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Old 30-06-2002, 3:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm getting quite excited about the new DVHS film format which displays films at 1920x1080i. Since there aren't too many 1080i scalers around, is this format good enough to be fed direct to a CRT?
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You are likely to see can lines on 8 and 9" crt's but I think it'll look pretty nice on a CRT. In fact, I hope to be able to post an evaluation of such a thing within the next three or so weeks...

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Old 30-06-2002, 7:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Good stuff, I look forward to your report. I was thinking of getting the next generation player if enough good titles are released.
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Don't the DVHS output at 720p as well? Or is that just what they are potentaily capable of?

A true picture at 720p rethwe than a scaled DVD image must look great, there must be loads more detail than a sclaed DVD.
 
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They'll record 720p broadcasts and they'll play back 720P material. However, the DVHS tapes that are on sale are 1080i.

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Hey Jeff: I just remembered. I saw 1080i on the Madrigal MP9 at HiFi show in Hammersmith last year. Looked good....
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What about the old image degradation we see on ordinary VHS tapes? Would this not be an issue here?

I have always seen DVD or any other disc-based media as a more reliable source...

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Saw U-571 @ 1080i on a g70 firing onto a Stewart Sudiotek 1.3 gian, there were absolutely no scan lines whatsoever. PQ was in one word, amazing
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What about the old image degradation we see on ordinary VHS tapes? Would this not be an issue here?

I have always seen DVD or any other disc-based media as a more reliable source...

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There won't be a gradual degradation as per the analogue format. You'll get a total break up of the picture as you do with Sky Digital. Tape is certainly more robust than disc, I'm happy for my kids to handle tapes but not DVDs. Time will tell but I'm sure the tape will be good for at least 100+ viewings with no degradation or breakup.
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But if you handle the DVD with care it lasts forever.
I for one will not buy tapes for £30 that will last for x years and then be corrupt.

No thank you.
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Masters are kept on tape so they better last a few years.
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But I don't have a huge freezer to keep them in

I just feel that tapes are a step back in technology...
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Old 02-07-2002, 11:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I just feel that tapes are a step back in technology...
I must admit that it does feel like that to me too.

But ATM it's the only way to get pre-recorded hi-def.

Roll on Blue-DVD I say.
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Old 02-07-2002, 8:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Roll on Blue-DVD I say.
Last Blue DVD I saw wasn't high def or high quality. Not much of a plot either.
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Roland: You'd watch it again though........

Anyway, Call me as I'm sure you want to come see it all....


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Anything that can speed up the adoption of HD must be encoraged unless we resign ourselves to forever watching low res video. If the studio have it recorded at 1080i, lets have it.

As for cost, LD players wern't that far off and the disks where more expensive than DVHS., but yes the tape can wear. In years to come, you'll look back and wonder how we put up with DVD, as you can now with actually manually turning the TV channel over - people used to do that?

On paper the transfer rates is close to four times more, it's apples and oranges.

The best system is only as good as the worst component, for so long, this has been the software. Now we are seeing light at the end of the tunnel.

Just need a G90 now and a scaler to convert 1080i to 1080p.

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