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Old 07-02-2007, 1:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Another new JVC DLA-HD1 installed(ish) - WARNING LARGE PICS

I've had to change the image links in this post to hyperlinks instead as the forum admin doesn't like large images, and I want people to see the detail this thing can produce.

Thanks to Elliot I now have my very own HD1

I think I'm even more impressed with it now than I was at the screening event. Out of the box the colours look spot on and the vibrancy and punch are just unbelievable.

On the convergence side I had to shift blue up one pixel which brought it bang on and shift red right one pixel which makes it off by about 1/4 pixel.

I switched back & forth between the HD1 and my old Sim2 HT200 DMF and the difference was amazing. Obviously the HD1 resolution is better but absolutely everything else about the image was better, colour, contrast, punch, vibrancy everything. So, so happy :-)

So on to some pictures. These were taken with a point & shoot camera (Canon Ixus-i zoom) on a tripod with flash turned off. They're not great but
all I can do as I don't have a better digital camera.
Here's the beast in its (very) temporary tabletop setup used for these shots (it's since been packed away and put in the cellar whilst I wait for the room to be re-decorated and the new screen & ceiling mount to arrive.)

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3180.JPG

I've got it hooked up to a media center PC running at 1080i via DVI->HDMI (have to use 1080i not 1080p as my Toshiba LCD TV doesn't support 1080p)
then via a Gefen 4:2 switch box so I can drive the HD1 and the TV from the same sources via HDMI.

Here's a picture of the MCE's Vista desktop

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3172.JPG

As you can see it has no overscan, so goves a perfect 1:1 pixel mapping (indeed I used a PC based set of test images to perfect the convergence)

Here's Vista MCE's interface - all nice and shiny

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3173.JPG

and here's a freeze frame of standard def freeview via MCE

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3174.JPG

Now as far as black levels are concerned - YOU CAN'T SEE THE BLACK FRAMES TOP & BOTTOM ON 2.35:1 STUFF. If you don't believe me check this out - from the opening of Flightplan on Sky HD10

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3175.JPG

and here's a freeze frame a little later where you can see the black bars

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3176.JPG

Nothing changed between those shots apart from me unpausing and re-pausing the SkyHD box.

The absolute eye opener with thsi projector though was the footage from Sunday night's Superbowl (which I kept just to check with the HD1 even though I'm a Bears fan of 21 years and we lost horribly)

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3177.JPG

The sharpness really shows up with on-screen graphics (the jp[g compression on the camera makes this look softer than it actually was)

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3178.JPG

Oh, I checked and there's absolutely no screen corner brightening on my one, checked with a black screen from the MCE box and neither I nor my friend who's over checking it out could see any corner brightening at all.

So, that's it for now - I must say I'm even happier than I thought i'd be with it, and once I get the new 9' wide screen from Elliot I'll be even happier

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Re: Another new JVC DLA-HD1 installed(ish) - WARNING LARGE PICS

Great photos, its amazing how close you can get to this without seeing any pixels.
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Old 07-02-2007, 2:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Congrats, you lucky thing!!

Great news about PC to HDMI- I was getting worried about the lack of VGA and the need for vga to component converters. if there's no need for them, that's good.

Is there a setting in the menu to switch the HDMI input to pc levels instead of video levels?
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That was my last big hurdle after reading the Cine 4 Home review..

Looks like i've found my pj!!
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Great pics and congratulations
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Re: Another new JVC DLA-HD1 installed(ish) - WARNING LARGE PICS

Thanks for getting in close and using plenty of pixels in your shots.

There appears to be a slight blue tinge to left of white text and red to the right...is this due to slight misconvergence (1/4 pixel as mentioned)?

(Lower res screen shots can look great, but when a 800x600 JPEG is met with remarks such as 'gee looks HD', you've got to smile).

Sadly the piccies have now been reduced in res, defeating the point!!!!!!!!!!!

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The colour bleed you're seeing is I'm pretty sure due to the colour-space compression of the jpeg algorithm used to compress the screenshot and has nothing to do with HD1 projected image.

From the disatance those shots were taken I couldn't even tell when the convergence was out - I had to put up a test pattern to tell and then only had to move blue up one pixel (it was one whole pixel too low) and red right one pixel (it was 3/4 of a pixel too far left)
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Congrats to u and UrbanT. We need piccies!
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for some strange reason the pics don't show up for me?
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I can't see pictures either, and i have tried Internet Explora, Opera and Firefox.
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No photo's for me....btw, shouldn't this be posted in the other thread?
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Re: Another new JVC DLA-HD1 installed(ish) - WARNING LARGE PICS

there is a space in the address for the pictures
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No photo's for me....btw, shouldn't this be posted in the other thread?
Picture links have an extra space (%20) in their URL. So if you right click on the square where the picture should be, and select properties you will see

http://homepages.nildram.%20co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3177.JPG

and it should be

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~m455954/IMG_3177.JPG

It's the same for all pics, enter the correct URL above into IE and they all are found OK

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there is a space in the address for the pictures
Beat me to it

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