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06-01-2007, 12:07 AM
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Blu-Ray faking features.
Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
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06-01-2007, 12:23 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
Good to see they're puting that extra space to good use. 
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06-01-2007, 12:26 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
Is this their vision of putting more extra features for their large capacity? Without which there'd be more empty spaces on their BD50.
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06-01-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
tell you what. If you are so gullible i can sell you germany cheap. It may take me some time to aquire or indeed make the deal but i can show you a mock up of what it will look like.
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06-01-2007, 12:30 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
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What difference does it make to the end user? 
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06-01-2007, 12:31 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
now we know why they have more space. crappier codec, worse sound and 2 versions of the movie so they can show pip.
sonys new blu ray player $800
Movie $29
Sony making a complete hash of everything they touch priceless
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06-01-2007, 12:48 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
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This is just getting ridiculous,the format gets worse and worse by the day
The few AV enthusiasts / early adopters around the globe should just knock buying this crap alltogether on the head,, and then everyone can just move on and enjoy the format of choice now and for the future of what true high definition really is = HD DVD 
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06-01-2007, 1:46 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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What difference does it make to the end user? 
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Anyone???!!!
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06-01-2007, 2:03 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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What difference does it make to the end user? 
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Anyone???!!!
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None Nada Zilch.
And that is what's so telling about it. If that's all they can think of in utilizing that extra space, then it's just one more argument why anything above what HD DVD offers is useless and offers no value for practical HT purposes.
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06-01-2007, 7:49 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
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 You're joking surely? I suggested this as a possible solution following Nic's excellent post on the current BD-J limitations - but I can't believe they would employ such a tacky solution.
Please tell me BluRay hasn't done this
For those who can't see the implications it means, in lieu of BD-J will we doubtless be subjected to more of the same - with films being compressed so they can fit two on the same disc - in effect back to the bad old 'BD25 only' days. Lossless soundtracks will probably be the first casualty 
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06-01-2007, 9:12 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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What difference does it make to the end user?
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It means they could have used a higher bit rate to give the user a better sound/picture. But they didn't  .
It means they could have used that space to give the user more extras. But they didn't  .
It means they either have a technical problem and/or lack of understanding of the users' expectations and/or lack of imagination.
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06-01-2007, 10:07 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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Originally Posted by Jeff
Blu-Ray has dropped to new lows by faking Picture in Picture in one of it's latest films The Descent, instead of having true PiP like on some HD-DVD titles they have 2 full copies of the film on the BD50, one with the extra video window superimposed. You couldn't dream up this stuff.
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Are you joking  April 1st can't have got here that quick  Where did the info come from and has it been validated ?
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06-01-2007, 11:31 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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Are you joking  April 1st can't have got here that quick  Where did the info come from and has it been validated ?
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It's been confirmed on the AVS Insiders thread.The Blu_Ray insider is argueing that since 95% of Blu-Ray players will be PS3 and they have PiP capability this won't be an issue in future. So the message appears to be screw people who bought real Blu-Ray players, we can make interactive PS3 movies. 
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06-01-2007, 11:50 AM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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The Blu_Ray insider is argueing that since 95% of Blu-Ray players will be PS3
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That's an interesting statistic because in USA to end of 2006:
DVD Player sales (excluding DVD-ROM drives and Playstation 2) = 119,462,278 [source: CEMA]
Playstation 2 sales = 41,871,000 * [source: NPD]
* to end of November 2006 Therefore of DVD dedicated player / PS2 sales in USA (excluding DVD-ROM drives) are:
Dedicated players = 74%
Playstation 2 = 26% What's he saying about sales of Blu-ray dedicated players?
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06-01-2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: Blu-Ray faking features.
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What's he saying about sales of Blu-ray dedicated players?
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They must have greater plans for the format than that surely?
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