View Full Version : Sony BDP-S1 Blu Ray pictures up
Packetfront
05-06-2006, 1:36 PM
I am glad i waited and didn't buy the Toshiba, look below, looks really nice.
Seems Sony is doing the demo all over the U.S now at stores and i wouldn't be suprised if they release it in the end of the month.
http://users.adelphia.net/~gconti/temp/he2006/BR2.jpg
http://users.adelphia.net/~gconti/temp/he2006/BR1.jpg
chambeaj
05-06-2006, 1:38 PM
Damn - its got a fan.:mad:
Although I am sure being SONY it will be quiet!! unlike those cr*p Thomson SkyHD box's.
Looks very nice as well. Personally my money is on Blu-Ray being the winner.
One thing - that picture shows that the BDP-S1 only has 5.1 analogue outputs!! so how does one benefit from DTS HD, Dolby True HD ? I presume that the separately grouped 'Audio Out' pair come into play for outputting 7.1 !!
danvitale
05-06-2006, 1:57 PM
Analogue outputs are required for SACD playback.
The Nightfly
05-06-2006, 2:12 PM
I don't like that crescent shaped inlay on the front panel, too fussy. I prefer the straightforward look it had previously.
The Nightfly
05-06-2006, 2:47 PM
I'm also getting the impression that this player doesn't handle the new HD audio formats (i.e. Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD) in any way shape or form. Just legacy DD and DTS. Someone tell me this isn't true.
Allan
I don't like that crescent shaped inlay on the front panel, too fussy. I prefer the straightforward look it had previously.
I think you will find that "crescent shaped inlay" is a reflection of the table! ;) :)
Steve
I'm also getting the impression that this player doesn't handle the new HD audio formats (i.e. Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD) in any way shape or form. Just legacy DD and DTS. Someone tell me this isn't true.
Allan
Yes, it is true. And it won't have HDMI 1.3 either...:god:
Steve
Analogue outputs are required for SACD playback.
This deck doesn't support Sony's SACD discs. D'oh!
Steve
The Nightfly
05-06-2006, 2:54 PM
I think you will find that "crescent shaped inlay" is a reflection of the table!
Yes, I think you're right. And if thats the case I prefer what appears to be a darker look to the lower panel than light blue look previously. Faith restored.
Yes, it is true. And it won't have HDMI 1.3 either
Oh bugger!
Allan
chambeaj
05-06-2006, 3:05 PM
The Pioneer Blu-Ray player definately handles DTS-HD, Dolby Digital Plus. I had thought the SONY would also have an onboard DTS-HD decoder & 7.1 output (or multi-channel PCM over HDMI 1.2).:(
http://www.avland.co.uk/pioneer/bdphd1/bdp-hd1.htm
Harket
05-06-2006, 5:09 PM
I have to say - i wasn't really expecting much but the Sony BD player does look as though it is far better manufactured/engineered than the Toshiba - I guess it should be though coming in at twice the price?
I would indeed like toget my hands on one of these after bowing out on the whole SKY HD idea.
Not sure if I'll be getting an imported US one though may have to wait for an oficial UK model.
Be great to hear how it performs though sometime soon.
iainmmm
05-06-2006, 9:30 PM
I'm holding out for this one. The USA sony site is currently showing delivery of about 15th August at $999.95.
Quality.
I'm also getting the impression that this player doesn't handle the new HD audio formats (i.e. Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD) in any way shape or form. Just legacy DD and DTS. Someone tell me this isn't true.
Allan
I think Sony are putting out their first disks with PCM. AFAIK this is an uncompressed format, so should be very high quality. But I am not sure :cool:
Clem_Dye
10-06-2006, 9:43 AM
What I didn't see in the picture was any form of ethernet port. Does the box have one?
Having followed the HD/BD threads here it seems very apparent to me that the likes of Toshiba et al are using their customers as unpaid beta product testers. Now, I accept that there's always the risk of contracting that most dreaded of illnesses, Early Adopter Fever, whose main symptom is heavy bleeding from the Credit Card, but I've found that the disease can be prevented a simple dose of Insufficient Credit Limit.
Seriously, I see nothing in either format so far that compels me to buy, even when the products are available in the UK. The software isn't complete because the standards are still being worked through, there's a lack of [expected] features and there's a dearth of media choice, not forgetting the inevitable format wars. I don't doubt for one second that the picture format beats SD hands-down, but that's not the only consideration for me.
What do others think?
Clem
russraff
10-06-2006, 11:07 AM
Couldn't agree more. While the sight of watching Serenity in HD is a bit of a "WOW" moment, the format is a little too premature for me. Disc loading times are far from ideal and even the Toshiba player doesn't support all high res audio formats. I would wait for 2nd or third gen players at least.
I would also say that until someone has held or messed about with the Sony unit, stating that the build quality "looks" like it is better than the Tosh is clearly rubbish. Even then the actual build in operation should be monitored. Sony's first DVP-S715 and 7700 players had one of the least impressive drive mechanisms that vibrated like mad with some studio pressings, despite having outstanding build quality.
Russell
just a quick (or not!) question.
i didnt realise there are some new hd audio formats to go with the hd video,do these require a new amp?
any links to some info on the differences between sd and hd audio,plus the different hd audio formats?
thanks.
russraff
10-06-2006, 7:28 PM
To accept the signals digitally you will need an HDMI interface or possibly a future version of Denon Link. However, I do believe that you can, player dependant, use the phono outs for an analogue output much like SACD and DVD-Audio.
Russell
Krobar
10-06-2006, 9:32 PM
Initial reports from those who have seen demos of the Sony BR player suggest it isnt much quicker to load than the Toshiba. The Samsung is quickest to start playing a disc (About 15 seconds). Personally I cant see any reason to buy the Sony over the Samsung, Samsung are offering 2 HDMI ports and an earlier release date and the Philips player is due about the same time and this will offer SACD. I agree that the Sony will probably be a fairly bug free product but I think Tosh will be at about V1.6 by then and even less buggy than the Sony.
kenloen
11-06-2006, 6:32 AM
I don't like that crescent shaped inlay on the front panel, too fussy. I prefer the straightforward look it had previously.
is that not a reflection from the table its sitting on?
I would wait for 2nd or third gen players at least.
Russell
Defo, I bought a 1st gen DVD player only for models twice as good to come out in a matter of months. Plus they will only get cheaper as well.
I might get the HD DVD addon-on for my Xbox 360 to get me by for now, it seems the logical choice, even if it means more wires to connect
anacz1
11-06-2006, 11:00 AM
The Pioneer Blu-Ray player definately handles DTS-HD, Dolby Digital Plus. I had thought the SONY would also have an onboard DTS-HD decoder & 7.1 output (or multi-channel PCM over HDMI 1.2).:(
http://www.avland.co.uk/pioneer/bdphd1/bdp-hd1.htm
look at the price 1000 quid, forget it :thumbsdow
wait another 4 months after its release date!
The Nightfly
11-06-2006, 12:02 PM
If the Pioneer does everything I want, now and in the future, i.e. 1080p@24Hz, fully supported DD+, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD, HDMI 1.3, then I don't think £1K is too unreasonable. That's a lot less than most top end SD DVD players.
Allan
Packetfront
11-06-2006, 1:23 PM
The European Pioneer Blu-Ray supports PAL and NTSC output, great news!
Pioneer BDP-HD1
Plays High Definition Blu-Ray Discs & Standard DVD's
DTS-HD Compatible
25GB Single Layer Playback
50GB Dual Layer Playback
Plays WMA/MP3/JPEG
Ethernet Networking Port
1080p Video Resolution
1080p Upscaling Output
Visually Rich HD-GUI
HDMI v1.2A (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) Digital Link for direct connection to a Plasma
PAL & NTSC Progressive Scan Output
Full DVD-RW compatibility, incl. 'VR' format
Twin SCARTs with RGB thru-put
Games Guru
11-06-2006, 1:30 PM
At $1K it almost makes the PS3 look like a bargain! :eek:
If you look on the top of the E3 2006 PS3 it has gt the Dolby TrueHD and I presume DTS lossless symbols with HDMI 1.3, all for only £425, with probably better processing chips, if not the software. So the PS3 might be the first worthwhile BD player, maybe even over the BDP-S1. Strange...
EDIT: there are some pics on the euro PS3 site: http://eu.playstation.com/ps3/
Under gallery, there is a close-up of the top, clearly visible is Dolby TrueHD symbol. OT, I think PS3 looks pretty good design-wise, and the curve reminds me of the Bose lifestyle systems, or whatever it is they call them.
FluxZero
12-06-2006, 7:29 AM
I would also say that until someone has held or messed about with the Sony unit, stating that the build quality "looks" like it is better than the Tosh is clearly rubbish. Even then the actual build in operation should be monitored. Sony's first DVP-S715 and 7700 players had one of the least impressive drive mechanisms that vibrated like mad with some studio pressings, despite having outstanding build quality.
Russell
I have played around with the hjap model the one taht still has the disc caddies and its a beast. The eng group must have put a lot of hours into it. it was heave and solidly built. Dont know how simillar theese are but the design looks identical.
However the picture it was showing was only 1080i on a v-series BRAVIA coz that the best we have in Australia. :( i wish we had the x-series already.