Two near identical pictures for you....

[Matt_C]

Who can tell me which was taken with a camera phone and which was taken with a digital camera?

No photoshopping other than a resize to make them both the same size, and the black border added....





No random guess tho - I am genuinely interested to know HOW you guys know which is taken with which, cos I am no photographer thats for sure, and know virtually nothing about photography (apart from digital zoom is poo, and SLR's take really nice pics, and that I can't afford one lol)

[Gadget Daddy]

bottom one digi camera, much crisper and sharper

Pete

[Gadget Daddy]

also look at the depth of colour on the bottom pic especially the fading sunset bands at the bottom

[Yandros]

Ok, I'll have a go

A few things are worth pointing out though. Firstly, landscapes are easy for most cameras, and you need to look closely to tell the difference. Since you've rescaled the images, most of this evidence is lost. Also, since most of the image is dark, there's little to go on. Lastly, they weren't taken at the same time, so the colours and light is different. So, all in all, an unfair challenge.

HOWEVER, I reckon the top one is the digicam, and the bottom one is the phone. If you look at the skyline, there's some fairly obvious cheesy over-sharpening going on there around the rooftops. If that's from the digicam, the sharpening is set too high If you look at the treeline, the trees are blurry in the bottom image, and more detailed in the top. Lastly, although there are jpg compression artifacts all over the place in both images, the bottom one appears to have more.

Did I get it right?

[M-C-P-M]

Originally Posted by Yandros

Ok, I'll have a go

A few things are worth pointing out though. Firstly, landscapes are easy for most cameras, and you need to look closely to tell the difference. Since you've rescaled the images, most of this evidence is lost. Also, since most of the image is dark, there's little to go on. Lastly, they weren't taken at the same time, so the colours and light is different. So, all in all, an unfair challenge.

HOWEVER, I reckon the top one is the digicam, and the bottom one is the phone. If you look at the skyline, there's some fairly obvious cheesy over-sharpening going on there around the rooftops. If that's from the digicam, the sharpening is set too high If you look at the treeline, the trees are blurry in the bottom image, and more detailed in the top. Lastly, although there are jpg compression artifacts all over the place in both images, the bottom one appears to have more.

Did I get it right?

I'm with Yandros with this one!

[Yandros]

Originally Posted by PeteB_2000

bottom one digi camera, much crisper and sharper

Pete

Zoom 'em Pete, that bottom image has sharpening halos a mile wide.

Btw, this could be a double bluff - if the camera phone is too primitive to have in-camera sharpening!

[Matt_C]

Yandors is right Top one is a Cannon S100/Ixus 2mp camera, bottom one was taken by a Nokia N70 with "alleged" 3mp intergrated camera

Yan - I know they aren't completely identical pics, but they were taken only about 4-5mins apart (clouds moving quickly)

Usually the N70 takes AWFULL and I mean AWFULL pictures, but this one time I thought it was pretty impressive for such a pony camera phone!

The Ixus/S100 was just set on "auto everything" - as said - I am no photographer, tho I wish I knew a bit more about what settings to use to get the "right" picture

[ufitsy]

Bit pointless at those resolutions.

[M-C-P-M]

[Matt_C]

Whats poitnless at what resolutions?

[ufitsy]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

Whats poitnless at what resolutions?

Please read the OP. Resolution is approx 600 X 400. light is also different in each picture.

[Matt_C]

Geez, lighten up! Res is 800x600 for 2 reasons - taken with two different camera's, they were different sizes as standard - bit of a giveaway? 2) pics were taken 5mins apart, so course the light is slightly different. I said that in the thread title tho - NEAR identical pictures (as in, not 100% the same, but taken of the same thing within mins of each other.

Lighten up - it's a bit of fun. This isn't a quest, and I don't see why amature photography must be bound by rules and be the most iportant thing in the world!

[senu]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

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Lighten up - it's a bit of fun. This isn't a quest, and I don't see why amature photography must be bound by rules and be the most iportant thing in the world!

It definitely isnt.... Im having a cold and a one man by the PC as we speak ( or type)

Interesting experiment but I guess it illustrates that superior optics always show thru and that is one of the reasons why a 10Mp point and shoot digicam will usually not match a 6 Mp DSLRs output.
Also at very small resolution ( web) and print sizes, a decent cameraphone and an entry level digicam would produce near identical results

[ush flynn]

i like how ufitsy told matt (the OP) to refer to the OP
Im a bit late here but the treeline is a dead giveaway to the camera phone on the bottom. I cant believe someone said it was crisper!

[senu]

Originally Posted by ush flynn

... the treeline is a dead giveaway to the camera phone on the bottom. I cant believe someone said it was crisper!..

"Crisper" probably referred to the sky not the tree line.

Because they skies were non identical , it was easy enough to make that mistake.

Yandros( who first reffered to the tree line) did ( like you) feel the treeline on the first was definitely crisper