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hunts1uk
19-05-2006, 8:04 PM
Ok had my HD-XA1 for a few days now,from day one had lots of ERROR 1 and ERROR 0.

Just wondering if any others have had the problems?
Brought a new cable today say down to watch phantom of the opera,picture and sound where out of this world.Even my girlfriend said how god it was:eek: .30 mins in to the film i had decided i was going to keep the player,10 mins later it froze then ERROR 1 appeared on the HDDVD player.:suicide:

Gutted well gutted.

So is anyone else having problems with there HD-XA1 or HD-A1?

filmman
19-05-2006, 8:34 PM
hi
had my XA1 for 4 days and no problems at all. took it round to RTFM in horsham played all day with 3 different films played fine.Gave a fantastic picture on his 3chipSim and a super one on my H78.

BigAl217
19-05-2006, 8:52 PM
Hi Hunts looks like my XA1 problem is not similar to yours have watched two films without any probs now the error 1 meassage I get is when Lumagen is in the chain and in this case I cant even get film to start.

Cheers
Alan

Avi
19-05-2006, 8:53 PM
Had my A1 for over 3 weeks and luvin it. No probs with any title so far and I've watched 10. Just finished watching Jarhead.

AVI

Avi
19-05-2006, 8:55 PM
Hi Hunts looks like my XA1 problem is not similar to yours have watched two films without any probs now the error 1 meassage I get is when Lumagen is in the chain and in this case I cant even get film to start.

Cheers
Alan


How have you set the HDCP setting in the Lumagen ? My HPD doesn't cause any HDMI errors.

AVI

Sheepking
19-05-2006, 9:39 PM
Ok had my HD-XA1 for a few days now,from day one had lots of ERROR 1 and ERROR 0.

Just wondering if any others have had the problems?
Brought a new cable today say down to watch phantom of the opera,picture and sound where out of this world.Even my girlfriend said how god it was:eek: .30 mins in to the film i had decided i was going to keep the player,10 mins later it froze then ERROR 1 appeared on the HDDVD player.:suicide:

Gutted well gutted.

So is anyone else having problems with there HD-XA1 or HD-A1?

Sounds like you've got a faulty machine. Is craig getting it exchanged for you?

s.morris
19-05-2006, 11:27 PM
No problems at all just love the picture :thumbsup:


Steve

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BigAl217
19-05-2006, 11:56 PM
How have you set the HDCP setting in the Lumagen ? My HPD doesn't cause any HDMI errors.

AVI

Well the only one I can see is either HDCP on or off and I have it set to on. If there are any other settings I should be looking at then feel free to fire away with things I should check.

That said the picture is pretty stunning direct into the Ruby only thing I have noticed is a small judder on fast pans but guess I can live with that.

Cheers
Alan

klacey
20-05-2006, 5:15 AM
Had a few freezes the first week i got it, but now no problems at all, watch 10 hd movies and 3 sd, loving it.:thumbsup:

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 7:16 AM
Sounds like you've got a faulty machine. Is craig getting it exchanged for you?

Full refund,excellent service by Craig and movietyme.Not sure if i should get it exchanged now as i might just be very unlucky.

Took about 10 mins to get the disk out of the player lastnight,sat watching a film after 20 mins ERROR 1 just showed up on player,then says NO SIGNAL on my sagem.:mad:

Will have another play today.
If anyons else is using the sagem DLP can they post if there having any problems please?

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 7:25 AM
Does anyone think my problems might be caused by the scaler in the sagem DLP?:confused:

Hi Hunts looks like my XA1 problem is not similar to yours have watched two films without any probs now the error 1 meassage I get is when Lumagen is in the chain and in this case I cant even get film to start.

Cheers
Alan

Just read Big Al's post and he was having problems when using his Lumagen?

harveyxxx
20-05-2006, 7:27 AM
hi
i have the sagem you've got it's waiting to be picked by sagem buts thats another story.

i found the picture quality was terrible it's so bad that it makes my klegg sd dvd player look hi-def only had the remote problem. not tried watching anything through it for longer than 5 mins so i can't help but i have had no problems with my player connected to my hitatchi 32ld7200 and picture quality is out of this world.

will try it on sagem again tomorrow so if any probs will let you know

simon

Avi
20-05-2006, 7:37 AM
Does anyone think my problems might be caused by the scaler in the sagem DLP?:confused:



Just read Big Al's post and he was having problems when using his Lumagen?


Your problem sounds like it maybe related to HDCP. So I guess it could be one of three things; Fault in the Tosh, Fault in the Sagem or a cable issue. Do you have access to any other upscaling HDMI player to test HDCP ? Also does the XA1 exhibit the same symptoms with upscaled DVD as well as HD DVD ?

I have a Lumagen HDP/Fuji P50XHA and it works fine with the A1.
AVI

Avi
20-05-2006, 7:42 AM
Well the only one I can see is either HDCP on or off and I have it set to on. If there are any other settings I should be looking at then feel free to fire away with things I should check.

That said the picture is pretty stunning direct into the Ruby only thing I have noticed is a small judder on fast pans but guess I can live with that.

Cheers
Alan


Alan

DVI on my HDP unit which appear fine with the A1 is-

DVI>EDID=DFLT
DVI>HOTPLUG=ON
DVI>HDCP=ON

AVI

asimmd
20-05-2006, 8:32 AM
Just looked on Toshiba's USA website and found this;

"Because HD DVD is a new format that makes use of new technologies, certain disc, digital connection and other compatibility issues are possible. If you experience compatibility problems, please contact Toshiba Customer Service.

Firmware update may be required for some interactive features depending on content, which may also require an always-on broadband internet connection. Some features may require additional bandwidth.

Some Twin Format Discs may not be compatible with all players.

Some standard discs may not be compatible. If you experience compatibility problems, please contact Toshiba Customer Service"

I know it dosen't help,but it shows how fragile the technology may be.

Alan

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 8:33 AM
will try it on sagem again tomorrow so if any probs will let you know

simon

Will be very intrested with the results Simon,im going to try again later today with the HDDVD player set @ 720p so the sagem doesn't need to scale anything.


Well i had a new Sagem delivered yesterday from avwow(no hum at all perfect).The problem i've had with the HDDVD player has been the same on both sets.:confused:

Avi
20-05-2006, 8:49 AM
Just looked on Toshiba's USA website and found this;

"Because HD DVD is a new format that makes use of new technologies, certain disc, digital connection and other compatibility issues are possible. If you experience compatibility problems, please contact Toshiba Customer Service.

Firmware update may be required for some interactive features depending on content, which may also require an always-on broadband internet connection. Some features may require additional bandwidth.

Some Twin Format Discs may not be compatible with all players.

Some standard discs may not be compatible. If you experience compatibility problems, please contact Toshiba Customer Service"

I know it dosen't help,but it shows how fragile the technology may be.

Alan


I think it's just arse covering. There is so much brand new stuff in HD DVD such as AACS that things don't happen as we would expect compared with DVD. A good example is the HDMI error people have when they change source whilst playing a HD DVD. Toshiba say this isn't a bug but a requirement of AACS to prevent playback if HDCP is lost ??? I think it will take a little time to work out what's a bug and what's a "new" requirement of the format compared to existing DVD.

AVI

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 12:14 PM
Well went to have another go at watching a film,fired the HDDVD player up,pressed the door waited and waited and nothing.:confused: tried to power the machine down using remote and still nothing.Didn't keep pressing buttons just done it the once,tried opening door with button on machine and still nothing.Couldn't even power it down with button on machine it's completly locked up.:mad:

Unplugged it and boxed it back up now waiting for collection on monday.:(

BigAl217
20-05-2006, 12:20 PM
Hi Hunts, I think it would be well worth getting a replacement unit. Watching Jarhead last night I was really impressed, and as the film continues you can really see the quality over SD DVD.

That said first thing I thought was my player is faulty when I stasrted having my probs, (looks like this HDCP thing could be a real pain). Dont know if you have anyone nearby with a HDCP compliant display you could test the player on but could be an option as it may just be the interaction with the Sagem.

Im baffled with my issue with the Lumagen as other people seem to have it working fine and all settings are the same but I have a definate problem with the HDCP handshake when it is in the chain but not overly concerned at the moment as it stilll looks great run direct to display.

Hope you get it sorted must be frustrating for sure.

Avi
20-05-2006, 12:29 PM
Hi Hunts, I think it would be well worth getting a replacement unit. Watching Jarhead last night I was really impressed, and as the film continues you can really see the quality over SD DVD.

That said first thing I thought was my player is faulty when I stasrted having my probs, (looks like this HDCP thing could be a real pain). Dont know if you have anyone nearby with a HDCP compliant display you could test the player on but could be an option as it may just be the interaction with the Sagem.

Im baffled with my issue with the Lumagen as other people seem to have it working fine and all settings are the same but I have a definate problem with the HDCP handshake when it is in the chain but not overly concerned at the moment as it stilll looks great run direct to display.

Hope you get it sorted must be frustrating for sure.

BigAl

Out of interest what version of firmware are you using in the Luma ?

AVI

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 12:32 PM
BigAl217

thanks for reply m8,going to see what simon has to say when he connects his HDDVD player to his sagem.The picture does look outstanding but i've not got to see more then 35mins of the 3 film i own at the moment.
Don't have any R1 dvds either so i can't check SD dvd out.:( Might wait a month and see what the firmwares do for the players.It does make a lot of noise and take a while to load and start and look like i've just got a bad machine as no one else is having these problems.:mad:

1080 jawbreaker
20-05-2006, 12:32 PM
did you try connecting via component?

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 12:34 PM
harveyxxx

could you let me know if your sagem finds the player as soon as you switch it on?When i turned the player on and set the input to HDMI 1 on the sagem i get no signal for a good 3 mins even though the players switch on.:confused:

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 12:36 PM
did you try connecting via component?


No i haven't yet m8.It's back in the box at the moment.:thumbsdow

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 1:22 PM
Just got it back out of the box to try component,only got a 1m component cable so struggling a bit.:(
Finally getting to watch the end of Assult on precinct 13.Will post if i get to watch the whole film.:rolleyes:

Roughneck1
20-05-2006, 1:34 PM
We shall be trying the unit on Tuesday as soon as its back here. Will try it on existing setup that we know works.

BigAl217
20-05-2006, 3:30 PM
Does sound like a duff machine Hunts although I have some fan noise on mine I cant hear it at all really although I do sit around 4 meters away and cant hear any disc noise.

AVI I am running the latest firmware, it was 042506 but then when I had the problem the first thing I tried was updating to latest version.

I was thinking it could be an issue with the HDCP handshake back from the Ruby to the Lumagen but I know someone that is using this combo without a problem although theirs is a HDQ Luma

Cheers
Alan

X3ELS
20-05-2006, 5:56 PM
Handshake from Ruby to Lumagen is irrelevant to the input mate. Drop Gordon an email, i think you are seeing a problem i am aware of with the Lumagens and Tosh on old HDP's.

BigAl217
20-05-2006, 6:14 PM
Handshake from Ruby to Lumagen is irrelevant to the input mate. Drop Gordon an email, i think you are seeing a problem i am aware of with the Lumagens and Tosh on old HDP's.


Old!! what are you saying? Does this mean the product you sold me not two years ago is Obsolete! Surely that warrants a free HDQ upgrade if not a Radience!! :smashin:

I'll drop Gordon a line m8 see if hes got any ideas.

hunts1uk
20-05-2006, 6:37 PM
We shall be trying the unit on Tuesday as soon as its back here. Will try it on existing setup that we know works.


Craig i can promise you im telling the truth:grin:

Just watched 2 films using component without any problems.Not sure if it's just a HDMI problem with the HDDVD player or a match with the sagem.Will be very intrested to see how Harveyxxx gets on with his.

Pifko i see you also have been having problems.

Avi
21-05-2006, 9:56 AM
Craig i can promise you im telling the truth:grin:

Just watched 2 films using component without any problems.Not sure if it's just a HDMI problem with the HDDVD player or a match with the sagem.Will be very intrested to see how Harveyxxx gets on with his.

Pifko i see you also have been having problems.


AVSForum has a much larger HD-DVD user base and there may be possible solutions/common compatibility issues that can help us UK folk.

If your interested link here - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=151

AVI

harveyxxx
21-05-2006, 6:34 PM
hi
tried the ax1 throught my sagem with serenity no problems until after the end credits instead of going back to the menu i had a blank screen and hdmi error 0 so as suggested on here i pressed play twice and the disc went straight to the menu page.

did not try component but might later. also it took 30 seconds from turning on the player till it came on screen the whole 30 seconds i had no signal on screen.

the only thing i am still not happy about is the picture it still looks stunning on my 32" lcd but dull on my sagem.

i am very happy with the player but it is very tempremental.

simon

shaithis
22-05-2006, 4:00 PM
Xa1 here, have watched TLS, Training Day, Serenity and swordfish so far without a single issue :thumbsup:

spikerules
22-05-2006, 5:05 PM
I haven't yet watched a film all the way through, but I did get a crash/stall on Swordfish whilst I was playing around woth the remote... I guess it serves me right?

jon1
22-05-2006, 5:41 PM
spikerules]I haven't yet watched a film all the way through, but I did get a crash/stall on Swordfish whilst I was playing around woth the remote... I guess it serves me right?



That!s what happens when you play around with things.:nono: :grin:

hunts1uk
26-05-2006, 1:09 PM
Well upgraded my HDMI cable to an Ixos,watched my 1st whole film now:clap: using HDMI without any problems.Having no problems at all now with player and hope it stays that way:grin: .

So impressed with the picture now,goodfellas look excellent.Serenity later tonight can't wait.

Big thanks to Craig for everything he's done,great service m8.:grin: