Dual format owner disappointed in BD

[cj]

For those of you who don't frequent the AVS forum, here's an interesting post from a dual format owner, who has a pretty good () setup: HD-DVD player and PS3 via Lumagen HDQ into Sony Ruby.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=777024

Having invested in a PS3 and 17 Blur-Ray movies to try out BD, he doesn't appear to be trolling: -

Originally Posted by BangoO

Hello,

So... I have a Sony Ruby on a 100" screen, a Lumagen HDQ to output 1080p48 to the Ruby, a Toshiba HD-A1, and a PS3.
I have the Toshiba HD-A1 since months now, and I have watched something like 50 movies. I have been very impressed by some of them, such as King Kong, MI3, etc.

I recently bought a PS3 (firmware 1.32, configured in 1080i60 in HDMI YPb/Cb Pr/Cr, connected to the HDQ to output 1080p48) and 17 movies, and I tested some of the Tier 0 and Tier 1 ones, and have not been impressed at all.
X3 is very good, but still not as sharp as King Kong or MI3.
Ice Age 2 is very soft.
KOH is a bit soft and not very impressive.
BHD, same as KOH.
LXG is sometimes sharp, but most of the time a bit soft.
Pearl Harbour is quite sharp, but still no King Kong or MI3.

[Rasczak]

Originally Posted by cj

For those of you who don't frequent the AVS forum, here's an interesting post from a dual format owner, who has a pretty good () setup
....

Having invested in a PS3 and 17 Blur-Ray movies to try out BD, he doesn't appear to be trolling: -

Pretty much what the rest of us dual format owners have been saying for awhile

Will A Newbie Be Impressed By BluRay?

[Dave2]

Dam a sony Ruby... I wonder if he will swap for 3 hd-dvds and £10

[SAH]

Sorry, but there are far more duel format owners who believe theres zero difference between either formats, given good quality titles, than those all too predictable rants about how 'poor' BR is etc.

KOH and Ice Age 2 are spectacular while Pearl Harbour is being touted as the best title on either format, I wonder why those comments have not been linked over here, lol!

Look, I could understand someone saying KOH is not QUITE as good as King Kong, but to suggest it's 'a bit soft and not very impressive' is laugable!

[Rasczak]

Originally Posted by SAH

Sorry, but there are far more duel format owners who believe theres zero difference between either formats, given good quality titles, than those all too predictable rants about how 'poor' BR is etc.

I disagree - have a look at the thread I linked to

[BadAss]

Heres a thread from AVS which suggests KK in not much better than DVD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=776974

Heres someone not happy with the HD-DVD 2007 line up.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=776185

Heres some one whos returning there HD-A2 to go Blu-Ray.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=776311

I could go on but its pointless. Its better to choose the films you want, the best player you can afford and sit back and enjoy the HD experience.

I'll be sitting down to watch Pearl Harbour tonight but if the Hulk and King Kong floats your boat then HD-DVD may be a wise choice.

[cj]

Originally Posted by SAH

Pearl Harbour is being touted as the best title on either format, I wonder why those comments have not been linked over here, lol!

Oh do you mean these comments: -

Is Pearl Harbour the best HD Title?

Originally Posted by patrick99

To answer your question: No. It's not.

or

Originally Posted by TWISTED BULLET

You didn't see the artifacting then? There's blocking in the sky throughout the entire movie. In my opinion it doesn't even come close to the best HD title, and certainly doesn't touch king kong on HD DVD.

HiDefDigest gave BD Pearl Harbour 4 out of 5 for video quality - King Kong and Hulk HD-DVD both got 5 out of 5 for video.

Anyway I've seen neither so I'm unable to comment personally.

[Rasczak]

Originally Posted by BadAss

Heres a thread from AVS which suggests KK in not much better than DVD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=776974

Heres someone not happy with the HD-DVD 2007 line up.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=776185

Heres some one whos returning there HD-A2 to go Blu-Ray.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=776311

Not quite sure wat any of that has to do with the subject matter? Other than the fact BluRay is taking (another) beating and you're trying to flak deflect

Its better to choose the films you want, the best player you can afford and sit back and enjoy the HD experience.

I quite agree. Thankfully, as a dual owner, I can sit back and watch any film in high def

Back to topic...as a dual owner I am yet to see any BluRay that blows me away. Some are very good - but none have made me simply drop my jaw in awe as, for example, the picture and sound of V for Vendetta have. But that's just me...I'm a movie fan not a format fan.

[SAH]

Originally Posted by Rasczak

I disagree - have a look at the thread I linked to

Evrythings not rosy in the Blu-Ray gardern admitedly.

However, I do check out AVS regularly, and recently there have been far more Blu-ray titles that have matched the tier 1 HD-DVD's, there appears to be a consensus both format are now delivering great PQ.

On the HD-DVD side the best titles still pack a punch but there is constant grumbling about the lack of AAA titles, little marketing, player shortages, player glitches etc. yet few if any of these reports are posted over here.

I guess it will be 6 months down the line when reality dawns, as it's begining to do in the US.

[BadAss]

Originally Posted by Rasczak

Not quite sure wat any of that has to do with the subject matter? Other than the fact BluRay is taking (another) beating and you're trying to flak deflect

My point is I could start several negative HD-DVD threads, but at the end of the day its poinless a bit like this thread.

Originally Posted by Rasczak

Some are very good - but none have made me simply drop my jaw in awe as, for example, the picture and sound of V for Vendetta have. But that's just me...I'm a movie fan not a format fan.

But if I sit tight long enough I'll be getting V for V and BB on Blue-Ray in 2007and enjoy the same quality, no need to spend £400 for a few dodgy Universal titles.

[SAH]

Originally Posted by cj

Oh do you mean these comments: -

Is Pearl Harbour the best HD Title?



or



HiDefDigest gave BD Pearl Harbour 4 out of 5 for video quality - King Kong and Hulk HD-DVD both got 5 out of 5 for video.

Anyway I've seen neither so I'm unable to comment personally.

'I watched the entire attack sequence and a few selected scense (the opening childhood in the plane, the followup chicken sequence, and some of the closing scenes) on my SXRD, and there is not a shred of artifacting. Anyone seeing that has problems with their displays or setups. Same with people seeing banding in Ice Age:Meltdown.

Sorry, but it's getting old to see people claiming BD disks have artifacts that just aren't there. '



'Having seen both Hulk and Transporter 2, it is close, but Transport 2 does beat it out for both PQ and AQ. Hulk is good though. To me Hulk is about like Tears of the Sun on Blu-ray. I saw a bit of artifacting in the action sequences with Hulk, whereas I saw absolutely none on Transporter 2.'




'I think that those that own both formats that are seeing glaring differences between the formats may want to have their ISF guy back to check things out (if they used one in the first place). The differences are so minimal they are impossible to enumerate. Both look fantastic on my 1080P set up and ISF calibrated Qualia - on the whole, one format is no better than the other in terms of PQ. '



I watched Tears of the Sun, KOH and Ice Age 2 the other night, all three are every bit as as good as V for Vendetta and Tokyo Drift.

[Rasczak]

Originally Posted by BadAss

My point is I could start several negative HD-DVD threads, but at the end of the day its poinless a bit like this thread.

99% of the threads on here are pointless - including many of the negative HD DVD ones you do start - but ultimately we all rise to respond to each thread. Saying it's pointless is petty IMHO.

But if I sit tight long enough I'll be getting V for V and BB on Blue-Ray in 2007 and enjoy the same quality, no need to spend £400 for a few dodgy Universal titles.

Good for you - I think the odds of our Samsung getting a Dolby TrueHD upgrade not to mention Warner actually giving the BD version a lossless sountrack - are slim to non-existant. That scene just won't be the same unless you have the lossless soundtrack to accompany it

[cj]

Originally Posted by BadAss

But if I sit tight long enough I'll be getting V for V and BB on Blue-Ray in 2007and enjoy the same quality, no need to spend £400 for a few dodgy Universal titles.

Providing they're released with the correct region for your Blur-Ray player of course

Originally Posted by SAH

recently there have been far more Blu-ray titles that have matched the tier 1 HD-DVD's

And therein lies BD's inherent problem - always trying to "match" HD-DVD...

[Rasczak]

Originally Posted by SAH

I guess it will be 6 months down the line when reality dawns, as it's begining to do in the US.

Maybe then more than 5 people will read the BluRay forum at anyone time?

[Louis Mazzini]

Originally Posted by BadAss

I could go on but its pointless.

Happy New Year, everybody!