View Full Version : Great reasons why not to buy a Samsung Blueray player!
Ozmuzzer
21-07-2006, 2:55 AM
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/hddiscplayers/706dsamsungbd/index6.html
Hi Guys,
Check out the above link.
It looks like Samsung really should have waited till it got it right before releasing their player!
RobDickinson
21-07-2006, 3:21 AM
Man thats bad, not as bad as the crappy raw DTS output on the 5.1 analog connection tho, bad video isnt great, a device that fry's your speakers is worse.
Rasczak
21-07-2006, 5:46 AM
I bet Samsung are regretting the day they ever decided to be first to market with BluRay.
Nic Rhodes
21-07-2006, 6:52 AM
That really is putting the boot in when they are down already. Let's hope the don't make players for anyone else :)
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/hddiscplayers/706dsamsungbd/index6.html
Hi Guys,
Check out the above link.
It looks like Samsung really should have waited till it got it right before releasing their player!
That's very unfortunate particularly for those who imported direct from the USA. I wonder if/how Movietyme and other sellers will address this for their customers who bought this player?
AVI
Rasczak
21-07-2006, 7:27 AM
I wonder if/how Movietyme and other sellers will address this for their customers who bought this player?
Has anyone actually brought it? I can't imagine there is a particularly big market for BluRay yet given the lacklustre titles (both range and quality) and the 'promise' of better machines on the horizon.
Roughneck1
21-07-2006, 9:02 AM
That's very unfortunate particularly for those who imported direct from the USA. I wonder if/how Movietyme and other sellers will address this for their customers who bought this player?
AVI
Very easily... ain't sold any... :)
Very easily... ain't sold any... :)
what not one???
on the hd-dvd front whcih model have you sold more of? A1 or AX1?
Very easily... ain't sold any... :)
:eek: Will you be removing it from the web site until it's fixed ?
AVI
Nic Rhodes
21-07-2006, 9:23 AM
How many HD DVD players have you sold? and are there now any bargain Samung BD player prices going :)
Roughneck1
21-07-2006, 9:27 AM
:eek: Will you be removing it from the web site until it's fixed ?
AVI
Yep now off the site and a message going up as to why, we have sold a couple but to industry types, magazines and celeb's.
Sold way more XA1's.
Also where possible now making sure most HD titles are on next day delivery...
AidenL
21-07-2006, 9:39 AM
Craig, I'm wondering on your A1 and XA1 stock status, dropped you 2 PMs - would you give me a shout when you get a chance please? :)
lfletcher
21-07-2006, 11:18 AM
Rather glad I listened to the old noggin on this one and didnt rush out and buy the first Blu Ray player available. I'm not sure what would be more upsetting - the first wave of BD discs arent up to much or you dropped $1000 on a Sumsung player which is pretty much junk.
Bet there's a few people hoping that the Sony isnt a rebadged Samsung, mainly Sony :grin:
Roughneck1
21-07-2006, 11:36 AM
Craig, I'm wondering on your A1 and XA1 stock status, dropped you 2 PMs - would you give me a shout when you get a chance please? :)
Without promoting anything i am told via an email from a Customer Service person at said company that they have both in stock and AX1's are in UK for Next Day delivery...
AidenL
21-07-2006, 11:56 AM
Thank you :)
I wonder when the next A1s will be available in the UK :)
hunts1uk
21-07-2006, 1:48 PM
Yep now off the site and a message going up as to why, we have sold a couple but to industry types, magazines and celeb's.
Sold way more XA1's.
Also where possible now making sure most HD titles are on next day delivery...
How many in stock next day del?:grin:
welwynnick
21-07-2006, 2:38 PM
Mod Comment: No commercial posts please!
Cheers, Nick
Cool-hand
21-07-2006, 10:05 PM
Hi
Does anyone know when the UK R2 XA1 is going to be available?
Ta
Cool-Hand
Rasczak
21-07-2006, 10:56 PM
Not until late October/November is what the home cinema magazines are saying and that concurrs with the response you'll get if you ring Toshiba Customer Services. However the specification should be known from mid-September as the machine is going to be announced/displayed then at the Berlin exhibition. It will not be the XA1 but a model built using the "second generation" chasis.
lfletcher
22-07-2006, 10:15 AM
Looks like the Stacy Spears over at AVS pretty much confirms that the Sony is a rebadged Samsung (or will certainly do things in the same stupid way with regards to 1080p),
"Of course there are two BD players this year that output 1080i from the decoder and use a 3rd party chip to convert to 1080p. The first is the Samsung, the second will be out in a couple of months."
Choice narrowed to Pioneer or Panasonic now. Can one of them not cockup their player?
Rasczak
22-07-2006, 10:19 AM
Choice narrowed to Pioneer or Panasonic now. Can one of them not cockup their player?
Frankly I won't hold my breathe on the Pioneer - it has been years since they have led the market in anything IMHO. Some of their products are decent (there current high end DVD players for example) but they have spent years refining them. Given, as well, that the Pioneer will not support the full application of BD-J I'd be loathe to spend US$1500 on it.
Panasonic though I have a healthy respect for. If anyone is going to get it right first time it will be them.
Nic Rhodes
22-07-2006, 12:56 PM
Looks like the Stacy Spears over at AVS pretty much confirms that the Sony is a rebadged Samsung?
Now, there's a surprize :rolleyes:
...Given, as well, that the Pioneer will not support the full application of BD-J I'd be loathe to spend US$1500 on it.
Panasonic though I have a healthy respect for. If anyone is going to get it right first time it will be them.
According to people on the US AVS forums ALL of the Blu-ray players support the full BD-J functionality. What none of the 1st gen Blu-ray players from any company will support is something called BD-Live which requires the internet connectivity...
So with regard to getting full interactive functionality you need to wait for second generation BD machines.
gingerone
22-07-2006, 3:32 PM
This info is hardly surprising, samsung are one of the laziest dvd player manufacturers out there.
They seem to have very poor product testing and have no consideration for the features that end users will want.
There is no way I'd pay a grand for a samsung player of any description.
JU1CYFRU1T
23-07-2006, 5:07 PM
This info is hardly surprising, samsung are one of the laziest dvd player manufacturers out there.
They seem to have very poor product testing and have no consideration for the features that end users will want.
There is no way I'd pay a grand for a samsung player of any description.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: I couldn't agree more. There was a "debate" in my shop at work over which format would "win out the gate". I told all 8 guys I work with that I would never pay $1000 for any player samsung made. I don't care if the case was made with $2000 worth of gold. I'm not giving samsung my money. They make garbage equipment, they don't QC correctly, and they don't really care when they "F" it up. I can't imagine that it will take a company the size of Samsung, with all the resources of the BDA, 3 months or more to release a firmware update. With the resources they have, they should have it done in weeks, not months. On second thought, it should have been done right the first time!! Now they are making all the BD fanboys who jumped at getting the first player wait it out for an update?! That's terrible marketing IMO.
I love the BD wait game, "Wait for _____". HD DVD is beautiful... but wait for BD. The PQ isn't that good on BD... but wait for the Sony. The chip the samsung is using isn't set up right... but wait for a firmware update. blah blah blah.
I'm not impressed with BD, or how they are handeling this fumble.
JU1CYFRU1T
Rasczak
23-07-2006, 5:20 PM
I love the BD wait game, "Wait for _____". HD DVD is beautiful... but wait for BD. The PQ isn't that good on BD... but wait for the Sony. The chip the samsung is using isn't set up right... but wait for a firmware update. blah blah blah.
But it's amazing how zealous the fans of the format are! :god: Sony really did a good job of 'selling' it to some people on the specs alone.
JU1CYFRU1T
23-07-2006, 5:57 PM
But it's amazing how zealous the fans of the format are! :god: Sony really did a good job of 'selling' it to some people on the specs alone.
To get off topic for 1 post:
It's all about the "fanboys". I HATE FANBOYS!!! They decide what they like, and won't listen to anyone else's opinion. Try talking about the Xbox 360 on a gaming forum... you get all sorts of supporters... and the PS fanboys who "hate M$ and hate thier crappy system". They call you a M$ fanboy (even though I have already said I'm getting the PS3), and won't listen to a word otherwise.
Back on topic:
I don't care which format wins... I just want a standard, so that I don't have to buy two players.
JU1CYFRU1T
Back on topic:
I don't care which format wins... I just want a standard, so that I don't have to buy two players.
JU1CYFRU1T
I generally don't care either, however there is a good chance that neither format will succeed. If everyone waits for a winner that is exactly what would happen.
Nic Rhodes
23-07-2006, 6:48 PM
I also thought I would bow out of this race a year or so ago but what I have seen so far I think people should buy when they see something they like. There 'votes' will count as will mine :)
The HD-DVD supporters really need to move in hard now that Samsung have admitted their mistake with their player.
They should bring forward the release dates and release even more HD-DVD titles to the market. They should also get their advertisement dept into full swing and make the most of the Excellent picture quality of HD-DVD players compared to that of Blu-Ray.
Put it in a language that Joe public at large will understand As it will be them that decides the fate of these 2 formats.
HD-DVD $499 OUTSTANDING PICTURE QUALITY. 100`s OF TITLES
Blu-Ray $1000 FAULTY PLAYERS, UN-IMPRESSIVE PICTURE QUALITY, FEW DOZEN TITLES POORLY MASTERED.
Yep now off the site and a message going up as to why, we have sold a couple but to industry types, magazines and celeb's.
Huh? It's still there...