timing in music.

POOR IMAGING & LOSS OF DETAIL - Usually due to excessive absorption or reflection of mid/high frequencies by the surfaces in the room or poor speaker locations.

TONAL ERRORS - Instruments and voices simply aren't convincing - try listening to a piano or close mike'd vocals in a movie. This is typically due to too much reflection or absorption at the front of the room, poor speaker locations or uneven surfaces in the room. Even where the best acoustically transparent screens are placed in front of speakers, the improvements in sound quality with the addition of the EQ Pro are dramatic.

LACK OF 360 DEGREE SOUNDFIELD – If you simply don’t feel like you are listening in the environment that the film or concert was made in …. Turn the EQ Pro off and the soundstage collapses and it will sound like you are listening to stereo!

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What’s Being Said about the Audyssey EQ Pro

“One of the biggest breakthroughs in reproduced sound in the home. It is that good!” Audioholics

“A startling achievement! The evenness, balance, and natural sound of bass, midrange, and treble may be the best I have heard.” Home Entertainment

“Absolutely amazing! Balance, delays, image, stage—all perfect. I hear no phase errors, no artefacts, no creepy dynamic image shifting. None at all.” Mix Magazine

“I was blown away. This is like having a super-smart sound-engineer-in-a-box.” Home Theater

“Superb timbral match, top-notch dialogue clarity, seemingly limitless dynamic range and great envelopment” Widescreen Review

“The system works as advertised. Unlike other EQ systems, the Audyssey Sound Equalizer corrects both for time and frequency response problems with remarkable precision . . . smoothing tonal balance and improving frequency response accuracy across multiple listening locations.” The Absolute Sound

“Don’t even consider buying another piece of equipment until you hear this unit, this will be the biggest and most cost effective upgrade you will ever make to your system……period.” Phil Hinton, AV Forums

We are the UK distributors of the Audyssey and can guarantee that you will not be able to buy it cheaper.
The Audyssey EQ Pro
£2,195 including delivery to mainland UK (normal rrp £2500). (Please enquire about delivery further afield)

Set up kit (see attached photo)
£250 including delivery to mainland UK (normal rrp £350). (Please enquire about delivery further afield)

Please reply to this thread for more information and to order.
To find out more about Tom Homlinson of THX fame and the rest of the team behind Audyssey, visit www.audyssey.com

[JohnWH]

Hi Rob,

so 2445 all in, whats the availability like?

Thanks,
John.

[alandbush]

I could be very interested in this package but have a home cinema/listening room that is not a 'box'.
What do I mean by this? Well it is a 'knocked through' living/dining room that still retains a large part of the dividing wall. There is also a large bay window.
So, how would this be 'described' to the equaliser?

With this in mind, as well as the cost, I would have to be persuaded by a home demo of the equaliser professionally installed.

[docsmith2k1]

Does the software come with Mac versions, or PC only?

[JohnWH]

I could be very interested in this package but have a home cinema/listening room that is not a 'box'.
What do I mean by this? Well it is a 'knocked through' living/dining room that still retains a large part of the dividing wall. There is also a large bay window.
So, how would this be 'described' to the equaliser?

With this in mind, as well as the cost, I would have to be persuaded by a home demo of the equaliser professionally installed.

You don't need to discribe anything. For more info read http://www.audioholics.com/productre...eyMultEQp1.php.

John.

[alandbush]

You don't need to discribe anything. For more info read http://www.audioholics.com/productre...eyMultEQp1.php.

John.

Thanks John.:smashin:

I was being guided by Phil's description The next option page in the software set up is the room dimensions and you are asked to provide the width, length and height in three separate boxes. This calculates the square foot coverage of your listening room and is used as the first reference point for the software.

I took this to mean that the software is expecting or works best if the room is near cubic.

Thanks for the link (which, unfortunately, does not work) but I will check out the site for more information.

BTW - I think the Audyssey site leaves a lot to be desired, if you require, like me, more detail etc. on the equipment and the software.:thumbsdow

[JohnWH]

Alan,

try this link,

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/acoustics/audyssey-multeq-pro-sound-equalizer

Should be the same as above but something odd happened during cut and paste!

Cheers,
John.

PS - Rob sorry for poluting your power buy thread with this stuff.

[acave]

Anyone bitten yet?

I think we need a few more user reviews.

[dlorde]

I've ordered one to give it a try - my system sounds pretty good at the moment, but I know the room is messing up the bass, and probably causing other effects too.

The results will have to be pretty amazing to justify the cost, but I'm told they probably will be...

I'll let you know how it turns out.

[Russell Cole]

I'm interested in buying the "kit" at £2445.

Can you let me know the process...
...And any delivery costs
...And payment methods
...And availability (how long to deliver)

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Russell

[JohnS]

I'm also interested in this kit but would like to arrange a home demo if possible?

[leem123]

Hi, i would be interested in taking up this offer, could you please supply details on how I can order the unit for the special offer price

Many thanks

[Alphatoner]

Is this power buy still active? Seems to me there have been a number of people interested who have posted interest and or questions and the thread owner doesn't appear to have responded to any of them.

Has anybody actually bought one of these yet? or even received a reply to their questions.

[JohnS]

No reply to my request for a home demo, I'd pay up front and keep it if it works but I'd like to return it if it doesn't, maybe there isn't that much confidence in the product:rolleyes:

[docsmith2k1]

I feel the same way, that is pay for a home demo and return if no benefit. For such an expensive product a demo of the benefits is integral to the purchase. Who spends over £2000 + on the basis of a review, even a review by a trusted source such as Phil.

[Phil Hinton]

I have asked the organiser to get in touch as soon as he can for your querys.

[Alphatoner]

Well at least that confirms what i thought. Shame, i really don't see the point of offering a powerbuy and then totally ignoring your potential customers. Looking at rob's profile he hasn't posted on here since 23rd March.

Even if it was a no to a home demo at least it would have been a reply and showed a bit of courtesy.

It does look a very interesting product, albeit very expensive. I'll see if i can find a dealer who has it on demo. If I do i'll post the details back here.

[Alphatoner]

I have asked the organiser to get in touch as soon as he can for your querys.


Thanks Phil

[JohnS]

I agree, I wasn't entirely expecting them to agree to a home demo but a reply would have been nice.

[Neil Davidson]

Hi Guys,

There are plenty of people who would be delighted to do home demo of this equipment for you.

Unfortunately the UK list price, set by Rob, is significantly higher than this Powerbuy price :(

Neil

[Shin Akuma]

I am intersted but want to get it for demo first. I don't know where to go.

[acave]

I doubt anyone would purchase one of these units without a home trial. Rob told me a home trial was possible and they were training up people to install the units within the week. This was at the end of March. so I'm sure that is all finalised now. I think Rob is busy with his new demo room which he also spoke of back in March.

If anyone needs his direct e-mail please PM me.

[Alphatoner]

Phil

did you get a response from rob about what's happening to this power buy?

[Alphatoner]

Hi Guys,

There are plenty of people who would be delighted to do home demo of this equipment for you.

Unfortunately the UK list price, set by Rob, is significantly higher than this Powerbuy price :(

Neil


Plenty? Like who? I can't find any dealers in the UK after lots of searching on the net.

[Russell Cole]

Is this power buy still active? Seems to me there have been a number of people interested who have posted interest and or questions and the thread owner doesn't appear to have responded to any of them.

Has anybody actually bought one of these yet? or even received a reply to their questions.

Rob replied to me by PM and answered all of my questions.... I now own the kit and after playing with it a few times, I am now happy that it out-performs my previous Tag McLaren room correction system....

Regards

[Alphatoner]

Rob replied to me by PM and answered all of my questions.... I now own the kit and after playing with it a few times, I am now happy that it out-performs my previous Tag McLaren room correction system....

Regards

Thanks for that Russell,

But it does seem strange the way a UK distributor is handling potential customers.

How long have you had it, I assume from your comments that you did the set up yourself? How would you rate the improvement 10% 20% etc.

Hope you don't mind me asking about your experiences, but it's not a cheap piece of kit if all it does is make your system sound "different" but not necessarily better.


Thanks


Ian

[Phil Hinton]

but it's not a cheap piece of kit if all it does is make your system sound "different" but not necessarily better.


It takes the room away, so you can actually hear your system without reflections, standing waves etc. Hopefully Russell will give you some more thoughts, as most people know mine.

[Shin Akuma]

You can get it on trail, hear it yourself. I am getting one very soon:) , cann't go wrong with it:thumbsup: .


The difference will depend on How your room is, if it is room which is not realy suitable for home theater, that is where Audyssey will make big difference and that is the purpose of Audyssey to reduce the effect of room to sound.

[Alphatoner]

You can get it on trail, hear it yourself. I am getting one very soon:) , cann't go wrong with it:thumbsup: .



But WHERE FROM??

[Alphatoner]

It takes the room away, so you can actually hear your system without reflections, standing waves etc. Hopefully Russell will give you some more thoughts, as most people know mine.

If only we had a powerbuy where the seller was active I might be able to find out for myself :mad:

[Phil Hinton]

If only we had a powerbuy where the seller was active I might be able to find out for myself :mad:

Maybe send Rob a PM?

[Shin Akuma]

But WHERE FROM??


Sorry mate, here is Gecko telephone no. 0845 262 2882, Gecko are the distributer for Audyssey, M&K etc in UK. Ask for Rob.

[Alphatoner]

Sorry mate, here is Gecko telephone no. 0845 262 2882, Gecko are the distributer for Audyssey, M&K etc in UK. Ask for Rob.

Thanks for that, is this at thr powerbuy price though?

[Shin Akuma]

Thanks for that, is this at thr powerbuy price though?

Yes you will get it for powerbuy price:thumbsup:

[Russell Cole]

Thanks for that Russell,

But it does seem strange the way a UK distributor is handling potential customers.

How long have you had it, I assume from your comments that you did the set up yourself? How would you rate the improvement 10% 20% etc.

Hope you don't mind me asking about your experiences, but it's not a cheap piece of kit if all it does is make your system sound "different" but not necessarily better.


Thanks


Ian

I've had the kit for about five weeks but was out of the Country for two of those.... So, in the last two weeks (well, weekends) I have run through four set-ups (yes, set-up myself), each time trying different aspects and methods. The necessary process is clearly documented but there are still various "deviations" that can be experimented with and these do yield slightly differing results.

Compared to the previous room correction system that I used (Tag McLaren parametric equaliser), there is a definite improvement... difficult to put a figure on it... maybe +5~10%. However, I must put this in to perspective: I have had the Tag system for around four years, maybe run through the set-up 30~40 times, partly because the software versions changed quite often and offered improved accuracy and/or new features. So, after just a couple of weeks and four tries.... my system is sounding better. The greatest improvement is soundstage... this is both wider and deeper and the speakers less apparent... applies to movies, stereo music and multi-channel music. Other areas of improvement are more subtle and I'm still "listening" to hear these, but I have not yet heard any negative aspects... apart from as mentioned below.

There does appear to be one draw-back... but I am still trying to get to the bottom of this issue: Previously I had no problems listening to music at very loud levels (+3~4db), I now seem to get some clipping at around +1~2db.... I currently think this may be the Audyssey outputs not being as "robust" as the Tag's but have not yet come to a conclusion.... It's not too much of an issue because it was rare for me to go to those levels, and normally only after changing settings and trying to determine changes are better/worse.

[Alphatoner]

Thanks for that Russel, your reply was really helpfull. :clap:

Can i Just ask a couple of set up points if you don't mind.

Prior to running the set up do you need to set the pre-amp to base levels, ie

all speakers to large
no crossovers set
all speaker distances to 0
all speaker loudness to level

I'm assuming you do, because without knowing what the start point is I can't see how the audyssey can suggest new settings.

Thanks for your help

Ian

[Russell Cole]

Thanks for that Russel, your reply was really helpfull. :clap:

Can i Just ask a couple of set up points if you don't mind.

Prior to running the set up do you need to set the pre-amp to base levels, ie

all speakers to large
no crossovers set
all speaker distances to 0
all speaker loudness to level

I'm assuming you do, because without knowing what the start point is I can't see how the audyssey can suggest new settings.

Thanks for your help

Ian

I did... but there is no need to... the set-up bypasses the pre-amp completely and only after going through all of the measurements do you get to a point where you need to change the pre-amp settings... just before listening for the first time, and prior to selecting your desired high frequency roll-off, you are given a chance to listen to the options before uploading "permenantely" to the EQ.

Regards

[Alphatoner]

I did... but there is no need to... the set-up bypasses the pre-amp completely and only after going through all of the measurements do you get to a point where you need to change the pre-amp settings... just before listening for the first time, and prior to selecting your desired high frequency roll-off, you are given a chance to listen to the options before uploading "permenantely" to the EQ.

Regards

Aah that makes sense then if it bypass the pre-amp. Thanks for that.


Ian

[pkiern]

Hi Rob

Very interested in the audyssey

Am living in Ireland - perhaps you would send me purchase info

That would be great

Pete

[jolly]

is this offer still available ?
if so who do i contact

steve

[Betwixt]

In a previous house my audio system was stunning but in this house it has an irritating degree of upper treble distortion, over-emphasis and sibilance. This is a result of the entirely different layout and room dynamics. The reviews of the Audyssey seem to emphasise the improvement in bass control but little or nothing said about the top end. Any users able to comment on top-end improvements?
Terry

[Betwixt]

No response to Steve or me? Very disappointing!
Terry

[kansashick]

In the next week or so, an Audyssey-trained tech is coming to my house to run the system on my HT. He will then upload the adjustments to my Denon 4308, which is Audyssey Pro Eq ready. I do not know if this will be as robust as having the full system but it should be good.

Cost: $150 for the key and $60 per hour for tech time. The estimate is $600, total.

[Pezza]

In a previous house my audio system was stunning but in this house it has an irritating degree of upper treble distortion, over-emphasis and sibilance. This is a result of the entirely different layout and room dynamics. The reviews of the Audyssey seem to emphasise the improvement in bass control but little or nothing said about the top end. Any users able to comment on top-end improvements?
Terry

Well I set up mine over the weekend, and I'm happy with the results. My room is 6.5x4.0x2.5 metres, with wood floors and hard painted walls. Since installing it the bass is a lot tighter, with less 'boom'. Treble-wise I'd say the presentation does seem more open, you can definitely hear more detail than before. Turning the unit off mid-song totally collapses the soundstage in front of you, quite an amazing effect to hear!

How much of a benefit the unit will be I think might depend on what you use your system for. While watching movies I only notice the improved bass - speech and effects sound as they did before. But while listening to music you really notice both the bass and the treble improvements. This may be a function of my room as I've not heard the unit in any other environments.

Happy to answer any questions anyone has about setup etc. Was all quite straightforward I found.

[Workaholic]

Hi
I'm interested to buy the "Set up kit" to use it with Onkyo PR-SC885P, which has Audyssey EQ Pro capability. Let me know how to order it. Do you deliver to Sweden?

[jolly]

Hi
I'm interested to buy the "Set up kit" to use it with Onkyo PR-SC885P, which has Audyssey EQ Pro capability. Let me know how to order it. Do you deliver to Sweden?

Was/is one for sale in the classifieds on these forums at the moment