View Full Version : NEWS: European BluRay launch pushed into 2007
StooMonster
10-07-2006, 6:31 PM
The INQ is reporting that BluRay camp, including Pioneer, won't be able to launch BluRay in Europe until next year. They got this story from the usually reliable Taipei Times.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32914
StooMonster
Nic Rhodes
10-07-2006, 6:32 PM
So I was right :)
danvitale
10-07-2006, 6:41 PM
I remember reading somewhere that its the standalone BR players that will be delayed, as the parts required for BR-DVD playback are being ploughed into the PS3 production line.
Evil Engineer
10-07-2006, 7:51 PM
Didn't the Sony guy on the Podcast already admit as much when he said that PS3 would be the first Bluray product in Europe?
Can't say I'm too suprised with Sony/Pioneer already delayed until 4th Quarter in the US.
Tejstar
11-07-2006, 8:20 AM
What does it mean by 'Blu-Ray camp'? Does that mean the PS3 will slip into 2007 too? Or does it just relate to stand-alone players?
laser
11-07-2006, 11:12 AM
If release is not going to be until 2007 in Europe I would certainly expect the price of BD players to be less than the touted £1000 for a standalone. Manufacturers now have plenty of time to build up stocks of parts required for both PS3, PC Burners and standalone players.
By the time BD is released over hear HD-DVD should be on second generation players in the US and Japan.
chambeaj
12-07-2006, 7:35 AM
Blu-ray may be delayed yet further by lack of laser diode supply
http://www.hdtvuk.tv/2006/07/bluray_may_be_d.html#more
chambeaj
12-07-2006, 7:42 AM
Seems to me Blu-Ray is destined to flop. For the serious AV enthusiastes (not interested in PS3's etc. and wanting a serious quality player) Blu-Ray is looking less and less attractive.
Add to which how on earth are they going to sell something called Blu-Ray to the mass general public anyway. Average joe bloggs will appreciate what HD-DVD is, but Blu-Ray - forget it!! SONY have blown it imho Blu-Ray will eventually be consigned to the dustbin.
Blu-ray may be delayed yet further by lack of laser diode supply
http://www.hdtvuk.tv/2006/07/bluray_may_be_d.html#more
Could also be a smoke screen to buy time whilst they work on their issues of making it DL50 work.
AVI
mr_yogi
12-07-2006, 9:45 AM
Aren't the same blue laser diodes used in HD-DVD players as well as Blu-Ray players? Apparently they are being stock piled for PS3.
About the name, surely when the marketing kicks in Blu-Ray will be less confusing than all the misunderstandings between HD-DVD players/ upscaling DVD players and those SD players capable of reading the HD WMV discs :cool:
AgentCool
12-07-2006, 9:51 AM
This presumably means that when the PS3 is launched there will be little or no Blu-Ray titles available thus making the BD drive a fairly pointless feature in terms of marketing around the crucial Christmas period. On the other side of the coin we will have HD-DVD with a fair few titles, at least 2 stand-alone players and the 360 add-on available before Christmas.
I will be very surprised if Blu-Ray still comes out on top after this calamity, at least in Europe.
Tejstar
12-07-2006, 10:01 AM
Aren't the same blue laser diodes used in HD-DVD players as well as Blu-Ray players?
The data layer of the Blu-ray Disc resides 0.1 mm from the disk's surface, while the HD-DVD data layer is 0.6-mm deep from the disk's surface, the same as DVD disks.
I suppose therefore in theory that is correct, but maybe someone more informed can clarify?
Uruloke
12-07-2006, 10:28 AM
The data layer of the Blu-ray Disc resides 0.1 mm from the disk's surface, while the HD-DVD data layer is 0.6-mm deep from the disk's surface, the same as DVD disks.
I suppose therefore in theory that is correct, but maybe someone more informed can clarify?
I'm not 100% sure, but from what I have read previously I believe HD-DVD players use the same red laser diode already used in DVD drives which are easy to manufacture and are readily available. The Blue laser diode in Blu-Ray players (hence the name) is new technology and therefore needs to be manufactured from scratch and costs more money.
I'm not 100% sure, but from what I have read previously I believe HD-DVD players use the same red laser diode already used in DVD drives which are easy to manufacture and are readily available. The Blue laser diode in Blu-Ray players (hence the name) is new technology and therefore needs to be manufactured from scratch and costs more money.
They both use a "blue/violet" laser for HD. The colour is due to the light wavelength but I'm not sure if it's the same diode for BD and HD-DVD.
AVI
Tejstar
12-07-2006, 10:38 AM
HD-DVD uses blue diodes lasers too! It will also use red diodes to read standard DVD's.
Uruloke
12-07-2006, 10:41 AM
Where the hell did I read that then? Or did I imagine it? :confused:
chedmaster
12-07-2006, 10:47 AM
The wavelengths they use are identical (405nm - therefore the colour is identical)
The wavelengths they use are identical (405nm - therefore the colour is identical)
Technically is violet not blue but can you imagine having “VD” (Violet-ray disc) . Sounds nasty! :rotfl:
AVI
...and in Japan they said Toshiba & Hitachi were developing a green laser HD system (that was over 2yrs ago) and I have heard nothing else about the colour changing:confused: .However the character for green & blue is the same and I often get told that the traffic light is on blue!! too which I reply that the sky is green!!:grin: