View Full Version : So who is/has ordered a blu-ray player?
klacey
23-05-2006, 6:35 PM
It seems that no one has talked about getting a blu-ray player, seems very one sided. So i thought i would start a thread on who is getting a blu-ray come june 20th.
What player are you going for?
What movies are you going to get?
Im looking at getting the pioneer or samsung models, and movies, well most of the announced ones so far are on my list.:grin:
adrianwright
23-05-2006, 6:50 PM
Hello klacey,
I am getting the Sony Bluray once this is available and already have the HD-D1.
Cannot get enough HD goodness.
Ordered Ultraviolet, Underworld Evolution and Resident Evil Apocolypse on BD.
Roll on August
klacey
23-05-2006, 6:54 PM
Hello klacey,
I am getting the Sony Bluray once this is available and already have the HD-D1.
Cannot get enough HD goodness.
Ordered Ultraviolet, Underworld Evolution and Resident Evil Apocolypse on BD.
Roll on August
Where abouts you ordering from?
Why august, they are out in june
It seems that no one has talked about getting a blu-ray player, seems very one sided. So i thought i would start a thread on who is getting a blu-ray come june 20th.
What player are you going for?
What movies are you going to get?
Im looking at getting the pioneer or samsung models, and movies, well most of the announced ones so far are on my list.:grin:
I didn't think BD players would be available in US until July-August at the earliest. Sony USA shows mid August as anticipated availability for the $999 player. I think Samsung ($999) may be first to market at some point in July with Pioneer ($1800 :eek: ) about September time. Also I read a statement from a Sony exec (Stan Glasgow) saying they would struggle to meet anticipated demand in the US for the foreseable future.
Given the much higher cost of these players and the fact that I've now got access to HD content via HD DVD I'll sit out the 1st gen BD players.
AVI
This blue-ray looks very populor..kev..2 members not bad going .:rotfl:
For now i am happy with my HD-A1, plus i have SkyHD so i have access to many films in HD via them.
I will get BD at some posint but will wait for a UK player and for the price to be around £200-£300
klacey
23-05-2006, 7:59 PM
This blue-ray looks very populor..kev..2 members not bad going .:rotfl:
Never mind, maybe i should just stick with hd dvd.:grin:
klacey
23-05-2006, 8:06 PM
I didn't think BD players would be available in US until July-August at the earliest. Sony USA shows mid August as anticipated availability for the $999 player. I think Samsung ($999) may be first to market at some point in July with Pioneer ($1800 :eek: ) about September time. Also I read a statement from a Sony exec (Stan Glasgow) saying they would struggle to meet anticipated demand in the US for the foreseable future.
Given the much higher cost of these players and the fact that I've now got access to HD content via HD DVD I'll sit out the 1st gen BD players.
AVI
I keep seeing 20th june when i check for the release date, was planning on getting one from the states again. Might as well wait for the european release.
spikerules
23-05-2006, 8:18 PM
It seems that no one has talked about getting a blu-ray player, seems very one sided. So i thought i would start a thread on who is getting a blu-ray come june 20th.
What player are you going for?
What movies are you going to get?
Im looking at getting the pioneer or samsung models, and movies, well most of the announced ones so far are on my list.:grin:
As you may probably know from my past ramblings, I am, and always will be, an avid Blu-Ray supporter! However, I will not under any circumstances (unless for silly reason the PS3 doesn't support movie playback!) buy a standalone Blu-Ray player!
For £425 I can buy a games console, Internet browser, Online ready computer for easy firmware upgrade and demo/trailer downloads, storage device and BD movie player.... why would I buy a standalone player, especially seeing as though I have SkyHD (being installed on the 30th May) and a Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD player?
I think that waiting an extra couple of months for the UK release of the PS3 will 1) be cheaper than importing just a few months prior to release 2) be much easier to buy in the local GAME than worrying about all the import woes and 3) be much better value for money! Plus, I bet that GAME will do a free BD film when buying a PS3, as they did with the PS2. If not, I know they will do special bundle offers... no doubt in fact:)
So in conclusion, I think waiting is the best option and is the only real choice IMHO.
I keep seeing 20th june when i check for the release date, was planning on getting one from the states again. Might as well wait for the european release.
Sony
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/-/-/-/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?CategoryName=hav_bluraydiscsub&ProductSKU=BDPS1
I think Samsung are quoting June availbility.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/DVDPlayer/Blu_ray/BD_P1000XAA.asp?page=Specifications
AVI
lfletcher
23-05-2006, 8:29 PM
I'm gonna pick one up when I go to the US in August, prolly the Pioneer or the Sony, depending which one is actually out.
Already have 10 discs on pre-order.
Hope my HD-DVD, Blu Ray and Sky HD can all play nicely.
Louis Mazzini
23-05-2006, 9:59 PM
Plus, I bet that GAME will do a free BD film when buying a PS3, as they did with the PS2. If not, I know they will do special bundle offers... no doubt in fact:).
Yes, I bet GAME will throw in a free BD film too (albeit a hopeless one, e.g. Resident Evil), plus a poor game and a GAME branded game case holder or some other such tat - and all for just an extra £100..!
Horace
23-05-2006, 10:31 PM
I'm currently awaiting delivery of my US XA1 but plan on buying a UK blu-ray player. As I understand it, the hi-def discs should be region free and this way I'll be able to upscale my current NTSC and PAL DVDs with this combination.
Lee
I'm currently awaiting delivery of my US XA1 but plan on buying a UK blu-ray player. As I understand it, the hi-def discs should be region free and this way I'll be able to upscale my current NTSC and PAL DVDs with this combination.
Lee
I believe HD-DVD will be region free but you may still have US version titles encoded at 24fps and Euro versions encoded at 25fps. Not sure if you would be able to play a 25fps version in the US XA1.
AVI
ace_brodie
24-05-2006, 12:02 AM
ive ordered my playstation 3 for november.... does that count?
Andy
klacey
24-05-2006, 7:19 AM
ive ordered my playstation 3 for november.... does that count?
Andy
Yeah why not, it will play bd.:grin:
klacey
24-05-2006, 6:38 PM
I didn't think BD players would be available in US until July-August at the earliest. Sony USA shows mid August as anticipated availability for the $999 player. I think Samsung ($999) may be first to market at some point in July with Pioneer ($1800 :eek: ) about September time. Also I read a statement from a Sony exec (Stan Glasgow) saying they would struggle to meet anticipated demand in the US for the foreseable future.
Given the much higher cost of these players and the fact that I've now got access to HD content via HD DVD I'll sit out the 1st gen BD players.
AVI
Hiya Avi m8, been doing some searches on the net on the release dates on blu-ray players. You are right about the sony player coming out round august but the samsung and pioneer players are still due for june 20th release, just have to wait and see i guess.:thumbsup:
Hiya Avi m8, been doing some searches on the net on the release dates on blu-ray players. You are right about the sony player coming out round august but the samsung and pioneer players are still due for june 20th release, just have to wait and see i guess.:thumbsup:
M8 can't remember where I saw Sep for the Pio. I may have dreamt it ;) I was interested in the size of the BD players as I thought they where going to be a lot smaller than the A1. But looking at the spec it looks like the Samsung is smallest but at 16.9"x12.8"x3.1" it's not that much smaller than the A1.
AVI
Albion
24-05-2006, 7:08 PM
I heard some bloke was auctioning one of his kidneys on e-bay so he could buy a new blu-ray player.
Co-incidentally a man in the news who had got his hands on a blu-ray player had also just swapped it for a new kidney
A spokesman for Sony said the company was astonished when they heard this news, as they thought a new blu-ray player was worth at least a liver.
:)
Knightshade
24-05-2006, 7:19 PM
I heard some bloke was auctioning one of his kidneys on e-bay so he could buy a new blu-ray player.
Co-incidentally a man in the news who had got his hands on a blu-ray player had also just swapped it for a new kidney
A spokesman for Sony said the company was astonished when they heard this news, as they thought a new blu-ray player was worth at least a liver.
:)
:rotfl:
Probably get one in a year or so when they learn how to build them properly......:devil:
I heard some bloke was auctioning one of his kidneys on e-bay so he could buy a new blu-ray player.
Co-incidentally a man in the news who had got his hands on a blu-ray player had also just swapped it for a new kidney
A spokesman for Sony said the company was astonished when they heard this news, as they thought a new blu-ray player was worth at least a liver.
:)
If you buy one do you get a free brain transplant?.:grin:
klacey
24-05-2006, 7:58 PM
For anyone who is interested in blu-ray this site is worth a look at.
www.blu-ray.com
I heard some bloke was auctioning one of his kidneys on e-bay so he could buy a new blu-ray player.
Co-incidentally a man in the news who had got his hands on a blu-ray player had also just swapped it for a new kidney
A spokesman for Sony said the company was astonished when they heard this news, as they thought a new blu-ray player was worth at least a liver.
:)
Just one kidney ? That's not bad. I hear Pioneer are charging an arm and a leg ! :grin:
AVI
klacey
24-05-2006, 8:12 PM
Just one kidney ? That's not bad. I hear Pioneer are charging an arm and a leg ! :grin:
AVI
Classic :rotfl:
The Nightfly
24-05-2006, 8:41 PM
For anyone who is interested in blu-ray this site is worth a look at.
www.blu-ray.com
I had a look at the blu-ray players on that site and they all look to be a bit reminiscent of the Toshiba (ie big and chunky). Are the blu-ray players basically PC's under the skin as well?
Nicest looking player in that lot was the LG. Quite understated and elegent, just the opposite of the (bling-looking) Pioneer.
Allan
klacey
24-05-2006, 9:02 PM
I had a look at the blu-ray players on that site and they all look to be a bit reminiscent of the Toshiba (ie big and chunky). Are the blu-ray players basically PC's under the skin as well?
Nicest looking player in that lot was the LG. Quite understated and elegent, just the opposite of the (bling-looking) Pioneer.
Allan
Not sure whats under the boot on the blu-ray players, im sure there will be that nutter who dismantled his hd dvd, doing the same with blu-ray.:grin:
Hiya Avi m8, been doing some searches on the net on the release dates on blu-ray players. You are right about the sony player coming out round august but the samsung and pioneer players are still due for june 20th release, just have to wait and see i guess.:thumbsup:
Appears Pioneer have delayed their BD player until September according to a Pioneer dealer on AVS.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=681434
AVS
klacey
26-05-2006, 4:43 PM
Appears Pioneer have delayed their BD player until September according to a Pioneer dealer on AVS.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=681434
AVS
Really not looking good for blu-ray thus far.
X3ELS
26-05-2006, 10:45 PM
:eek: I have heard the Sony may not launch till Nov
TVR_Fan
27-05-2006, 1:10 AM
I,m just getting my Blu-Ray player through a PS3, but I am looking to invest in a Blu-Ray recorder. Also I pre-ordered my PS3 a day after it first went up on GameStation.
I've ordered (well, I got my brother to order - I bought the HDTV) the American Sony BDP-S1 from Movietyme. Can't wait!
andrewjh009
27-05-2006, 2:32 AM
Even i'm not enough of a Sony Fanboy to order without any reports being given as to how it performs:eek:
Tell me about it... I wish I was enough of a Sony fanboy to want a Playstation 3 though. If that performs better I'll be majorly, er, "peeved".
I've ordered (well, I got my brother to order - I bought the HDTV) the American Sony BDP-S1 from Movietyme. Can't wait!
So delivery Uk late August - early September assuming Sony make their release date of August 15.
AVI
Nic Rhodes
27-05-2006, 6:58 AM
Expect delays ;)
Andy.T
27-05-2006, 8:12 AM
For £425 I can buy a games console, Internet browser, Online ready computer for easy firmware upgrade and demo/trailer downloads, storage device and BD movie player.... why would I buy a standalone player
Did you ever see a PS2 used as a DVD player, it was... uninspiring. :confused:
Even the 360 has limitations in this regard. I wouldn't presume the PS3 will be a good Blu Ray player until it's been checked out. Fingers crossed though.
richard plumb
27-05-2006, 8:23 AM
Did you ever see a PS2 used as a DVD player, it was... uninspiring. :confused:
Even the 360 has limitations in this regard. I wouldn't presume the PS3 will be a good Blu Ray player until it's been checked out. Fingers crossed though.
absolutely. Power-wise its not a problem, its simply down to how good the playback software is that Sony writes
Hopefully Microsoft's HDDVD drive add-on for the X360 will persuade sony that the PS3 needs to be a really good Bluray player.
Krobar
29-05-2006, 2:16 PM
I still dont see what I really want in an HD player, both formats and I-Link output of all new audio formats converted to PCM at native depth and sampling rate. In the mean tim I'll stick with my cheaper Toshiba, maybe Pioneer, Denon or Onkyo will eventually release what I want.
The Nightfly
29-05-2006, 9:13 PM
I'm beginning to warm to the Sony Blu-ray player. Will watch the first user reviews closely to get an idea of build quality, robustness and general operability. If things look favourable, this may be the one to go for.
My opinion on this whole format thing is that neither format will show any clear advantage over the other for picture or sound in the short term. Longer term, blu-ray has a bit of expansion room for things like 7.1 lossless audio. HD-DVD has the short term advantage of being cheaper, however unless other manufacturers join in I can't see Toshiba being able carry the format all by itself. I think both formats will carry on side by side for a couple of years but blu-ray will have the legs to make it the eventual winner. Just my 2p worth.
Doesn't mean I won't get a HD-DVD player as well though. If they can get those bugs ironed out and maybe a price-drop to $399 towards the end of the year then it would make a nice stop-gap for those titles only available on HD-DVD.
Allan
mgillespie
30-05-2006, 7:51 PM
I ordered a PS3 for November, so yes, I got a Blu Ray on order.
I believe HD-DVD will be region free but you may still have US version titles encoded at 24fps and Euro versions encoded at 25fps. Not sure if you would be able to play a 25fps version in the US XA1.
I thought the data on all of the disks (hddvd and bluray) is 24fps 1080p, and its up to the devices to sort out how thats output to the screens?
pez
TheBiGW
31-05-2006, 11:15 AM
For £425 I can buy a games console, Internet browser, Online ready computer for easy firmware upgrade and demo/trailer downloads, storage device and BD movie player.... why would I buy a standalone player,
Erm, perhaps because BD players will be out in a month or so and you won't be able to get a PS3 until mid November? And it will cost you more than 425 as you'll have to get a bundle to get one at launch.
Thunder
31-05-2006, 12:34 PM
absolutely. Power-wise its not a problem, its simply down to how good the playback software is that Sony writes
And the power supply and the transport and the stability of the digital audio output and the quality of the video output stages and and and and..........:)
Lyris
31-05-2006, 12:45 PM
Yeah, honestly I'd rather pay the extra now and get the standalone player. Teething faults aside - (I'm hoping there's no Toshiba HD-A1 style bootup wait) - I've never come across a games console that has playback or usability good enough to make me want to abandon my standalone players. Sony hype or not, I don't really see why the PS3 would be any different.
rentagas
31-05-2006, 1:30 PM
I'd order one if I knew the release date
I'd rather buy the Sony one but it looks like the Samsung will be out first.
If the Sony one is out next month i'd buy it but if it's Sepetember/October I'd rather wait until the UK release ?November. Anyone know for sure?
andrewjh009
31-05-2006, 2:53 PM
Erm, perhaps because BD players will be out in a month or so and you won't be able to get a PS3 until mid November? And it will cost you more than 425 as you'll have to get a bundle to get one at launch.
His will be an official uk product though:thumbsup:
rentagas
31-05-2006, 3:27 PM
Am I right in thinking that the Samsung ships 25/6/06. Pioneer/Sony in August?
With the Dollar as it is I suppose the Samsung/Sony will cost around £700 to import with tax/duty.
Anything wrong with the Samsung other than the badge?
Nic Rhodes
31-05-2006, 3:37 PM
It plays CDs where as many of the others don't!!
Not trying to say that the lack of CD support isn't strange, but do many people use that feature on their current DVD players?
Nic Rhodes
31-05-2006, 4:23 PM
It is quite an even and surprizing spread, many don't used CD at all, many just sometimes and many all the time. For some it an irrelevance, for others they could live without it but it will be a deal breaker for some people.
andrewjh009
31-05-2006, 6:03 PM
Not trying to say that the lack of CD support isn't strange, but do many people use that feature on their current DVD players?
Sometimes, sounds good through my 2.0 setup, i used to use my desktop pc for music but changed to a laptop which doesn't sound that great, mainly listen to music in the car.
mgillespie
31-05-2006, 8:15 PM
Erm, perhaps because BD players will be out in a month or so and you won't be able to get a PS3 until mid November? And it will cost you more than 425 as you'll have to get a bundle to get one at launch.
Funny, I have one on order with no bundle....
As for the quality, I would expect the PS3 BD-ROM player to be as good as a stanalone unit performancewise, it's a purely digital signal path.
Am I right in thinking that the Samsung ships 25/6/06. Pioneer/Sony in August?
With the Dollar as it is I suppose the Samsung/Sony will cost around £700 to import with tax/duty.
Anything wrong with the Samsung other than the badge?
The Pinoeer has been delayed until Nov in the US. last I heard Samsung is end of June and Sony somewhere between end of June and mid August.
I think £700 sound too low if your including shipping, import duty and VAT.
AVI
mak99
01-06-2006, 11:49 PM
I think £700 sound too low if your including shipping, import duty and VAT.
AVI
If you're looking to have one shipped from the us, that's seems to be very doable price for the player + shipping. not sure how much the import/VAT would run you guys...any idea??
Lyris
02-06-2006, 12:17 AM
As for the quality, I would expect the PS3 BD-ROM player to be as good as a stanalone unit performancewise, it's a purely digital signal path.
Personally I think that's a nice thought but I can't agree - look at all the variations between different types of HDMI-equipped DVD players with regards to the quality of deinterlacing, upscaling etc. Of course that won't be as quite a huge issue for Blu-Ray playback I don't think (?) - but the quality of the DOWNscaling for a lot of people who have 720p TVs (which must account for nearly all the HDTVs currently in peoples' homes) could create performance variations.
not sure how much the import/VAT would run you guys...any idea??
The VAT will be 17.5% as usual and the import tax, and DVD players (what it'd probably be classed as) would come under 14% (see Customs & Excise Common Internet Goods here: http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/downloadFile?contentID=HMCE_PROD_009989 )
Packetfront
02-06-2006, 9:41 AM
If you're looking to have one shipped from the us, that's seems to be very doable price for the player + shipping. not sure how much the import/VAT would run you guys...any idea??
Are you taking pre-orders on the Sony BD player?
ahin4114
02-06-2006, 12:24 PM
Personally I think a dedicated Blu-ray player is the way to go. I'll be getting the PS3, but I'll only use the Blu-ray playback as a stopgap until probably the second gen of stand alone decks come out. Lots of people keep forgetting the picture is only half the HD experience, I'll be after something that can output the higher resolution audio as well, and that's gonna require RCA audio outs, and lots of them.
mak99
02-06-2006, 10:18 PM
The VAT will be 17.5% as usual and the import tax, and DVD players (what it'd probably be classed as) would come under 14% (see Customs & Excise Common Internet Goods here: http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/downloadFile?contentID=HMCE_PROD_009989 )
Thanks for the link, but I couldn't open on this side of the pond - guess the 0's and 1's got too wet... ;)
So you guys pay an add'l 31.5% on the declared value when I send over a Toshiba HD-DVD player? Would this be the same % you'd pay on a BD player too? Thanks in advance for the clarification...
EDIT - btw, ahin4114 - great avatar you have, one of my favorite movies...
Stuart Kirby
05-06-2006, 9:38 AM
I will be ordering a BluRay player, probably when the likes of Denon announce/release one. Although as per usual with me, interested to see what Panasonic come up with ;) But I reckon I'll be waiting for Denon or a similar manufacturer.
brianjones1
09-02-2007, 11:20 AM
I decided to take the plunge and ordered the Sony BDP-S1 from a guy on ebay (California - only seems to be a few selling through ebay). He had great feedback, cost me £400 (great exchange rate helps of course!), shipping £60, and customs charged me £54 including £13 handling fee. The guy marked its value as £80, took about 10 days all together. Stunning machine, picture is amazing. Machine looks nice alongside my Sony DVP-S9000ES standard dvd player.
Recommend anybody wanting to get one now, look on ebay.
Lyris
09-02-2007, 11:26 AM
His will be an official uk product though:thumbsup:
Why the optimism for an official UK product? All it means is that he'll be able to pick from an initially more limited selection of more expensive discs, some of which will be more censored compared to their US counterparts.
I'll stick to my official Sony product and keep the studios' region nonsense out of it as best I can :thumbsup:
Jakeh1969
09-02-2007, 11:27 AM
I decided to take the plunge and ordered the Sony BDP-S1 from a guy on ebay (California - only seems to be a few selling through ebay). He had great feedback, cost me £400 (great exchange rate helps of course!), shipping £60, and customs charged me £54 including £13 handling fee. The guy marked its value as £80, took about 10 days all together. Stunning machine, picture is amazing. Machine looks nice alongside my Sony DVP-S9000ES standard dvd player.
Recommend anybody wanting to get one now, look on ebay.
Good price there Brian but how Customs can get away with charging VAT and import duty on the shipping charge as well I'll never know.....
brianjones1
09-02-2007, 11:31 AM
Good price there Brian but how Customs can get away with charging VAT and import duty on the shipping charge as well I'll never know.....
I agree, but still a lot less than I couls have ended up paying. One of the reasons that convinced me to buy from the US now. Did exactly the same 10 years ago with my first dvd player.