View Full Version : Terminator 4, does John still need a protector ?
I'm a massive fan of The Terminator and T2, I thought T3 was a decent film not exactly what I was wanting but for a third film not directed by Cameron it was a good try.
Terminator 4 has been on the drawing board for a while now with websites saying Arnies is in it, not in it, doing a cameo, not doing a cameo, there will be a new Terminator it's gonna be Vin Diesel, The Rock, a wrestler etc. for the last year or two.
I would like to see Terminator 4, when it comes to sequels I'm more of a glass half full than glass half empty kind of guy, if it's good thats fine, if it's rubbish I just don't count it, like Alien3 and so on.
I don't want a protector for John in the 4th film, when a bad guy turns up John might as well just sit on his arse, roll his eyes and wait for the "protector" to save the day.
I don't really want an enemy sent back from the future, in the previous films it has worked but it's becoming a bit stale and the more it's done the more questions are asked like:
"why don't Skynet just send 500 Terminators at once back to 1867 and kill John's great great great grandparents?"
I do like my idea that John has to do what Kyle did in the original film and defend himself (and maybe Kate) from a T-800 based model or earlier with limited weapons/resources, it would be a decent challenge and hopefully recapture some of the tension from the first film something the sequels haven't quite done yet, T2 did OK but it didn't matter if the T-1000 got hold of Arnie and battered him about a few times but in the first film Kyle couldn't afford for the Terminator to get within inches of them.
Set the film a few years after T3 with the resistance starting to form and with early model Terminators (600's with rubber skin etc.) hunting the humans. Having John meet a really young Kyle would be a very moving moment. Time travel wouldn't be needed at all and neither would Arnie, imo Arnie isn't the needed selling point of a Terminator film anymore but a small cameo would be in it's favour.
I would be interested to hear what other Terminator fans think of a 4th film and where it should go.
BTW I would prefer if this thread wasn't used just as a T2/T3 was rubbish, T2 was better etc. thread, thanks.
Helicon
01-03-2007, 12:16 PM
I too quite enjoyed the 3rd one, although it was nothing special. The street chase scene was the highlight for me.
I just want to say that if they do use someone like The Rock or Vin Diesel, i'm just going to steer clear of the 4th one totally.
Not sure where they could go from T3. It was a decent enough film, obviously nowhere near as good as T2/T1 but I liked it.
They ended it with all the nuclear bombs going off, so unless they backtrack or do some other dodgy time travel storyline it could be featured in the future. Maybe a full out action movie with the humans versus the robots.
Bokononist
01-03-2007, 12:53 PM
As far as I see it there appears to be only one place to go for another Terminator movie.
The bombs are falling so obviously this is where SkyNet is taking over the world.
I believe T4 should show the aftermath of the war a few years on with SkyNet in total control and the start of the rebellion headed by John. So here we're bascially talking about a humans vrs robots film as mentioned by Greg above, the brief glimpse we get at the start of T2.
The film could in fact end with John asking Kyle to go back in time thereby bringing the whole series full circle.
KH
PaleRider1975
01-03-2007, 12:58 PM
Or the film could end with after Arnie has killed John and Kate sending him back to defend them in T3.
Praxidike
01-03-2007, 12:59 PM
I agree with your idea, I think it would work. T3 was entertaining, but you knew they weren't in any danger because Schwarzeneggeneggerer would save them in the end.
A cameo from him would be good right at the end... maybe a shot of loads of him in a factory, leading to the next part of the story.... T1. :confused: But that could tie things off nicely, until they come to whatever will happen in the same time as the events of T1, but in the future.... as in at the same moment they send back the first terminator, but stay in the future timeline for the film after.
pags payback
01-03-2007, 1:21 PM
I'm a massive fan of The Terminator and T2, I thought T3 was a decent film not exactly what I was wanting but for a third film not directed by Cameron it was a good try.
Terminator 4 has been on the drawing board for a while now with websites saying Arnies is in it, not in it, doing a cameo, not doing a cameo, there will be a new Terminator it's gonna be Vin Diesel, The Rock, a wrestler etc. for the last year or two.
I would like to see Terminator 4, when it comes to sequels I'm more of a glass half full than glass half empty kind of guy, if it's good thats fine, if it's rubbish I just don't count it, like Alien3 and so on.
I don't want a protector for John in the 4th film, when a bad guy turns up John might as well just sit on his arse, roll his eyes and wait for the "protector" to save the day.
I don't really want an enemy sent back from the future, in the previous films it has worked but it's becoming a bit stale and the more it's done the more questions are asked like:
"why don't Skynet just send 500 Terminators at once back to 1867 and kill John's great great great grandparents?"
I do like my idea that John has to do what Kyle did in the original film and defend himself (and maybe Kate) from a T-800 based model or earlier with limited weapons/resources, it would be a decent challenge and hopefully recapture some of the tension from the first film something the sequels haven't quite done yet, T2 did OK but it didn't matter if the T-1000 got hold of Arnie and battered him about a few times but in the first film Kyle couldn't afford for the Terminator to get within inches of them.
Set the film a few years after T3 with the resistance starting to form and with early model Terminators (600's with rubber skin etc.) hunting the humans. Having John meet a really young Kyle would be a very moving moment. Time travel wouldn't be needed at all and neither would Arnie, imo Arnie isn't the needed selling point of a Terminator film anymore but a small cameo would be in it's favour.
I would be interested to hear what other Terminator fans think of a 4th film and where it should go.
BTW I would prefer if this thread wasn't used just as a T2/T3 was rubbish, T2 was better etc. thread, thanks.
I enjoyed the third Terminator movie even though it was no where near as good as the original two, it stands up as a decent sci-fi action movie in its own right. Since the end of T3 I've been desperate for the for sequel & loved the little twist at the end. :)
I think you and I are on a same page with what we want because I don't believe that we need a time travelling Terminator or protector Terminator in the movie except at the very end with some brief cameos. Where we see Kristen Lokken(sp?), Robert Patrick, three Schwarzenegger's and Kyle Reece going back in time. And this bugs me that there are people out there that think that you can't have another Terminator movie without Schwarzenegger in the lead role!:mad: Have these people actually even watched the movies? It supposed to be the story of John Connor . :rolleyes:
T4 as you said should feature the early models of the Terminator units from the T-1 ( which we saw in Terminator 3) through to the exo-skeleton terminators, rubber skin and by the end of the movie Terminators with real flesh and skin.
We have to see events told from Terminator set in a post-apocalyptic world and at some point John has to be captured. I would say John Connor has to reasonably successfully lead the resistance before his capture, which may be a ploy to help free the humans in captivity. Events then need to lead to the destruction of Sky Net...
Having said all of that last paragraph none of that needs to happen since events of Terminator 2 changed the future. But as was seen at the end of Terminator 3 they do seem to be an elasticity of time and the events that occurred have been nudged back into the original time frame.
I think as long as the movie is fairly dark, well written and not made for a P G 13 audience continuing on from T3 it should be a very good movie... Theoretically any way.
They ended it with all the nuclear bombs going off, so unless they backtrack or do some other dodgy time travel storyline it could be featured in the future. Maybe a full out action movie with the humans versus the robots.
it has to be set in the post-apocalyptic future if it wasn't I wouldn't even bother watching it.
it has to be set in the post-apocalyptic future if it wasn't I wouldn't even bother watching it.
Definately, that's what I mean when I say a few years after T3.
I like this idea, and you could even get a whole new trilogy out of it.
T4: The machines have taken over and John is on the run trying to find somewhere safe. Machine like Terminators hunt him. He attempts to form resistance but is foiled. At the end he is captured and thrown in an extermination camp
T5: John leads a rebellion and escapes from the camp and forms the resistance. Rubber skinned Terminators fight resistance. Hints that the machines are developing time travel.
T6: John leads the resistance in all out war against the machines. Flesh based Terminators appear (doesn't have to be Arnie, there was another one in T1). Just as war is almost won (as stated in T1) the machines send Arnie back in time (Arnie makes cameo). John sends Kyle after him and we have come full circle.
There are some holes, but these are in the orginal trilogy. In T1 Kyle states that Skynet was almost defeated and the attempt to kill Sarah was it's last desperate move. However how did the T1000 and T-X come about? This implies some events after Arnie and Kyle are sent back in T1. Maybe this could be resolved in T6.
The movies could be similar in feel to the Zion sections of the Matrix movies, i.e. humans fighting machines in a post-apocolyptic world.
I like this idea, and you could even get a whole new trilogy out of it.
T4: The machines have taken over and John is on the run trying to find somewhere safe. Machine like Terminators hunt him. He attempts to form resistance but is foiled. At the end he is captured and thrown in an extermination camp
T5: John leads a rebellion and escapes from the camp and forms the resistance. Rubber skinned Terminators fight resistance. Hints that the machines are developing time travel.
T6: John leads the resistance in all out war against the machines. Flesh based Terminators appear (doesn't have to be Arnie, there was another one in T1). Just as war is almost won (as stated in T1) the machines send Arnie back in time (Arnie makes cameo). John sends Kyle after him and we have come full circle.
Good idea's, it would be nice to see Michael Biehn in a cameo role as well, he made T1 imo.
I would prefer if the sequels weren't numbered and just had subtitled names like "Terminator: Resistance", probably a rubbish example but you know what I mean. Calling Rocky 6 "Rocky Balboa" was much better idea.
There are some holes, but these are in the orginal trilogy. In T1 Kyle states that Skynet was almost defeated and the attempt to kill Sarah was it's last desperate move. However how did the T1000 and T-X come about? This implies some events after Arnie and Kyle are sent back in T1. Maybe this could be resolved in T6.
On the Ultimate Edition T2 DVD and the Laserdisc you can read about the first 20 minutes of T2 that was never made where after sending Kyle back John learns of the second mission involving the T-1000, he breaks into a storage unit housing T-800's and reprogrammes one to protect a young John and he sends it back.
The T-X is sent back a few years after the events mentioned above.
Because of the events in T2 (arm & chip) the original Skynet (1997) didn't happen after the events in T3 how this changed the future is anyone's guess.
The more you think about time travel the more mistakes are seen, plot holes are inevitable.
The movies could be similar in feel to the Zion sections of the Matrix movies, i.e. humans fighting machines in a post-apocolyptic world.
As long as there are no bloody rave scenes:lesson: :grin:
As long as there are no bloody rave scenes:lesson: :grin:
Arnie 'dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984' :rotfl: It would be worth making them just for that :grin:
nwgarratt
01-03-2007, 4:49 PM
The fourth film has to be about the war and see John being the resistance leader. The film can then end with Reese and Terminator going through the time machine (we finally bet to see what it looks like) to the date of first film. It can be done in one film as long as it more than 2 hours I would say. I liked T3 a lot but it was too short.
Nah, the resistance and the war is supposed to last 20-30 years. I don't think you could cover it all unless you skipped a huge chunk and went to the end.
nwgarratt
01-03-2007, 5:45 PM
Nah, the resistance and the war is supposed to last 20-30 years. I don't think you could cover it all unless you skipped a huge chunk and went to the end.
Plenty of films cover that amount of time on one film. You only need the major parts of the war that give the best action. Its not like the film is going to do a week by week account.
Plenty of films cover that amount of time on one film. You only need the major parts of the war that give the best action. Its not like the film is going to do a week by week account.
They could do it in one film if they wanted to but sequels rarely cover decades chronologically in one film, I can't even think of any.
They could do like they did with The Godfather II and have two time lines running together have John thinking back to the start of the resistance and getting captured etc while the later time line was based during the run up to the assault on Skynet.
rude-dog
01-03-2007, 7:47 PM
The film could in fact end with John asking Kyle to go back in time thereby bringing the whole series full circle.
KH
wow! good call, i think you've just hit nail on the head with that one... surely it's gotta end like that
wow! good call, i think you've just hit nail on the head with that one... surely it's gotta end like that
I was hoping T3 was gonna end like that when I heard on darkhorizons that Biehn had a cameo, but it never happened though.
chaddy
01-03-2007, 8:04 PM
instead of having another trilogy of films you could have a few seasons of mini series.
3 or 4 seasons starting with the end of T3 and the final episode getting kyle back to the future.
Series like BSG and and Stargate even a few episodes of heroes have shown that you can still get good stories while spending a bit on SFX.
raigraphixs
01-03-2007, 8:10 PM
in the meantime this is due soon
Connor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851851/)
nwgarratt
01-03-2007, 8:28 PM
in the meantime this is due soon
Connor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851851/)
I am looking forward to that especially as it has Summer "Firefly" Glau in it.
in the meantime this is due soon
Connor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851851/)
I hope this show is good but I'm not sure how well it's gonna be pulled off, it will be so tempting for the producers to have terminators coming back from the future.
pags payback
02-03-2007, 1:40 PM
I like this idea, and you could even get a whole new trilogy out of it.
T4: The machines have taken over and John is on the run trying to find somewhere safe. Machine like Terminators hunt him. He attempts to form resistance but is foiled. At the end he is captured and thrown in an extermination camp
T5: John leads a rebellion and escapes from the camp and forms the resistance. Rubber skinned Terminators fight resistance. Hints that the machines are developing time travel.
T6: John leads the resistance in all out war against the machines. Flesh based Terminators appear (doesn't have to be Arnie, there was another one in T1). Just as war is almost won (as stated in T1) the machines send Arnie back in time (Arnie makes cameo). John sends Kyle after him and we have come full circle.
There are some holes, but these are in the orginal trilogy. In T1 Kyle states that Skynet was almost defeated and the attempt to kill Sarah was it's last desperate move. However how did the T1000 and T-X come about? This implies some events after Arnie and Kyle are sent back in T1. Maybe this could be resolved in T6.
The movies could be similar in feel to the Zion sections of the Matrix movies, i.e. humans fighting machines in a post-apocolyptic world.
I agree you could get a whole new trilogy out of the remaining story of the Terminator and it was something I was proposing somewhere on the Net after watching T 3 several years back. Although you went into greater detail with your outline.
If they were going to draw the remaining story out of the Terminator into a trilogy I think they need to have a clear and decisive story plan in place and the financial backing guaranteed before starting for all three movies. Much like the Lord Of the Rings they should make the films concurrently releasing them one year apart.
I also agree with T800 there should be absolutely no bloody rave scenes! I also think that his idea for naming the film's rather than having them numbered is a very good idea.
I hope this show is good but I'm not sure how well it's gonna be pulled off, it will be so tempting for the producers to have terminators coming back from the future.
I'm very interested in the Sarah Connor TV series however my main concern is making sure that there are no continuity errors between T2 , T 3 and any further Terminator sequels.
it's going to be hard to make it work with or without terminators coming back from the future. I can't see this lasting much more than one or two seasons tbh.
raigraphixs
04-03-2007, 4:21 PM
news on The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Lena Headey, who stars in the the Fox SF drama pilot The Sarah Connor Chronicles, told SCI FI Wire that the show will begin with a confrontation between Headey's title character; her son, John Connor (Heroes' Thomas Dekker); and two new Terminators: a female model, played by Serenity's Summer Glau, and a male one, which she called Cromartie, played by Owain Yeoman. One is good and one is bad; she didn't say which is which. (Glau's character is named Cameron, an apparent nod to Terminator franchise creator James Cameron.)
The pilot, which picks up the story from the end of the feature film Terminator 2: Judgment Day, begins in the desert, and "it ends with them landing in L.A., having run and escaped. Or maybe not," Headey said in an interview at WonderCon in San Francisco on March 3.
"We just finished [shooting]," Headey (300) said. "We were in Albuquerque [N.M.] for a month. And it was very intense, because TV is crazy. I mean, it's long days. It's like boom, boom, boom. You don't get any respite. But ... I think it's going to be great. I don't know if its going to be picked up, because it's only in pilot stage right now. But I learned to shoot many weapons and how to recognize a Terminator. So it was a good experience."
The pilot "begins, and it's them basically running, hiding, trying to live," Headey said. "Trying to carve out a normal life for themselves, but always being watched and trying to locate Skynet, trying to stop [it]. But there are many, many issues in their way."
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stealther
05-03-2007, 10:53 AM
Really interesting thread and some great ideas. For me a sequel(s) would have to be set in the future with the eventual total destruction of one side, wether it be man or machine.
High_Def DVD
05-03-2007, 11:28 AM
T4, i would like to see what happens after the T3 movie ends when all the nukes has fired off all over the world, and the resistance begins, this would be a great start, or maybe this is to soon after the T3, and there should be a time gap between these movies, like John (narrator) just telling the story of above events and then he is finished we are a few years into the resistance war.
Any way just shoot the T4 movie, no matter what the plot is:thumbsup:
However, believe it would be a great task so do this and a great effort of ca$h in a word of speaking, because it's gonna be expensive with a lot of CGI Effects and so on.
(And believe it or not, the movie Tron was disqulified for an Academy Award because it was using computer effects!
This is truly among the greatest silent scandals of the oscars)
pags payback
05-03-2007, 11:39 AM
I agree T4 should start shooting as soon as possible but not until it has a decent script.
Any way just shoot the T4 movie, no matter what the plot is:thumbsup:
No offence but it's this sort of attitude that gives us totally crap throw away sequels.
nero0410
05-03-2007, 6:48 PM
The film could in fact end with John asking Kyle to go back in time thereby bringing the whole series full circle.
KH
That should work out nicely.
The question was arised that the war lasted 20-30 years, they could in fact have the opening sequence have john coming out of the bunker and prepareing the army for 10-15 mins then have a story unfold by explaining whats going on with collage of war and troops coming and going then go into the war starting about 20mins before they send the 'extras' back through time and ending the film on the everything reversing it's self either donnie darko style then fast forwarding to what the future would be like without skynet. Erm.... if you know what I mean?
tris
High_Def DVD
06-03-2007, 7:42 AM
No offence but it's this sort of attitude that gives us totally crap throw away sequels.
Ok, i stand corrected, however a decent script and plot it'll do just fine then:)
JagoPlasma
07-03-2007, 12:52 PM
big fan of the terminator movies, and while t3 did have a different edge to it i still consider it a terminator movie (even tho it had too much humour and no feeling of chase)
i think theres only one way for T4 to go.
It has to carry on from where t3 left off, into "uncharted territory" to quote sarah
we will be looking at the film from all the myths that were passed down from kyle and the terminator.
Hopefully kyle can be played by the original, John and Kate from T3, and arnie as himself (only at the end)
we need to see:-
Action
the take over by skynet,
living in the prison camps(prisoners) and underground(rebles),
John and the rebels being captured and taken to the camp,
Emotion
Kate is missing John, John is missing Kate
John is restless, he is mad that he was caught, and he always has trouble sleeping so goes for a walk, then he meets Kyle, we see John knows Kyle but keeps quiet and Kyle is oblivious,
John giving Kyle the photo of Sarah and telling stories of her,
Now to add action back in
John helping the prisoners and kyle break free in some spectacular Special FX,
Taking down skynet, skynet is destroyed but the equipment and rogue terminators remain
Emotion
Kyle and the prisoners/rebels thinking its all over and relief
Action
One last mission, and only John knows it, still a vunerable child inside he has come to terms with what needs to be done, he gives it to his best soldier Kyle, "Go save sarah"
Kyle takes on this mission knowing he will get to meet Sarah who he has longed for, he goes through the time travel machine (nice special fx again) for her
The true last mission, John knows he's sent Kyle off as needed but theres one last mission he needs to do, save himself! he programs the other terminator to go back to 1992(?) to save his youngerself.
while programming he remembers his fate, this angers him and he wants to destroy them all!,
Kate has developed a virus to infect the terminators to destroy each other, without a second thought he goes out to destroy them one by one.
he encounters a long lost friend, its Arnie, skynets last attempt to kill John, he looks wounded and is asking for help, he appears to be in pain, how can this be? john goes to help him when Kate bursts in and shouts stop! too late, John looks round and is faced with a gun to his chest and the terminator pulls the trigger and john falls to the floor, the terminator then transmits "Mission successful" then unemotionally turns off as his only mission was to kill John, Kate holds John on the floor and whispers "its over, you can go to sleep now"
The End..... or something like that :p
No one is going to see a Terminator 4 film set entirely in the future , just concerning the war with the machines.
Why?
No-one would relate to it. Imagine Starship Troopers without the fantastic bugs,space bits and loopy sense of humour. Its just a bunch of characters no-one gives a hoot about running around some dirty wasteland being menaced by some silvery skeletons. No impending nuclear armageddon as its already happened.
No time travel paradox element sending shivers up your spine , No indestructable death machine relentlessly pursuing its goal , No arnie. No explosive gun play , just namby pamby fake laser guns that turn aforementioned death machine into swiss cheese at the drop of a hat.
T3 felt ( and looks) like a TV pilot. The SC series sounds like the worst idea in a long time.
They may as well just go back to the first film and remake it from scratch with the Rock or some other beefcake.
nwgarratt
07-03-2007, 3:47 PM
No one is going to see a Terminator 4 film set entirely in the future , just concerning the war with the machines.
I would. That is what I was hoping T3 would have been about rather than another chase movie like the previous two.
T3 felt ( and looks) like a TV pilot.
No it doesn't.
They may as well just go back to the first film and remake it from scratch with the Rock or some other beefcake.
Seriously? I don't know to :eek: or :grin: about that.
JagoPlasma
07-03-2007, 4:24 PM
Mr.D i have to question your logic.
in terminator 1 and 2, we all knew it would end ok despite the thrill of the chase. its like almost any other film, it has a good ending(im talking good guys win not quality :devil: )
if it was based in the future after the nuclear war there is still a story to be told, the one that the previous 3 films have been building upto, its about how mankind saves itself from being enslaved by robots. will they survive? well we know that by the logic above, but its the getting there that counts.
you will still have your time paradoxes as you have to take into account that your in a place between three possible pasts and the three possible futures that will create the three possible pasts, anything could go wrong and change all six of them! :eek: my head hurts! lol
like i said, people will relate to it because they have seen the previous 3 films and want to know what the real story is that happens in the future, has it been changed due to circumstances of the past, or are we just on a linear road that will take is to victory?
like t3, you wont need to understand the past, it will be a good action flick, but to those who have followed the past movies it will be the answers they have been waiting for
No one is going to see a Terminator 4 film set entirely in the future , just concerning the war with the machines.
Why?
No-one would relate to it. Imagine Starship Troopers without the fantastic bugs,space bits and loopy sense of humour. Its just a bunch of characters no-one gives a hoot about running around some dirty wasteland being menaced by some silvery skeletons. No impending nuclear armageddon as its already happened.
Just going off all the replies in this thread the future/war/wasteland is what most are wanting to see.
Reign of Fire was set in a dirty wasteland and it worked OK, sure the film wasn't "that" good but I thought it quite obvious the setting could work with the right story.
As for characters no one gives a hoot about, what about John and Kate plus others to be introduced.
I like to think of the endoskeletons as hunting/attacking them a bit like the zombies from Dawn of the Dead (2004) with them being frantically chased and still being hard to destroy.
No time travel paradox element sending shivers up your spine , No indestructable death machine relentlessly pursuing its goal , No arnie. No explosive gun play , just namby pamby fake laser guns that turn aforementioned death machine into swiss cheese at the drop of a hat.
For me personally the time travel never gave me the "shivers up the spine" feeling tbh. There would be plenty of undestructable death machines as mentioned above.
I don't need Arnie, he sold the first two film very well but I'm not so sure now.
I would have thought that the first terminators and definately the humans would be using standard left over firearms at first.
Namby pamby lasers would come later and even though they would make short work of T-1 up to T800 models (a bit like the guns in Starship Troopers) they wouldn't be so easy on the more advanced models.
Quite a popular film from 1977 used lasers and did OK.
T3 felt ( and looks) like a TV pilot. The SC series sounds like the worst idea in a long time.
I know what your saying I did get a "tiny" TV feeling from the film and the SC series is a really bad idea.
They may as well just go back to the first film and remake it from scratch with the Rock or some other beefcake.
I don't like the idea mainly because the original is my favourite, plus they would spend too much money on it and it would lose it's pace and feeling.
rebel_scum
09-03-2007, 3:17 PM
I'm really enjoying this thread, JagoPlasma's ideas gave me a little tingle down my spine, especially the last line.
Just going off all the replies in this thread the future/war/wasteland is what most are wanting to see.
Reign of Fire was set in a dirty wasteland and it worked OK, sure the film wasn't "that" good but I thought it quite obvious the setting could work with the right story.
As for characters no one gives a hoot about, what about John and Kate plus others to be introduced.
I like to think of the endoskeletons as hunting/attacking them a bit like the zombies from Dawn of the Dead (2004) with them being frantically chased and still being hard to destroy.
For me personally the time travel never gave me the "shivers up the spine" feeling tbh. There would be plenty of undestructable death machines as mentioned above.
I don't need Arnie, he sold the first two film very well but I'm not so sure now.
I would have thought that the first terminators and definately the humans would be using standard left over firearms at first.
Namby pamby lasers would come later and even though they would make short work of T-1 up to T800 models (a bit like the guns in Starship Troopers) they wouldn't be so easy on the more advanced models.
Quite a popular film from 1977 used lasers and did OK.
I don't like the idea mainly because the original is my favourite, plus they would spend too much money on it and it would lose it's pace and feeling.
well said.
Incidentally Terminator 4 is being made. :thumbsup:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=521561
LFC_SL
18-05-2007, 12:35 AM
No one is going to see a Terminator 4 film set entirely in the future , just concerning the war with the machines.
Why?
No-one would relate to it.
I would and I don't think I'm the only one. T1 was brilliant. I repeat, the ending to T2 is nigh on perfect. T3 should only have been about how they do finally destroy Skynet - the only road left not fully explored. But again they could have left it at T2. Prior to T3, it was one of the few, if not the only franchise that imho had not been ruined through being milked... alas Indie 4 crosses off the only other one on the list
What on earth will they talk about for 3 more films?! Or if its going to be separate stories, what?!
I would and I don't think I'm the only one. T1 was brilliant. I repeat, the ending to T2 is nigh on perfect. T3 should only have been about how they do finally destroy Skynet - the only road left not fully explored. But again they could have left it at T2. Prior to T3, it was one of the few, if not the only franchise that imho had not been ruined through being milked... alas Indie 4 crosses off the only other one on the list
What on earth will they talk about for 3 more films?! Or if its going to be separate stories, what?!
There's a few examples in this thread about what the three films could be about.