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Steve.J.Davies

14-09-2006, 9:08 PM

Tried earlier but the post stage snafu'd. so will try again now

have used several Linux distros (Linii ??). Unbuntu has a good name as you can build a very specific system with just the components you need.
You don't need latest hardware - better it is not leading edge. Linux will drive good performance out of it anyway. You should check that your components are all supported before install.
I liked Ubuntu when I was fiddling with it.
Some linux distros use a disk formatting prog that may have trouble with the latest disks (causes bad SMART data to be written (which you can't change..) and maybe a low level format with the vendor utility to get you out. result of a misunderstanding with the disk about its geometry.
Again an upfront check on hardware support will help there.
I think it best to pre allocate and format partions in advance anyway (e.g. Partition Magic) but of you are a novice its prbably best to let the system do it for you at install time until you get your head around the file system and structures.

If its your first trip with the penguin suggest you just use the one Operating System on the PC at first (If that works logistically for you).
When you have 'done a bit' you can go for multi-boot and lots of distros.. can even have common data quite easily.
If you have a 64 bit cpu watch the free distros on mag covers - often they are only 32 bit versions.
If you have broadband just download the install iso of your chosen version(s) and have it. Thats a big benefit in using a 'spare' pc to do this with - you can just wiipe it all out and start again f you want to. If you don't have the luxury of dedicating your pc to playing with the badger then suggest you (probably) add a hard disk, format it and unconnect the existing system's disks and then have at it. Or if you are proficient with BOOTMAGIC maybe start with that.

If you are doing this for HTPC use there are lots of sites out there.
Suggest you also look at KnoppMyth (marriage of Knoppix and MythTV). and GeexBox - this is tiny and can be burnt to a pen drive and booted from there.

You will probably need broadband in any case as once installed you will want to download maintenance and probably some other packages and drivers etc.

Most Linux pretty friendly nowadays but you will need to familarise yourself with some of tasks and lingo. Its fun. If you have trouble finding good info PM me and can point at things.

can you dedicate a PC as a sandpit for this (in some way)?

The Dude

14-09-2006, 9:35 PM

You took the thread right out of my mouth....... :devil:

I'm a recent Suse Linux 10.1 convert myself.... have spent the last few weeks removing all traces of WinXP from all of my mates PCs.

I've made a very lucrative career out of installing micro**** OS' and applications..... suffice to say I'm now hugely terribly embarrassed, and trying my hardest to make amends for my naivety. :thumbsup:

My 3 Dell laptops, my HTPC, my 'play' PC, all of my mates PCs, and (from now on) all of my customers PCs and servers, are all running Linux in one flavour or another...

If you're interested in Suse 10.1, download the DVD (bittorrent will be fastest), then follow the instructions here (http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/254/42/)

If you can install/use WinXP, then you can install Suse Linux.

Unluck Billyboy, but secretly, you always knew Novell were gonna get you in the end :devil:

springtide

14-09-2006, 10:33 PM

Out of the range of Linux products, Ubuntu is a pretty good distro. Their LTS is a nice idea for people who want to stick with the OS rev for a while without being forced to upgrade. Also has good lang support, especially Spanish. Also sticks pretty strictly to a number of Linux standards (well, one set of standards)

Quick and easy way to eval OS's without needing another PC or Hard Disk (or Disk Partition)..........

Interested in taking a look at the various flavours of Linux or just want to put together a couple of Linux systems on a network, but don't have spare hardware or want to mess up your "production system"? Take a look at:

http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html

All the "usual suspects" (pre-configured OS's) available at:

http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/

Host OS can be Windows or Linux. Player is obviously the simplest to use, but Server offers a much better feature set. The Server product allows you to install your own OS('s) where as Player doesn't.

VMWare will also run commercial OS's (Windows XP, Win2003 Srv etc) but obviously "virtualisation" obviously does have some limitations with regards to hardware, and there is obviously a performance overhead (but not as much as you might think)

VMWARE is great for eval and testing - and now free!

GCDB

15-09-2006, 7:23 AM

Hi,
i just got this disc as well. Havnt tried it yet but have a 10 gb partition on pc and thinking of installing it there so to have xp pro on the other partition, so i could have a play around with it. Is 10gb a reasonable enough size to start with? Dont want to just boot from cd as want to move files from xp etc.
Ta
gav

andrew1810

15-09-2006, 8:34 AM

10Gb should be fine, I've had it running on a lot less!

Andrew
(with about 30 Ubuntu disks in a cupboard)

The Dude

15-09-2006, 11:27 AM

You only need 4-5GB to install Suse 10.1, so Ubuntu can't be much hungrier, probably even less so from what I've read.. :thumbsup:

General Skanky

16-09-2006, 7:55 AM

Very useful replies. Thanks all.

I'm basically taking a 'beginners view' of Linux.

I asked about it a while ago but there really weren't any easy ways of doing it, until now.

Having seen the live cd version of this Ubuntu release I am impressed.

Simple, clean fast etc. Very promising.

I have a lot to learn having looked into it more. However, it's general knowledge information like how to do etc not learn from scratch like with Windows all those years ago.:grin:

My main questions are about Linux equivalents for the current software I use.

Zonelarm Security Suite 6 and Ccleaner I'd like to find equal replacements for. Having been so aware with XP about spyware,viruses and so on, I'd like to keep my security tight. Any suggestions?

Everything else seems easy to find/already available/part of the OS like OpenOffice/burning software etc.

As for HTPC, I have no real idea yet as I need to learn the OS first. TBH though, all I need is something like Power DVD equivalent to play back movies. Music is dealt with elsewhere. Other functions are standard stuff as in XP.

Finally, is Linux getting better for gaming? What about games like BF2?

Thanks again.:smashin:

General Skanky

16-09-2006, 7:58 AM

And yes, I have a spare laptop to practice it all on too.:smashin:

With all the praise of Linux generally, I don't anticipate the same headaches and hard leason learning as with Windows.

Besides, it's not like it takes hours at a time to load all the extra rubbish that populates a Windows install.:rolleyes:

andrew1810

16-09-2006, 10:01 AM

General Skanky

16-09-2006, 10:15 AM

Thanks for the reply.

you would need to run BF2 from within a Windows emulator like Wine

Just what I needed to know.

The Dude

16-09-2006, 4:20 PM

For media/dvd players you want to be loking at apps such as Mplayer (essential IMO), Amarok, kaffeine, Xine..... all are very very good.
(Amorok makes media player look just a bit naff.. ;) )

I use Mplayer to handle any web content, then Amarok as my media player. Faultless performance from both.

'w32codec-all' should be one of the first extras you install, along with 'libdvdcss2-1.2.9-1.i386.rpm' for commercial DVD playback..

With these two installs, your machine should be able to play anything :)

Steve.J.Davies

16-09-2006, 7:31 PM

What laptop ? Some are a bit 'specialised' i.e. weird parts.
hardware support check is needed.

General Skanky

16-09-2006, 7:35 PM

Already tried the live cd with no problems on a HP ZD8398 and a Dell Inspiron 1300.

The previous Ubuntu version didn't work on the HP.

Steve.J.Davies

16-09-2006, 10:01 PM

As long as you have any data you need from the laptop saved (and can recover of needed) then have it man ! if you need nothing on it then its clean and green to proceed.
No idea about you home network but make sure you have the details you need to populate your ISP info so you can get on-line.

having another machine on the 'net initially will help as you can download s/w and burn to cd if needs arise. nice that - a desktop box for the net and the laptop in front with the new system on it.

Ubuntu has an active on-line community. (or find a copy of the prentis-hall ubuntu book maybe..). all the Linux flavours have their own characteristics and general manuals on structure only go so far.

Nuke that disk and then have fun !

When I first played with Linii i used to install a lot of packages - just to see what they were like really. better bet is to just install the ones you know you want. get the base system going with chosen interface and hardware support. then add the other stuff. usual caveats apply but even if it goes pearshaped you can always re-nuke and rebuild.
Once you know you can build a system that gets you on-line then you are away.
Stick in that CD/DVD and start clicking - odds are it config okay and all you have to do is populate things like userid names and network info.

hint - follow good practice and only use admiistrator id to do real admin things.
log on as a normal user for everyday use

You are about to take your first steps into a bigger world (Aopologies to G Lucas...). Let us know how it goes.

who knows could be a sticky or forum of its own 'HTPC Linux Laptop'...

General Skanky

17-09-2006, 6:57 AM

So long as the emulator works fine I'm pretty sure it's for me.

Windows is ingrained in me, but I'm fed up with all the security issues, Microsoft's pettiness about a lot of things, the cost! and having to constantly update their patches which get bigger every time.

I have better things to do than all the maintenance needed these days on a Windows machine.

I hope to just 'use' Linux and get on with things.

The Linux preference was blatantly demonstrated by the popular use of Firefox on these very forums. And am I not also right in saying that servers around the world are mostly Linux by choice?

Steve.J.Davies

17-09-2006, 5:07 PM

'Servers' covers a lot of ground....
but yep, Linux popular as it can be maintained and kept up for hundreds of days with no need for a re-boot. Mind you server farms normally a bit more complex than that...

if you want to see how much linux is used take a straw poll but going to
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.vidiacom.com
and typing in a few will known sites. netcraft can't always discern accurately but this is documented. it will give you a flavour.

useful site if your favourite board or ISP suddenly starts to behave 'funny' - its amazing how many times that happens just after a software change.....

enough of this - Nuke that laptop !!! :-)

General Skanky

17-09-2006, 5:20 PM

Had a spare 2.5" hdd which I used to install Ubuntu. So it's now running on the HP. (Will use it for a while to learn my way around).

I am now here via Firefox.

I have a lot to read on the Ubuntu forums as I need to learn wireless. I'm on LAN at the mo.

The install including format etc was very fast indeed. Can't remember doing anything more complicated than selecting time zone, language and partitioning. So easy.

A reboot is ridiculously fast compared to windows.

This Linux kit is so free from bloat it's great.

I also really like the visual presentation too. So clean and easy.

Already discovered no need for a reg cleaner as there isn't one. No defrag needed either. Plus as it's a closed system by nature a firewall is also not required. However, there are lots of free add/remove progs to go through and update this OS, it'll be a while before I know what I really do and don't need.

It is safe to say that right now I am thoroughly impressed with the experience.

Windows is such a dog by comparison. I can only equate the windows experience like dragging a stubborn donkey through a quagmire compared to the agility of Ubuntu.

However, I reserve the right to change my mind at any time if it does get frustrating at any time in the future.:grin:

General Skanky

17-09-2006, 5:57 PM

Just doing an update on the HP.

Also very easy. All updates downloaded at once. None of this separate install messing about.

I can only reiterate just how impressed I am.

The Ubuntu forums look like they are going to be a fantastic resource too.:smashin:

Steve.J.Davies

17-09-2006, 6:06 PM

Different world.

Different design philosphy (not to screw or tie-in customers).

Think about a multi-boot set-up. e.g. you could use a specialised HTPC only config..

Don't totally ignore security....

General Skanky

17-09-2006, 6:47 PM

Don't worry. The built in firewall will be on shortly.

Buggered up the update. Had it on batt power which interrupted it when it shut down.

Tried briefly to restart the interruption with command lines in terminal session, but it's easier to reinstall and reupdate. To reformat/reinstall takes about 20 mins. Not the marathon windows session I've become used to. So no hassle.

All part of the learning curve.

Multi boot is in the future.

But I'm so happy with what I see and the promise of Wine etc, windows could be in for a kick in the arse out the door.:grin:

Steve.J.Davies

17-09-2006, 8:57 PM

If Wine is just for Games - which the only reason i can think of then just have a prod around the Wine support info for stuff on the Games you want to play. Micros**t tend to get games writers to code low level dependencies. they tell the games developers it is because they are 'special' and the developers are so hungry to get their games to perform on bloated and inefficient windows that they jump for it.
So much for being wizz-kids. but hey they are only in it for the money so why should they care.

If wine lets you down then (IIRC) you can virtualise a windows partition/system. i.e run windows under linux. A stripped down windas system that can't see the net and is just used for games would probably give you the performance you need in this config, no need for AV stuff etc if it can't see anyything but its own navel. - assuming Wine doesn't cut it in every case of course.

Think I detect a convert...

General Skanky

19-09-2006, 3:01 PM

All going well.

Two poor areas so far are laptop and wireless support. The two growth areas in computing.

However, still in love and it's only a minor obstacle.

The Dude

19-09-2006, 6:48 PM

In SUSE I've had headaches galore with my dell 1350 (broadcom) Wifi, but the Intel 2100/2200 adapters in the other two machines worked straight from install, no messing around at all. :thumbsup:

Under Suse 10.1 you can build a fully working,fully finished, Dell Lattitude D610, without any HW issues whatsoever....not a single driver required, and every piece of software you could want on a laptop.... and the docking station all works fine too.

On that basis, Suse10.1 is more 'plug and play' than Windows XP ! :thumbsup:

I'm downloading Ubuntu as we speak, I'll be installing it on the same D610 over the weekend, and will post back as soon I've finished. Here's hoping the Intel bits are supported properly, I'll be rolling my sleeves up if not. :devil:

Linux is cool. :cool:

General Skanky

19-09-2006, 6:59 PM

My HP has a Broadcom wifi card too which seems to be the core problem for most users from what I can see.

In Ubuntu their forums recommend a different driver for Broadcom.

But it is a challenge I shall overcome.

This website proved usefull too -

http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/

Let me know how you find Ubuntu. As this is my first Linux I'm quite enjoying it but don't want to stray unless absolutely neccessary.

General Skanky

26-09-2006, 8:16 AM

Update:

So far it's going well. Installed on spare hdd as mentioned and simply swap drives for a few days at a time to use.

Found Firestarter Firewall and installed. In conjunction with my Netgear firewall, all ports invisible to outside world. Tested at Hackerwatch.org.

Going to use TrendMicro free online virus/spyware/malware checker for the 'just in case' security checks.

I have the Ubuntu book coming from Amazon as I most definately need pointers on quite a few things.

I like not needing to do registry cleans or maintenance/defrags etc. I like the speed and simplicity.

Steep learning curve on how to do:

Install plugins ie Java (preventing me from using TrendMicro)
Getting Broadcom WiFi card to work
Undertsanding what each prog downloaded actually does!
Understanding what I need to look for to download.
Deciphering some of the names of progs to link to above
Finding cetain prog quivalents to Windows, ie DVDShrink DVD 43 etc

There are more but not real problems.

Most of all and the driving force behind this is it's all totally free. Nice.:smashin:

Breaking the dependency on windows can only be a good thing in this repect.

The other thing I've been learning is the sheer quantity of alternative OS systems there are. Simply discovering for example that Ubuntu was on the Debian set up and not KDE was a lot to take in and understand and how it relates to everything else! Then people start talking about SUSE, Fedora etc.

I'll stick with Ubuntu until I become proficient enough to explore.

I'd recommend the experience to all to try. Very strange if you are a Windows person, but it can be worth it imho.

Steve.J.Davies

26-09-2006, 12:20 PM

"I'll stick with Ubuntu until I become proficient enough to explore."

Wise decision. stick with your first distro till you get the lingo.

Ubuntu a good first choice.

There are seemingly squillions of progs out there (free as well) and often there are multiple choices for alternates to the windows ones you are used to. Often its just a question of which one you prefer from a useabaility point of view.

Thats why I advised only to install what you need (minimal config) and then build it it up. if you tick the 'install the effin lot' box it will just be information overload and make it harder to see the wood from the trees.
Don't be scared to un-install stuff you no longer want. Some distros can get you caught in 'dependency hell' - SUSE used to be bad for that. Ubuntu pretty good choice in that regard IIRC.

All the distro have their adherents - as I am sure you have found out by now.

there will come a point when you want to muliti-boot Ubuntu just so you can try out advanced heavy duty changes and (re)configs. E.g a HTPC config and an Internet ready config. Its not really needed but as a beginner it gives you a back-out option if you blow a foot off. Then again if you are well into the learning curve just carry on with the one version.

it is freeing isn't it ? You will soon pick up on the structures and the lingo. It seems weird but I think it is actually easier to pick up good admin skill on Linux than it is on Windows. Okay, am aware that 'good admin' and 'windows' form an oxymoronic pair.

GCDB

27-09-2006, 7:27 AM

Hi, i installed ubuntu but cocked up the first time and wiped my windows off....newbies eh! Lost a few photos but not bad. Re-installed windows now. Partioned the disk with part magic in windows(easier for me) and installed ubuntu. Now ok and dual booting ok. Only problem is that ubuntu wont recognise my fa311 netgear ethernet card so cant get on to the net. HAve tried googling and it seems a problem with older versions of the card? I think i need a driver called natsemi.o but where would i get this and how could i update ubuntu with it? Until then cant update my system etc and install programs i want etc.
Thanks gav

Steve.J.Davies

27-09-2006, 8:53 PM

You tried the Ubuntu forum for this ? they are a helpful bunch. a good search there and a question is still needed a good plan.

meanwhile google is your friend
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=ubuntu&num=10&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=fa311+netgear+&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images

deksawyer

27-09-2006, 11:01 PM

I installed Kubunu, the KDE flavour around 2 months ago and apart from some minor teething problems (with X and Grub) and 2 reinstalls, it is fantastic.

I chose Kubuntu because wireless support was out of the box for the Safecom adapter I'm using plus it seemed a bit snappier, although it's the same basic Debian Linux underneath.

Updates are painless, it's stable and looks cool as hell! (should that be Kool??).

D.

GCDB

28-09-2006, 7:19 AM

Thanks,
Will try posting in ubuntu forums as tried googling fa311 and ubuntu to death but not really getting anywhere(for a newbee anyway!). Have found drivers for redhat 7??? but nothing ubuntu related. Perhaps out of my depth.Netgear support says v1 fa311 doesnt support linux(card i have).
TA anyway
Gav

General Skanky

28-09-2006, 7:22 AM

Kbuntu = KDE.

So simple, it's had me wondering the difference.:rolleyes:

I must be thicker than I thought.:grin:

batty

28-09-2006, 3:08 PM

Hello, Interesting to see how many people are trying linux these days.

I am currently running Kubuntu, I found that it does everything i wanted.
The big advantage i thought it had over Ubuntu was Kaffeine.
This is a great little media player, which also allows me to watch TV using my Nebula digitv card and record using EPG.

I've only been using it for a month or so,dual booting currently.
I think I'll be brave enough to get rid of windows completely soon

General Skanky

28-09-2006, 8:27 PM

My Ubuntu book arrived today. Oh joy.:)

canardo

03-10-2006, 11:15 AM

I run ubuntu on my main machine at home, did have it on the laptop for a while unfortunately until the next release comes out (which has gnome 2.18) windows provides me with better battery life on the laptop

any questions please shoot I can solve most of the problems on ubuntu as have been using debian for a long time(ubuntu is a debian deriative)

my htpc is probably going to be mythtv this weekend still havent made my mind up about that or media portal

Juliesinar

10-10-2006, 5:54 PM

Hi,

I installed ubuntu on an old laptop today, it was the first time I've used Linux. Set up went really well, the only thing not working is the wireless internet.

The laptop has an intel centrino 1.3 processor, I've messed around (meaning probably screwed up) with the network settings but still can't get it to work.

I will be ordering a book so I can learn more, but I was wondering if anyone had a clue how I could get the wireless connection working OK.

I have a Windows XP laptop and and ibook which both connect perfectly with my wireless connection,

Julie

General Skanky

10-10-2006, 9:20 PM

In the short time I have used Ubuntu, wireless is the weak point. Wired LAN is superb and simple by comparison.

I'd expect future updates to correct the poor drivers included in the initial install.

You need to find the correct drivers for yourself to make your wireless work.

It's a bit of a struggle but you'll get there.

The book is very useful.:smashin:

emu

11-10-2006, 1:43 PM

hey guys

currently got ubuntu installed on vmware while im having a play with it

not dabbled with the wine program yet but there a few windows programs that i would like to find alternatives for

winrar
quickpar
a suitable program to play xvid,divx,wmv,h264 and mpeg
do i need antivirus?
an easy to use burning program for isos,img and creating data cds
newsleecher

any help with these would be appreciated before i install ubuntu fully :thumbsup:

Steve.J.Davies

11-10-2006, 2:46 PM

don't know about quickpar...
but I think the rest are covered by the distro already.

why quickpar BTW ? Linux has a better file system than windows...

emu

11-10-2006, 3:32 PM

hello m8

i need quickpar to test if certain files i have been downloading are complete or not

if they are incomplete quickpar repairs them

Steve.J.Davies

11-10-2006, 4:31 PM

Interesting.
Does it retrieve the missing data ?

this something that happens a lot for you ?

emu

11-10-2006, 4:50 PM

it does retrieve the missing data

it varies from day to day and what im grabbing

Steve.J.Davies

11-10-2006, 5:03 PM

Looks like folks have no trouble running it under WINE.

waf-tastic

11-10-2006, 7:16 PM

After seeing this thread, I decided to try Ubuntu. Burned the ISO this morning and just tried it now (install from CD). Works great (using Firefox to browse the forums)! I used Linux a looong time ago (when the incorrect settings in your X monitor config could fry the monitor!) but this is about as easy as it gets. Only problem I have is that Ican't get it to install to my USB HD. It won't repartition the drive (plenty of free space, but it just hangs if I try to resize the partition (which is currently NTFS)). I'll just have to back it up to a different drive and format it I guess. Even off CD, it seems quick. Assuming I can get the movie playing codecs installed, this is going on my HTPC (when I finally get to build it). I'm not paying Microsoft a fortune when there's a great quality alternative like Ubuntu available. Cheers for the 'heads-up' guys :thumbsup:

Steve.J.Davies

11-10-2006, 7:43 PM

have a look at Knopmyth....

my bet is you will be doing multi boot and have a coupla distros...

canardo

12-10-2006, 11:21 AM

quick par exists for linux

you might want to look at ninan if you are downloading from news groups as this will automate binary extraction for you

scribe5

12-10-2006, 2:49 PM

There's an interesting article about three Linux distros in the current issue of Maximum PC (they call it their ``Holiday 2006'' issue). Bottomline. it says Ubuntu is the best/easiest for a nOOb to give Linux a try and offers suggestions on how to install. I haven't tried Linux yet, except for a brief flirtation with Knoppix CD a couple years ago. But with Mr. Softie charging an outrageous $$ for its Vista upgrade, I see Linux in my future and will try Ubuntu shortly. Good luck!!

canardo

13-10-2006, 1:20 PM

ubuntu with automatix can run everything a typical windows machine from a formatted hard drive to completion in about 2 hours

windows + office would take longer than that, let alone everything else acrobat reader, dvd playing software, cd burning software, mp3 player etc etc etc etc

www.getautomatix.com

ubuntu 6.10 is due out at the end of this month with lots of nice shiny new features such as the new gnome :)

waf-tastic

13-10-2006, 8:01 PM

Just a quick question on multi-processor support. I've just inherited an elderly 2 processor PC and have installed Ubuntu on it. Using the system monitor app, I can only see one CPU (in Windows I used to ee 2 in the task manager). Are the 2 cpus being used transparently in the bakground or is one of them not enabled?

Steve.J.Davies

13-10-2006, 8:36 PM

You checked the mobo out on the Ubuntu support forum ?

or care to post more details here.

I believe Dual core is supported so find it hard to believe that multi-cpu is not unless it is some weird hardware you got. In linux the older hardware support easier to find...

waf-tastic

14-10-2006, 3:16 PM

I found out that I need an SMP version - I hope it fixes the stability problems I'm having. I've tried installing a bunch of updates - took about 5 tries as the machine was hanging.
The machine is a Dell Precision workstation 410 mt, bios a12, motherboard ID is 0003768u 20400 01k 0nf8 (from a yellow sticker with barcode on the motherboard which has DELL stamped on it - can't see any othe vendow mark).
The motherboard has twin 500MHz (yup - count em!) Pentium III processors with 512 MB memory. I figured this would let me play around prior to using it for real on a main PC.

I downloaded and installed ubuntu 2.4.27-2-686-smp kernal package, but this hangs on booting with a kernal panic:VFS:unable to mount root fs (cannot open root device hda1) despite the fact that the non smp kernal does boot on hda1....

Slightly confused but if I can get it working, it's lookng good :)

waf-tastic

14-10-2006, 3:51 PM

Aha! Using the magic incantation:

sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp

I've enabled the multiprocessor support! Does seem more snappy, especially when there are lots of things goin on - better than the Windows installation I had previously on the same machine.

General Skanky

26-10-2006, 8:09 PM

Another update.

Wireless with Broadcom + Ubuntu was for me a disaster!! Answer was to change to an Intel card. Problem solved. Instant wireless connection. Now have to learn to apply wpa security.

I'm a lot more familiar with Ubuntu as a whole. Fiefox is a new love for me too. IE in any variant doesn't stack up.

I find lot of talk about Windows Vista vrs Linux very interesting. Ubuntu (Linux) just seems to get more attractive day by day by comparison.

Sill reading and visiting the Ubuntu forums. Like being back at school.:grin: