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Vipen
02-08-2002, 9:19 AM
wanted to buy some region 1 dvds of play.com but they state that RCE encoding on certain discs will mean they may not play. and that they don't offer a returns policy.

does anyone know if it's worth botheing ordering these products or what dvd players (r.2) require to play them, if they can at all.

btw, i think it's called RCE, can't remember now.

Jase
02-08-2002, 9:32 AM
Hi

Some of the discs that Play state as being RCE encoded, actually are´nt. I assume you already have a multiregion player if you are looking at buying R1 Discs? What player is it?

Most multiregion players can play RCE discs either straˇght off or via the disc swap trick or even a handset hack.

Vipen
02-08-2002, 9:35 AM
it's a toshiba sd220 multi region.

graham.myers
02-08-2002, 9:42 AM
Its not nessecerily what machine, but when it was chipped.

I've a multi region machine, but it predates the RCE fiasco. It wont therefore play RCE disks.

Any machine that has a handset hack for multi region should work.

The way RCE works is ...

A region 1 disk asks the player can you play region 1 and the player responds yes. happy bunny.

An RCE disk asks the same question, gets a yes, but then says "ahhh but can you play region 2?" A multi region play of course will say "absolutely gov'ner". so the RCE disks retorts "well you can stuff off then I'm not playing"

A hand job (oo er) via the remote would reply negative to the second question and thus be a happy bunny again.

02-08-2002, 9:47 AM
i think two or three studios decided to start using RCE on their R1 discs but very few discs are now (or have ever been) released with RCE encoding, Play seem to take the safe option and label all their R1 disks from those studios as being RCE, when in fact very few will be.

But as Jase says many Multi-region players will play RCE stuff with little or no trouble.

Vipen
02-08-2002, 9:49 AM
it's a brand new one straight out of the box. hmm, not sure what way to turn. those damn companies and their tactics!!!!

graham.myers
02-08-2002, 9:54 AM
if its brand new its highly likely to be RCE happy.

just buy a known RCE disk - hollow man, final fantasy and see if it plays. you can always sell it on ebay (or here)

02-08-2002, 9:54 AM
from a hifi/audio - visual specialist or a high street chain-type shop?

Garrett
02-08-2002, 9:58 AM
What make and model is it, we may be able to help you with an hack.

John-D
02-08-2002, 10:05 AM
My Sony DVD players multi-region chip predates the RCE DVD's, but RCE disc's play fine.

God bless Techtronics. :grin:

JD

Jase
02-08-2002, 10:06 AM
The Toshiba may well play the RCE disc straight away. If not, then the disc swap trick should work (works on my Toshiba 210). Just place a non RCE R1 disc in the player, let it start, then stop & eject it and put in the RCE disc.

Squirrel God
02-08-2002, 3:29 PM
Workarounds for RCE for various players are here:
http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/510-rce-regional-coding-enhancement.html

Some disk are often hyped as being RCE but aren't. A list of confirmed RCE titles can be found here:
http://www.pnc.com.au/~jmcmanus/rce.htm

Squirrel God
02-08-2002, 3:32 PM
Originally posted by graham.myers
The way RCE works is ...

A region 1 disk asks the player can you play region 1 and the player responds yes. happy bunny.

An RCE disk asks the same question, gets a yes, but then says "ahhh but can you play region 2?" A multi region play of course will say "absolutely gov'ner". so the RCE disks retorts "well you can stuff off then I'm not playing"
An RCE disk asks the player what region it is.

If the player says "I'm Region 1" then the disk will play.

If the player replies with anything else (including R0), then it won't play.

Thus, multiregion players must be already set to Region 1 before the disk checks which region it is.

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/RegionalCodeEnhancement/RCE.asp