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Old 06-01-2007, 12:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Blu-Ray faking features.

Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good to see they're puting that extra space to good use.
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Is this their vision of putting more extra features for their large capacity? Without which there'd be more empty spaces on their BD50.
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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tell you what. If you are so gullible i can sell you germany cheap. It may take me some time to aquire or indeed make the deal but i can show you a mock up of what it will look like.
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Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.


What difference does it make to the end user?
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.

now we know why they have more space. crappier codec, worse sound and 2 versions of the movie so they can show pip.

sonys new blu ray player $800
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Sony making a complete hash of everything they touch priceless
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Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
This is just getting ridiculous,the format gets worse and worse by the day

The few AV enthusiasts / early adopters around the globe should just knock buying this crap alltogether on the head,, and then everyone can just move on and enjoy the format of choice now and for the future of what true high definition really is = HD DVD
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What difference does it make to the end user?

Anyone???!!!
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Anyone???!!!
None Nada Zilch.

And that is what's so telling about it. If that's all they can think of in utilizing that extra space, then it's just one more argument why anything above what HD DVD offers is useless and offers no value for practical HT purposes.
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Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
You're joking surely? I suggested this as a possible solution following Nic's excellent post on the current BD-J limitations - but I can't believe they would employ such a tacky solution.

Please tell me BluRay hasn't done this

For those who can't see the implications it means, in lieu of BD-J will we doubtless be subjected to more of the same - with films being compressed so they can fit two on the same disc - in effect back to the bad old 'BD25 only' days. Lossless soundtracks will probably be the first casualty
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What difference does it make to the end user?
It means they could have used a higher bit rate to give the user a better sound/picture. But they didn't .

It means they could have used that space to give the user more extras. But they didn't .

It means they either have a technical problem and/or lack of understanding of the users' expectations and/or lack of imagination.
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Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
Are you joking April 1st can't have got here that quick Where did the info come from and has it been validated ?

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Are you joking April 1st can't have got here that quick Where did the info come from and has it been validated ?

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It's been confirmed on the AVS Insiders thread.The Blu_Ray insider is argueing that since 95% of Blu-Ray players will be PS3 and they have PiP capability this won't be an issue in future. So the message appears to be screw people who bought real Blu-Ray players, we can make interactive PS3 movies.
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The Blu_Ray insider is argueing that since 95% of Blu-Ray players will be PS3
That's an interesting statistic because in USA to end of 2006:
DVD Player sales (excluding DVD-ROM drives and Playstation 2) = 119,462,278 [source: CEMA]

Playstation 2 sales = 41,871,000 * [source: NPD]

* to end of November 2006
Therefore of DVD dedicated player / PS2 sales in USA (excluding DVD-ROM drives) are:
Dedicated players = 74%

Playstation 2 = 26%
What's he saying about sales of Blu-ray dedicated players?

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What's he saying about sales of Blu-ray dedicated players?
They must have greater plans for the format than that surely?
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