component to vga help!!!

[jagdeepp]

GUys,

i have a sony broadcast plasma. The humdinger is that it doesnt have component/dvi in at all. It has a VGA input. My amp/receiver has a componenet out.

the question is, can i use a component to vga cable as that i've found on ebay? click below:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YUV-RGB-TO-VGA...QQcmdZViewItem

OR do i go for a dedicated convertor with its own power supply and costing 150 quid!? See below:

http://www.js-technology.com/product...4855c553a66da6

The difference is some 100 odd quid. I am absolutely baffled. I have a rgb scart to vga connector which has no added attachments (Syncblaster i beleive) and that does the trick.. but from time to time it would play up and i'd need to reset the screen. I dont really want to be spending the xtra money for nothing. Please help...

[Neil Davidson]

You will almost certainly need to look at one of Dr John Sim's convertor boxes.

The component signal from your amp is very different to a VGA signal and hence needs to be processed and converted in to the VGA signal your plasma will accept.

Some displays allow you to supply a component signal on to the VGA connector which the display then processes (Sharp for example) and you could possibly gte away with the cable only in that instance.

HTH

Neil

[jagdeepp]

I hear what you say.. but then why do volumes of people buy this cable? My plasma is a sony broadcast panel pfm-421x and has YUV and Yn (whatever the rest are) compatibilty.. I am minded to place an order for the cable and give it a shot.. i guess if theres a money back guarantee i cant go wrong?

Anyone else able to assist?

[Neil Davidson]

If it has YPbPr then you are laughing and give the cable a shot.

Presumably your model has menu setting that allows you to define the input type on the VGA connector?

Neil

[jagdeepp]

Its currently packed away so i'm unable to check.. but the manual suggests as follows:

"INPUT 1 RGB: Selects the signal (analog RBG)

INPUT 2: YUV: Selects the signal (component)

Video Composite

Video Y/C ( I think this is s-video) "

Is YUV a component source? it seems to suggest in the manual that it will allow RGB/YUV through a 15pin D-subpin(vga).

Originally Posted by ceenhad

If it has YPbPr then you are laughing and give the cable a shot.

Presumably your model has menu setting that allows you to define the input type on the VGA connector?

Neil

[Joe Fernand]

Hello jagdeep

Initially you said no Component Input on your Display but the Manual says Input 02 is YPbPr - that's Component video using its 'technical' name.

Once you know what sockets are on Input 02 you can choose the correct cable.

The JS Technology RGB2VGA converter takes the 576 line 50Hz SCART RGB+Composite video signal from a Digibox or DVD player and converts it to a 576 line 50Hz RGBHV signal that is compatible with the VGA Input on any Display that has a VGA sockets that's compatible with a 576 line 'video' signal.

The SyncBlaster unit you have works in a similar fashion to the JS Technology converter - though for me its not such a reliable unit so not one I'd choose to use.

The 3RCA to HD15(VGA) cables you see are passive cables that simply connect the Y (Green) Pb (Blue) and Pr(Red) Outputs from a Source device equipped with 'Component' Video Outputs to a Display that is YPbPr compatible on its HD15(VGA) socket - not all Displays are compatible with YPbPr via HD15(VGA) which is why these passive cables don't work for everyone.

Best regards

Joe

[Mark Grant]

Originally Posted by jagdeepp

I am minded to place an order for the cable and give it a shot.. i guess if theres a money back guarantee i cant go wrong?

Hello jagdeepp,

The ebay seller you are linking to looks to be in Germany.

Might be better to buy from a UK supplier if you are thinking you might be returning stuff for refund, as posting that 5 metre cable back to Germany would cost you about £7.50, and you would have already paid £4.90 delivery charge that you wont get back.


Mark.

[jagdeepp]

Thanks for the advice Mark.. i see you're selling the same cable for some 60quid. ;-)

But reading into my manual and what i've quoted above does that not suggest that it should take component?

[Joe Fernand]

Hello jagdeepp

I doubt very much if Mark (Grant) is selling 'the same' cable as you linked to - he may be selling cables configured as 3RCA to HD15(VGA) but the similarities stop there.

The quality of the cable, connectors and termination all have an affect on image quality - a low cost/quality moulded cable will produce inferior results to a hand made cable using high quality components; the larger the image and higher resolution the signal your working with the more you'll see the differences.

I guess the low cost cable is a good gamble and you can always go for a better quality cable once your happy that the system is working as required.

Best regards

Joe

[Mark Grant]

Originally Posted by jagdeepp

i see you're selling the same cable for some 60quid. ;-)

Its not the same cable at all, my VGA to component is the best quality and performance available on the planet, ebay one is the cheapest possible from a sweatshop in the Far East

You should see whats inside some of the ebay cables.. !


I would say a VGA to component will work with ypur plasma looking at what has been posted.


If you are looking for cheap rather than high quality (its only a plasma afterall ) there must be a UK ebay seller somwehere rather than Germany.

The reason you have a trouble finding them is not many cheap places sell them due to the chance of returns and support emails etc, as VGA to component always easy.

(picture attached of a high quality hand made high performance cable )

Mark.

[jagdeepp]

I'm not being funny or mocking you.. but ;-) OH THE IRONY!!! you say your cable isnt made in a sweatshop in the far east.. Looking at the pic of your cable its clearly marked "Made in Japan".. if my geography is correct thats still the Far East and the kid that made ur cable probably got promoted to sewing footballs and trainers for Nike.. Joke!

No.. i hear what u say and ur right. I'm taking a gamble going for a cheaper cable especially if its going to be chased into the wall..

with regard to sweatshops though.. people rave about british brands like Arcam. Unfortunately here, the idea whilst British, the components are actuallly still put together by underpaid persons in China ;-) its a capitalist and sad world we live in..everything is madein India, China, Malaysia or Japan ;-) but at least the arcam sounds great... so thats some consilation (spelt wrong i know!) I'm sure ur cable provides greater clarity than the ebay one in any event and point taken.

Thanks!

[Mark Grant]

I'm not being funny or mocking you.. but ;-) OH THE IRONY!!!

I know , I just noticed that

I meant china, there is a big difference between the stuff from Japan and China.

The Canare bulk cable is imported from Japan, arrives here un-terminated on 1 Km drums, canare RCA connectors imported from Japan, VGA shell is actually a UK manufactured part.

I fit the VGA connectors myself, as no one else I know can fit such large coax cores into a VGA connector. Everyone else uses mini coax.

I'm taking a gamble going for a cheaper cable especially if its going to be chased into the wall..

best to test your cable with your plasma before you plaster it in the wall !
will only take 5 minutes to unbox the plasma and test.

Good luck !


Mark.

[12 promises]

Originally Posted by Mark Grant

Its not the same cable at all, my VGA to component is the best quality and performance available on the planet, ebay one is the cheapest possible from a sweatshop in the Far East

You should see whats inside some of the ebay cables.. !


I would say a VGA to component will work with ypur plasma looking at what has been posted.


If you are looking for cheap rather than high quality (its only a plasma afterall ) there must be a UK ebay seller somwehere rather than Germany.

The reason you have a trouble finding them is not many cheap places sell them due to the chance of returns and support emails etc, as VGA to component always easy.

(picture attached of a high quality hand made high performance cable )

Mark.

i have this cable made by mark and it is superb............dont buy crap,buy reasonably priced quality from mg
i use the cable from my denon 3806 into hitachi 42pd5200.