View Full Version : 2 weeks to go - BUT - are YOU looking forward to it? (Casino Royale type thread)
Army Bloke
03-11-2006, 2:29 PM
2 weeks to go until the launch of IMO the biggest movie of the year - Casino Royale - but are YOU looking forward to it?
On the plus side, the director has already succesfully re-launcehd the franchise with the brilliant Goldeneye, so he seems to be able to introduce a new actor into the part quite well.
It seems that CR is going to follow the same trend as Batman Begins did last year by going back to the grass roots...Bond gets his 00 licence, makes his first kill etc.
Personally, I can't wait. If all the Bond fanboys have to complain about is that Daniel Craige is blonde...I say, at last - someone given the role on his ACTING ability rather than his looks...:thumbsup:
Praxidike
03-11-2006, 2:33 PM
If it's as good as Batman Begins, it'll be good!
I'm not usually a big fan of Bond really, I watch them when I get round to it.... but this one looks like it might be good enough for me to want to go and see it.
(I think M:I-3 was the biggest film of the year though. ;) )
Yes I am! And to get into the mood I've been watching all theBond movies in order, right now at the tail end of A View to a Kill. Suprisingly , I've found that Octopussy and For Your Eyes Only are actually alot better than I originally thought.
beagle five
03-11-2006, 3:56 PM
I really look forward to this movie, I never really liked brosnan. and daniel craig is just a completely different and really new bond and I think he will be GREAT as bond.
so this is a whole new era starting now, just wish they would make more bond movie, how about one a year? :-)
Battlestar
03-11-2006, 4:02 PM
The trailer gave it a must watch factor which made my mind up to go and see it. However, weather the film is actually ay good , remains to be seen:)
Army Bloke
03-11-2006, 4:17 PM
(I think M:I-3 was the biggest film of the year though. ;) )
I shall find out tonight - my R3 DVD dropped on the mat this morning :thumbsup:
raigraphixs
03-11-2006, 8:47 PM
Bond, sure looks good.
MI3; I shall find out tonight - my R3 DVD dropped on the mat this morning :thumbsup:
AND mine, along with 'Over the Hedge'. Not sure 100%, but i think the MI music is played in Over the Hedge, and it was also on 2nite at the fireworks display i attended. Coincidences, gotta love them.
If it's as good as Batman Begins, it'll be good!
I'm not usually a big fan of Bond really, I watch them when I get round to it.... but this one looks like it might be good enough for me to want to go and see it.
(I think M:I-3 was the biggest film of the year though. ;) )
I would agree with that.
This Bond looks like he might be more Bauer than Bond which I think is a good thing. I read the other day the next one will be a real sequel and carry straight on from CR, nice change.
chrislad
04-11-2006, 9:12 PM
Can't wait. Watching the other Bonds in anticipation.
Eddy.
04-11-2006, 10:02 PM
Couldn't care less.
Goooner
04-11-2006, 10:17 PM
Can't wait, really been looking forward to this.
Rambo John J
05-11-2006, 8:04 AM
as long as the guy can act (he's already proved it elsewhere:smashin: ) and they cut back on all the stupid gadgets and go more grass roots that'll be fine with me. I hear they had to trim the torture to get a 12A rating... when I was 12 I'm sure I wouldn't have objected to seeing some guy get busted in the nads with a carpet gripper rod, I saw worse than that in my head at that age just from reading books :rolleyes: Shame the studio didn't have the balls to accept a 15 rating :suicide:
Max Payne
05-11-2006, 12:18 PM
Really looking forward to this. Anyone who hasn't seen Layer Cake and comment on Craig not being suitable for the role, really is missing out.
I thought he was great in Layer Cake and as long as he's brings the same carisma he showed there, he should be a great Bond.
Army Bloke
05-11-2006, 12:20 PM
Couldn't care less.
So why post then? is your post count REALLY that important to you...?:rolleyes:
Garrett
05-11-2006, 12:30 PM
I hope the threads still around who gave the Daniel Craig a thums down before even seeing the film, as it looks to be a alot better than a lot of the Brosnans which after the last effort, (not Pierce faut) I was thinking of never seeing ona again at the cinama.
sore napper
05-11-2006, 1:15 PM
I like the Bond movies when they come out and enjoy them on first viewing.
Thats about that, I find it hard to watch them a second time.
The older the Bond movie the harder it is for me to watch.
Pity
I like the Bond movies when they come out and enjoy them on first viewing.
Thats about that, I find it hard to watch them a second time.
The older the Bond movie the harder it is for me to watch.
Pity
Same here, I can't even watch any before Goldeneye they all come across as very plain and boring, most think Connery is the best Bond but if he's the best spy the goverment has got god help us.
I thought Die Another Day was OK first time but absolutely awful now (not including orange bikini:)). The bit with ice landslide and parasurfing, bad idea, bad cgi just terrible:thumbsdow
The series has needed a fresh update for a while hopefully this it.
johndon
05-11-2006, 5:26 PM
Early reviews are very positive: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6116286.stm?ls
John
Army Bloke
05-11-2006, 6:56 PM
Early reviews are very positive: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6116286.stm?ls
John
That's excelent news...:smashin:
I've read three reviews and they've all been good.
MrFurious
06-11-2006, 4:59 PM
looking forward to this one, its over 2 hours long too which will help bed in the new bond, and the reviews are very positive
drunkenmaster
07-11-2006, 4:48 PM
When originally announced I did have my reservations casting Craigo, but the idea of the film - A sort of Bond Begins with a splash of rawness has made me rethink and I will probably go and watch it.
I have watched all the Bond movies... well from OHMSS at the cinema (showing my age!!), apart from the last two as it was getting ludicrous. So it might be a good thing to see 007 from a different viewpoint.
MrFurious
07-11-2006, 5:16 PM
last great bond films were the timothy dalton ones.
so i look forward to a decent bond again
DTSFan2001
07-11-2006, 11:01 PM
I'm really looking forward to this one, trailer looks good and the guys in head office who have seen it say it's a very good one. Yeah, the torture scene was cut, apparently there's a scene where he's sitting butt-naked tied to a chair with no seat. And he gets whipped in the unmentionables many times. The v2 trailer where the building is crashing down and Bond crashes his Aston gives me goosebumps! Hope we get our 3 copies of it really early in the week. We have a charity screening on Wed so we'll get it before then.
So why post then? is your post count REALLY that important to you...?:rolleyes:
Erm no, I was responding to a QUESTION in the thread title. http://ads.tennisuniverse.com/wtaworld/images/smilies/retard.gif
If you are gagging to see James Blond, played by an ugly actor with the charisma of a ham sandwich, then woopydeedooda to you. :)
Pincho Paxton
08-11-2006, 7:55 AM
Not sure about this movie. Hated Goldeneye... and most of Pierce Brosnan Bond movies. My favourite Bond movie is Live And Let Die because it is darker than most Bond movies with the BlackMagic element, and great soundtrack, and boats jumping out of water, and a comedy element as well. I would like to see something like that again.
inzaman
08-11-2006, 1:30 PM
When originally announced I did have my reservations casting Craigo, but the idea of the film - A sort of Bond Begins with a splash of rawness has made me rethink and I will probably go and watch it.
Those were my feelings too, but like you i too will go and see this; in fact i am quite looking forward to it.
Erm no, I was responding to a QUESTION in the thread title. http://ads.tennisuniverse.com/wtaworld/images/smilies/retard.gif
If you are gagging to see James Blond, played by an ugly actor with the charisma of a ham sandwich, then woopydeedooda to you. :)
I thought it was strange him asking that questions considering what the OP was asking.
Does it concern you that much he has to be good looking man that it will stop you watching an action thriller about a spy ?
Pincho Paxton
09-11-2006, 9:55 AM
Does it concern you that much he has to be good looking man that it will stop you watching an action thriller about a spy ?
The way they look bugs me.. I never got used to Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft... Can't adapt very well to the new Batman Begins actor, not keen on the new Superman Returns actor, and not keen on this Casino Royale actor.
Army Bloke
09-11-2006, 4:59 PM
The way they look bugs me.. I never got used to Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft... Can't adapt very well to the new Batman Begins actor, not keen on the new Superman Returns actor, and not keen on this Casino Royale actor.
But 2 out of the three you mentioned can actually act. Bond's been missing that aspect since Timothy Dalton.
The way they look bugs me.. I never got used to Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft... Can't adapt very well to the new Batman Begins actor, not keen on the new Superman Returns actor, and not keen on this Casino Royale actor.
I thought they could have done better than Jolie for TR but Batman and Superman I think are absolutely perfect.
Craig isn't classic Bond but thats a good thing.
Tejstar
10-11-2006, 7:16 AM
I'm actually quite looking to the movie. It looks a bit more raw than other Bond movies of the past. Very intrigued to see how Craig plays Bond too.
I was going to wait until it came to DVD, but with getting a pair of free tickets for the first showing at the Shepherds Bush Vue cinema, i don't have to wait!!
:clap: Should be a good night!
JagoPlasma
14-11-2006, 1:24 AM
have to say bond for me recently has been a mixed bag. I am a big fan of moore and brosnan. yet I liked dolton and connery too. as of late bond has concentrated more and more on visual effects and crazy plots. to me this new bond is a dream come true. I want my gritty bond where the movie is about bond and no one else.
my tickets were booked weeks ago :thumbsup:
Phil Hinton
14-11-2006, 1:46 AM
Erm no, I was responding to a QUESTION in the thread title. http://ads.tennisuniverse.com/wtaworld/images/smilies/retard.gif
If you are gagging to see James Blond, played by an ugly actor with the charisma of a ham sandwich, then woopydeedooda to you. :)
This kind of post is one we can do without on the forums, if you cannot express your opinion in a constructive manner then please refrain from posting the likes of the above and please read the announcement regarding a change of attitudes on this forum.
Pincho Paxton
14-11-2006, 7:28 AM
Saw Daniel Craig's Bond on Jonathon Ross's film 2006, and was very dissapointed with the whole thing. Yes the film looks great, but it is the Alien 3 of the Bond world. It just doesn't work as a Bond movie at all. If I can watch it and say to myself... "This is not a Bond movie" then I will enjoy it. It's more like a Transporter movie than a Bond movie. I will never class it as a Bond movie. He is mainly too big. In the other Bond films he would have easily beat all of the bad guys, and so makes the following Bond movies redundant. (Following as in Casino Royal is the first Bond Movie) No.. I see Bond as intelligence over brawn, his intelligence beats the much bigger opponents, and that is why I enjoy it.
Army Bloke
14-11-2006, 7:43 AM
Saw Daniel Craig's Bond on Jonathon Ross's film 2006, and was very dissapointed with the whole thing. Yes the film looks great, but it is the Alien 3 of the Bond world. It just doesn't work as a Bond movie at all. If I can watch it and say to myself... "This is not a Bond movie" then I will enjoy it. It's more like a Transporter movie than a Bond movie. I will never class it as a Bond movie. He is mainly too big. In the other Bond films he would have easily beat all of the bad guys, and so makes the following Bond movies redundant. (Following as in Casino Royal is the first Bond Movie) No.. I see Bond as intelligence over brawn, his intelligence beats the much bigger opponents, and that is why I enjoy it.
Strange that - going by the trailer on the Odeon website, I think entirely the opposite. This is how Bond should be!! (IMO of course..). If he WASN'T as big and bulky as daniel Craig potrays him, then in past films, I don't see how he could have beaten certain villians. Oddjob from Goldfinger and Robert Shaw's character spring immediatly to mind.
However, I'm going tosee it on Thursday night, so will have a look in here on Friday morning. If I have to come cap in hand, I will no problem. But 've a feeling this is going to be great.
Pincho Paxton
14-11-2006, 8:11 AM
Strange that - going by the trailer on the Odeon website, I think entirely the opposite. This is how Bond should be!! (IMO of course..). If he WASN'T as big and bulky as daniel Craig potrays him, then in past films, I don't see how he could have beaten certain villians. Oddjob from Goldfinger and Robert Shaw's character spring immediatly to mind.
However, I'm going tosee it on Thursday night, so will have a look in here on Friday morning. If I have to come cap in hand, I will no problem. But 've a feeling this is going to be great.
The trailer annoys me as well. 'M' being a woman annoys me to start with because it is supposed to be the first Bond, so should go back to a man to be a bit consistent. At least you can explain that 'M' is a codename so the person replacing them is also called 'M', but to have Judie Dench twice, who leaves, and then returns, but is older at the beginning than the end, is just too obscure for me.
Army Bloke
14-11-2006, 8:22 AM
The trailer annoys me as well. 'M' being a woman annoys me to start with because it is supposed to be the first Bond, so should go back to a man to be a bit consistent. At least you can explain that 'M' is a codename so the person replacing them is also called 'M', but to have Judie Dench twice, who leaves, and then returns, but is older at the beginning than the end, is just too obscure for me.
I think you may be taking this a bit to seriously mate TBH - after all, Daniel Craig is the 6th person (and only the 2nd actor) to play Bond with no apparent reason for the change. At least in Dr Who, there's a reason why his appearance changes...
Pincho Paxton
14-11-2006, 9:37 AM
I think you may be taking this a bit to seriously mate TBH - after all, Daniel Craig is the 6th person (and only the 2nd actor) to play Bond with no apparent reason for the change. At least in Dr Who, there's a reason why his appearance changes...
Well that agrees with me then. In Dr Who the appearence can change, but in Bond you need someone with dark hair, and a medium build. Why you used that as an argument I am not sure? I mean to go to the extreme... would you be happy with a blonde Bond, or an dark skinned Bond? I have been happy with all of the Bond's until now.. unless you count David Niven.
Army Bloke
14-11-2006, 9:46 AM
Well that agrees with me then. In Dr Who the appearence can change, but in Bond you need someone with dark hair, and a medium build. Why you used that as an argument I am not sure? I mean to go to the extreme... would you be happy with a blonde Bond, or an african Bond?
It's not an argument - it's an observation. You pointed that you couldn't explain why M was played by Judi Dench as this film is set before Dr No (it was, after all, the first Bond novel written by Flemming). I pointed out that Danile Craig is in fact the 6th person to play Bond in the mainstraem movies with no explanation in the film why his appearance has changed...as Bond fans, it's something we expect. The director of Casino Royale introduced Dame Judi in Goldeneye...why would he want to change it?
The press had their screening last night ahead of tonights world premier. I saw a journalist on Sky news this morning saying that Brosnan just wouldn't have pulled it off. The story just wouldn't have allowed it. But then again, I suppose that brings us back to your Judi Dench point. I think we'll have to wait until Friday or we've both seen it...as for your last point, wasn't Michael Salmon in the running for the part at one stage?
If the film makers were that bothered about it, why didn't they make Craig wear a wig? Ian Flemings own description of Bond for the silver screen was this:He likes gambling, golf, and fast motor cars. He smokes a great deal, but without affectation. All his movements are relaxed and economical - nothing about height, race, colour, creed or HAIR COLOUR;) :grin:
And Roger Moore was useless - lbeit aided and abbeted by some lousy scripts and dodgy clothes.:god:
Saw Daniel Craig's Bond on Jonathon Ross's film 2006, and was very dissapointed with the whole thing. Yes the film looks great, but it is the Alien 3 of the Bond world. It just doesn't work as a Bond movie at all. If I can watch it and say to myself... "This is not a Bond movie" then I will enjoy it. It's more like a Transporter movie than a Bond movie. I will never class it as a Bond movie. He is mainly too big. In the other Bond films he would have easily beat all of the bad guys, and so makes the following Bond movies redundant. (Following as in Casino Royal is the first Bond Movie) No.. I see Bond as intelligence over brawn, his intelligence beats the much bigger opponents, and that is why I enjoy it.
Alien3 of the Bond world ?:suicide:
Alien3 killed well loved characters and destroyed the story and the direction fans wanted it to go.
The new Bond just looks to be in shape and has different coloured hair.
If he died his hair and ate all the pies, would that make him Bond to you ?
The problem with the last Bond film was that it was more Transporter than Goldeneye.
Kieron
14-11-2006, 11:16 AM
"2 weeks to go - BUT - are YOU looking forward to it? (Casino Royale type thread)"
In reply to the original poster topic title (and my post count is fine thanks), I also really couldn't care less about this movie.
I'm not looking forward to it. I won't be going to see it, I didn't see the last one.
Last Bond movie I enjoyed was Goldeneye.
When it's on Boxing Day 2010 I might watch it if I can't get up out of my chair after overeating/overdrinking on Xmas Eve and Day.....
DTSFan2001
14-11-2006, 11:17 AM
C'mon guys, only a couple of days to go. Lets make our minds up once we've seen it! Hopefully be able to watch it tonight!! So excited!! :clap:
Pincho Paxton
14-11-2006, 11:19 AM
Colin Salmon..... why mess with it like that?
I can't rant forever, and I can't stop the movie. I could accept Daniel Craig's movies as a seperate start for James Bond, and put them in a seperate pile, so long as the actors that follow him are similar to him, and so long as the Bad guys get huge, or robotic limbs or something. I just think that James Bond should look vulnerable.
Having said all that... Daniel Craig did not start off big, or too craggy faced. He could have worked without working out so much, and by dying his hair to black. That would have been great. Some picture from a couple of years ago look perfect. Mind you... that just says that his features are going to change even more for the following movies. He looks old already.
Army Bloke
14-11-2006, 11:22 AM
Last Bond movie I enjoyed was Goldeneye.
which was directed by Martin Campbell - who directs Casino Royale. You never know, you may be pleasantly supprised. And you are right - the last decent Bond movie WAS Goldeneye.
Army Bloke
14-11-2006, 11:23 AM
Colin Salmon..... why mess with it like that?
I don't know mate...but it made sense before you edited your post...;)
Kieron
14-11-2006, 12:06 PM
which was directed by Martin Campbell - who directs Casino Royale. You never know, you may be pleasantly supprised. And you are right - the last decent Bond movie WAS Goldeneye.
Tell you what. I'm going to go see it. I've no idea why, but i'll take the risk as there isn't anything else released that I fancy in that week.
As you say, it's directed by Martin Campbell who's done it once with Brosnan being the big change, so let's see what he does with this new chap.
If it's great then i'll admit I was totally wrong - and I have to say, that I'm the most critical person going. But i'm going to give it a go. I'll also let you know what the Mrs thinks!
Can't believe I'm being so open minded on a Tuesday....
Only thing putting me off, is that it's set before all the Bond films (meaning he can't die - not that he would do anyway) but why is Judi Dench still M? (or is Brosnan now dead so this guy gets his old number?)
Tell you what. I'm going to go see it. I've no idea why, but i'll take the risk as there isn't anything else released that I fancy in that week.
As you say, it's directed by Martin Campbell who's done it once with Brosnan being the big change, so let's see what he does with this new chap.
If it's great then i'll admit I was totally wrong - and I have to say, that I'm the most critical person going. But i'm going to give it a go. I'll also let you know what the Mrs thinks!
Can't believe I'm being so open minded on a Tuesday....
Only thing putting me off, is that it's set before all the Bond films (meaning he can't die - not that he would do anyway) but why is Judi Dench still M? (or is Brosnan now dead so this guy gets his old number?)
I think it's a total reboot, nothing to do with any other previous Bond film at all. Judi Dench is probably M because it worked well.
Army Bloke
14-11-2006, 2:28 PM
Tell you what. I'm going to go see it. I've no idea why, but i'll take the risk as there isn't anything else released that I fancy in that week.
As you say, it's directed by Martin Campbell who's done it once with Brosnan being the big change, so let's see what he does with this new chap.
If it's great then i'll admit I was totally wrong - and I have to say, that I'm the most critical person going. But i'm going to give it a go. I'll also let you know what the Mrs thinks!
Can't believe I'm being so open minded on a Tuesday....
Only thing putting me off, is that it's set before all the Bond films (meaning he can't die - not that he would do anyway) but why is Judi Dench still M? (or is Brosnan now dead so this guy gets his old number?)
Good man. I to will eat humble pie if it's crap. However, in the 2 hours or so since I last posted here, I've watched the re-mastered version of Dr No. Now I see what all the fuss was about with that bikini!! Looks like Ursula had one of the first Brazillians!!:lease: :thumbsdow :grin:
domtheone
14-11-2006, 11:21 PM
which was directed by Martin Campbell - who directs Casino Royale. You never know, you may be pleasantly supprised. And you are right - the last decent Bond movie WAS Goldeneye.
I only just realised this after watching a piece on 5th Gear about it.:eek:
Certainly raises my hopes somewhat as Goldeneye was indeed the last grfeat bond Film.:smashin:
One of my all time faves and a fantastic debut in the Bond Franchise from Bronsan/Campbell.
Glad that it appears they're going back to live action stunts etc etc instead of the ghastly invisible car CGI nonsense:nono:
Definately going to see it and my expectations have risen somewhat now. Whether that's a good thing or not, time will tell.:god:
JagoPlasma
14-11-2006, 11:39 PM
as for craig being bulky. remember he's new. just out of the navy(tho he was an officer) and probably relys on braun over brain. this is where he is supposed to learn to use his brain and shake off rookie mistakes.
as for judi. think of it as a stage play, after a few years the lead role will get replaced which can be a shock.keeping a few familiar faces in can help you into the new feel. its a good idea and judi is a good M. I think we will just have to forget the introduction in goldeneye
I'm off too see this tonight. http://www.avforums.com/forums/images/smilies/luxhello.gif
I'll post back tonight or tomorrow with my thoughts. :smashin:
Can I just say that I am so pleased to see the reviews of this.
And I am even more pleased to see "Daniel Craig is not Bond" put in their place. :grin:
Tejstar
15-11-2006, 7:00 AM
Are there any credible reviews out right now? I've only seen some from the tabloids, which I don't entierly trust. :god:
Army Bloke
15-11-2006, 8:24 AM
Are there any credible reviews out right now? I've only seen some from the tabloids, which I don't entierly trust. :god:
I don't know how much you trust Empire magazine...?
Empire's Review (http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/review.asp?FID=10199)
4 Stars!!:thumbsup:
The positive reviews are good to see but didn't 'Die Another Day' get good reviews also ?
Army Bloke
15-11-2006, 8:43 AM
The positive reviews are good to see but didn't 'Die Another Day' get good reviews also ?
Here's the Empire review for that movie-
Empire's DAD Review (http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?DVDID=9014)
Not quite as positive as CR and the majority of the praise seems to be for the way Brosnan holds the character together in a pretty weak film...(or am I reading between the lines...?)
Pincho Paxton
15-11-2006, 9:33 AM
I like Die Another Day. Invisible car is completely credible, you only need cameras all round the car, and project the back image on the front of the car etc. Pierce Brosnan was ok as bond, but his first couple of films were not very good.
Can I just say that I am so pleased to see the reviews of this.
And I am even more pleased to see "Daniel Craig is not Bond" put in their place.
Nobody has convinced me of anything. The film can be absolutely fantastic. I will probably enjoy it, but I will never see it as a true Bond Movie.
Army Bloke
15-11-2006, 9:36 AM
Nobody has convinced me of anything. The film can be absolutely fantastic. I will probably enjoy it, but I will never see it as a true Bond Movie.
Can I just ask why? At least it's based on a book that Fleming wrote - which is more than DAD was...
And can I ask you - what is your favourite Bond movie and why...?
Tejstar
15-11-2006, 9:41 AM
I don't know how much you trust Empire magazine...?
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/review.asp?FID=10199
4 Stars!!:thumbsup:
Seems to be a reasonable review and the general consensus on Craig as Bond is very positive!
Pincho Paxton
15-11-2006, 10:58 AM
Can I just ask why? At least it's based on a book that Fleming wrote - which is more than DAD was...
And can I ask you - what is your favourite Bond movie and why...?
Because I haven't read the book. The book is not my reference point, Ian Fleming's Bond is not my Bond. Same with Harry Potter.. the films are my reference point.. if Potter becomes dark skinned, I am just watching something that looks fake. When watching a film, you have to remember that it is not fake, not acting, you have to immerse yourself in the whole portrayal of each character. How can I not remember that this Bond is not fake when my memories of Bond are that he is medium build with dark hair? Stored images, stored names, stored stories.. I can't just ignore my own memories.
My favourite Bond film is Live and Let Die. It is dark, it has voodoo, and lots of action. The music is my favourite music score, and it has great ideas, like running accross crocodiles, and blowing someone up with compressed gas. It ends with something mysterious.
I like Die Another Day. Invisible car is completely credible, you only need cameras all round the car, and project the back image on the front of the car etc. Pierce Brosnan was ok as bond, but his first couple of films were not very good.
Making an object appear invisible using camera's is credible, having an Aston Martin with no visible cameras, no visible projectors (seriously powerful ones) and giving this invisible car to a british spy so he can hide it at a party isn't credible, not in my book anyway.
Because I haven't read the book. The book is not my reference point, Ian Fleming's Bond is not my Bond. Same with Harry Potter.. the films are my reference point.. if Potter becomes dark skinned, I am just watching something that looks fake. When watching a film, you have to remember that it is not fake, not acting, you have to immerse yourself in the whole portrayal of each character. How can I not remember that this Bond is not fake when my memories of Bond are that he is medium build with dark hair? Stored images, stored names, stored stories.. I can't just ignore my own memories.
My favourite Bond film is Live and Let Die. It is dark, it has voodoo, and lots of action. The music is my favourite music score, and it has great ideas, like running accross crocodiles, and blowing someone up with compressed gas. It ends with something mysterious.
Why are you willing to accept James Bond turning from a Scottish guy, to an English guy, to a Welsh guy and then to an Irish guy (with an american accent) and the fact that he got younger as the years moved on but you can't accept that he's in shape and has lighter hair ?
It's not like he's the Hulk or got a Legolas wig on.
Craig looks like a medium build to me.
For me the problem with most of the older Bond films is that he's this trained super spy but looks like he couldn't fight his way ouy of a paper bag.
Live and Let Die is an awesome song and I've always loved the running on crocodiles scene, have you seen the making of that bit when the guy trips and a croc nearly has him ?
Army Bloke
15-11-2006, 11:45 AM
I think it's time to put to bed this myth that Daniel Craig is to big and stocky to play Bond. How many people here knew that Sean Connery was a PROFFESIONAL body builder before he found fame as a spy...?
Click Here (http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/classicbodybuilders2.html) and scroll down...
Garrett
15-11-2006, 12:52 PM
I think it's time to put to bed this myth that Daniel Craig is to big and stocky to play Bond. How many people here knew that Sean Connery was a PROFFESIONAL body builder before he found fame as a spy...?
Click Here (http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/classicbodybuilders2.html) and scroll down...I did for one;)
Garrett
15-11-2006, 1:05 PM
Why are you willing to accept James Bond turning from a Scottish guy, to an English guy, to a Welsh guy and then to an Irish guy (with an american accent) and the fact that he got younger as the years moved on but you can't accept that he's in shape and has lighter hair ?
Have to point out Timothy Dalton was of mixed parentage one being English and the other not being Welsh. And was only born in Wales as his father was stationed ther during the war. He was born in 1944 and before the turn of the decade was living just south of Manchester.
And although maybe never as big as star as the other Bonds is probably the better actor of the lot. Also I never deteted a Welsh accent on him.
Kieron
15-11-2006, 2:00 PM
Well folks, I've actually managed to grab a couple of seats for a preview showing tonight at 7:45pm, so I'm off to see it before I thought I could.
I'll be back online later on of course to give my views, actually looking forward to it now (just shows what a closed-minded idiot I can be sometimes as I first said I had no interest in it...:grin: )
Pincho Paxton
15-11-2006, 4:49 PM
Making an object appear invisible using camera's is credible, having an Aston Martin with no visible cameras, no visible projectors (seriously powerful ones) and giving this invisible car to a british spy so he can hide it at a party isn't credible, not in my book anyway.
Well cameras are very small now, and those are the ones that you can buy for surveilance. Of course 'Q' could develop a smaller camera, in fact he probably has in the past, but I can't remember. Then the skin of the car can be the screen, like the new screen on paper material, that has moving images on paper type material. Then if you want extra credibility, you do a heat scan of the area to see where the viewer is standing, or sitting, and portray the image from the opposite camera. I mean you can add whatever you like to this description, it is possible. There is a coat that turns the wearer invisible, but is done with projectors, however that was before the new textile televisions were invented. So now, you don't need the projector.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUcU4h4bS9U
As for the Craig/Bond debate, I don't want to get boring on the matter.
Have to point out Timothy Dalton was of mixed parentage one being English and the other not being Welsh. And was only born in Wales as his father was stationed ther during the war. He was born in 1944 and before the turn of the decade was living just south of Manchester.
And although maybe never as big as star as the other Bonds is probably the better actor of the lot. Also I never deteted a Welsh accent on him.
Oh, I think his Welsh accent comes across an awful lot. There are many occasions in LTK and TLD.
But the best examples can be found in Flash Gordon especially "Freeze you bloody bastards."
DTSFan2001
15-11-2006, 6:52 PM
Watched Casino Royale last night and have to say it's probably one of the best, if not the best film I have seen this year!! {Note: Obviously this is my own personal view and some may not agree} It's action from start to finish and every minute is enjoyable, from the amazing chase scene through the construction site to the climax. Being from a Sony pictures company there's a few Sony products in there (including some Blu-Ray players used at a hotel to playback recorded cctv, you'll know when you see it). Daniel Craig, although not looking like a Bond (Though as the film progresses you get used to it) has a very strong "Bond" vibe which doesn't make you think you're just watching any old action film...he plays a very believable Bond, In fact quite a cold, unemotional bond. I don't want to give much of it away however, but I can say that all the positive reviews are absolutely correct and this gets a huge thumbs up and recommendation from me :thumbsup:. If anyone has any questions about the film, just ask!
Kieron
15-11-2006, 10:48 PM
Well, I've just got back from our regional premiere.
Ok, first off - Daniel Craig.
He's great. Definate bond for the future, sorry Pierce etc - your suaveness was great for a while, but Craig is a great choice to take over.
He reminded me a little of Timothy Dalton (bear with me...) He displays Bond as a slightly flawed character - one that sometimes fails to keep his emotions in check. I really liked this about Dalton, and I really like this about Craig. Makes for a much more believable experience.
Film.
Well, breaking it down into quarters. First 2 quarters - brilliant. Lots of action, suspense, great story.
Third quarter. Loooooooonnnngggggg. Long by 20-30 minutes.
Last quarter. Good. Rather confusing, almost rushed, but a pretty good finale.
Don't want to post too much in case I spoil.
So this movie could have been fabulous. As it is, it's good not great. Not as good as Goldeneye - sorry....
Shining points - Daniel Craig. Great believable action. Not overdoing the gadgets. Great support cast. Judi Dench.
Bad points.......
Long third quarter.
Too much product placement. There was so much Sony product in this movie I thought he was going to whip out a PS3. Lot of Ford cars in there too. Mondeo - still a Mondeo even if Bond is driving.
Richard Branson. "Oh look" said everybody in the cinema, "it's Richard Branson".
Rather convoluted ending.
So all in all. Would I recommend it?
If I were a schoolteacher I would mark it thus....
B+ Could do better.
Finally, I'm looking forward to the next Bond movie with Daniel Craig in it. I will go to see it.
I wasn't looking forward to this one. Was I wrong - yes. He's fantastic.
I've heard that the next film carries straight on as a proper sequel.
Tejstar
16-11-2006, 9:02 AM
Well I've heard positive reviews for this from a number of different forumites. This may just be the film I see in the pictures this year...
It's more like a Transporter movie than a Bond movie. I will never class it as a Bond movie.
Ha ha, this Bond film is nothing like The Transporter ROFL
Army Bloke
18-11-2006, 8:23 AM
Managed to see it last night - and in between the text messages the dickhead next to me was sending & receiving, I saw a pretty decent BOND film.
No CGI pooh - all the inredible stunts seemed to have been carried out by human beings!!:eek:
Did drag on a little for me around the poker table as well...but, at the end of the day, the story is centred around the poker game.
For me, it was the best Bond film since The Living Daylights.
As for Daniel Craig? Thumbsup from me. When he kills someone, you believe he's actually doing it. No emotion, no remorse. Stone cold assasin, just as Fleming created him. Could it be that's his acting abilities are a little to good to play Bond as we know him...?
HOWEVER, on the way home, my Mrs said she could never get used to him as Bond - he's got blonde hair...:suicide: :rolleyes:
Pincho Paxton
18-11-2006, 1:08 PM
HOWEVER, on the way home, my Mrs said she could never get used to him as Bond - he's got blonde hair...
I know how she feels.