Freesat HD Receiver

[vex]

Basic question really,

Where can I get one from?

I want the BBC channel (s) that they are going to be launching

Chris

[SamRadford]

The Pace DS810 is supposed to be designed for this but it's not available for a few days. I think it will be around £200. It includes a CAM slot for the likes of Euro 1080 etc.

The BBC will be broadcasting free to air for 12 Months as a trial.
The BBC's World Cup rights (about 50% of all games) will be free to air on Sat 28.6
The Channel guide will pick this up automatically.

Astra 2D Transponder 50
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Service id: 6940
Service name "6940"

[afc_dons]

I've seen this for as much as £299.99 pre-order....

But then again if you go here http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/hdtv.htm
its £189.95 much better methinks

[julian_1234]

I've seen this for as much as £299.99 pre-order....

But then again if you go here http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/hdtv.htm
its £189.95 much better methinks


I think that may be a typo. If you "return to the HDTV menu page" (near the top of the page on the link you gave), and then select page 2 for the Pace, it shows the price as £294 :(

[Nick_UK]

Things are always cheaper when they are out of stock :smashin:

[daverichards]

I bought the Humax Foxsat for £149.99 and it works perfectly with my sony 32" LCD. The picture is superb, i also didnt need to get a dish which i hear a lot of companies like currys are conning people into thinking. I just plugged mine into the sky digital dish and away i went.

I got my Receiver from Freesat Receivers (http://www.freesatreceivers.co.uk)

[virdi]

I bought the Humax Foxsat for £149.99 and it works perfectly with my sony 32" LCD. The picture is superb, i also didnt need to get a dish which i hear a lot of companies like currys are conning people into thinking. I just plugged mine into the sky digital dish and away i went.

I got my Receiver from Freesat Receivers (http://www.freesatreceivers.co.uk)

Hi - Which HD channels do u get free?

[benraz69]

Hi - Which HD channels do u get free?

BBC HD, ITV HD & Luxe HD.

[porta1108]

I bought the Humax Foxsat for £149.99 and it works perfectly with my sony 32" LCD. The picture is superb, i also didnt need to get a dish which i hear a lot of companies like currys are conning people into thinking. I just plugged mine into the sky digital dish and away i went.

I got my Receiver from Freesat Receivers (http://www.freesatreceivers.co.uk)

Dave,

Possibly a stupid question but what do you mean when you say "just plugged mine in"

I've got sky+ at the minute and was curious if I could run them alongside each other for the time being

[daverichards]

When i say i just plugged it in - it just plugs into my sky socket? I have a new build flat and it has a sky connector which means i can just plug into it and away I go.

If you have sky plus i imagine you can connect to that yeah

[Stephen Neal]

Dave,

Possibly a stupid question but what do you mean when you say "just plugged mine in"

I've got sky+ at the minute and was curious if I could run them alongside each other for the time being

If you want to run a Freesat HD receiver alongside a Sky + installation you will need to run a 3rd LNB feed from your dish - which is likely to have a Quad LNB with two feeds already going to the Sky+. If you don't have any other Sky receivers in your installation you should be fine.

If you unplug one of the two feeds going to the Sky+ you'll lose the ability to watch Live TV whilst recording another channel, or record two channels at the same time, and may get failed recordings.

You can't share one LNB feed between two tuners - as unlike TV aerials, the LNB is actually an active device controlled by the receiver, switching between 4 different bands and polarisations (Hi vertical, Hi horizontal, Lo vertical and Lo horizontal).

[daverichards]

I have a communal sky dish so i didn't have to do anything more complicated than plug straight into the sky outlet. I didnt have sky to start with so there was no issues for me.

Freesat HD is the way forward, I have a Toshiba 42xv505d and its superb!!:grin:

I was running on a sony 32" until recently but it looked too small so i upgraded!

[Simon Kemp]

CONNECTING FREESAT BOX AND SKY SD BOX IN SERIES VIA LNB IN/OUT PORTS
Dear Stephen Neal,
You kindly explained that an LNB is an active device controlled by the receiver which shouldn't therefore be used to connect two digital TV boxes together.
Earlier today I was loking at a Goodmans GFSAT200HD Freesat HD box in Argos and it had LNB In and LNB Out connectors on the back.
Is this to provide loopthrough and, if so, what is intended to be connected to the LNB Out connector? In particular, would anything good or bad happen if I connected the LNB In socket of my Sky TV SD box to the LNB Out port of the Goodmans Freesat HD box?
Apologies for asking what is probably a silly question, but I can't see the point of providing an LNB Out socket unless it is to connect another decoder box to.
Thanks, in advance, for your response.
Best regards,
Simon

[benraz69]

Is this to provide loopthrough and, if so, what is intended to be connected to the LNB Out connector?Another satellite receiver.

In particular, would anything good or bad happen if I connected the LNB In socket of my Sky TV SD box to the LNB Out port of the Goodmans Freesat HD box?

It'll allow you to use one receiver or the other. As Stephen mentioned above, an LNB is an active device with four combinations of bands/polarisations - therefore, when viewing on both receivers at the same time, the Freesat receiver (master) should have the full choice of channels, whereas the Sky Digibox (slave) will only be able to receive approximately a quarter of the available channels.

Hope that helps :)

[Simon Kemp]

Dear Benraz69,
It helps immensely. I was afraid that if I connected my Sky digibox to the LNB Out connector of a Goodmans GFSAT200HD box, and connected the Freesat box to my Sky dish, then the former might be badly damaged. Glad to learn that this is not so. I guess the next question is - how can one find out which channels would be lost from Sky if it was connected downstream of the Goodmans Freesat box? Where is this technical information kept?
Thanks for getting back to me so promptly, on behalf of Stephen Neal, and for educating me as to the peculiarities of LNB feeds. I'm afraid that I'm only a novice when it comes to satellite television, even though I did "A" Level Physics. I wonder how the elderly are meant to cope with the digital switchover - I guess a lot depends on the quality of advice one gets from the people who sell these things!
Best regards.
Yours appreciatively,
Simon

[andyr1]

being one of the 'elderly' that Simon has just referred to will someone be kind enough to humour me with an answer to this....I have a Sky+ box fed from a dual LNB...if I get a Goodman's with a loop through and use it on the same TV as the Sky+ will I be able to alternate between the Goodman's and Sky by powering one on and the other off?

[best-deal]

Really want to watch Euro in HD, thinking to get the Freesat box next day but before i take the plunge is the Humax Foxsat HD the best box i can buy at the moment? When will the PVR be out?

I have read contradicting things regarding how to connect the Freesat box, if i buy the box can i just take the 2 feeds from my sky plus box and plug them into the freesat box and it will work?

Also am i guaranteed solid picture because i read that it depends where the dish is placed but my sky plus SD comes in superb quality so the Freesat should be fine?

I noticed on the screen shot pictures there are borders on the broadcast is this the case with all of u? Is it like a trade off get HD but with borders?

[jwball]

The HD on my Humax box is perfect full screen with no borders.

[Starburst]

Really want to watch Euro in HD, thinking to get the Freesat box next day but before i take the plunge is the Humax Foxsat HD the best box i can buy at the moment? When will the PVR be out?

I have read contradicting things regarding how to connect the Freesat box, if i buy the box can i just take the 2 feeds from my sky plus box and plug them into the freesat box and it will work?

Also am i guaranteed solid picture because i read that it depends where the dish is placed but my sky plus SD comes in superb quality so the Freesat should be fine?

I noticed on the screen shot pictures there are borders on the broadcast is this the case with all of u? Is it like a trade off get HD but with borders?



No firm date on the PVR.
No problem using two feeds that are currently supplying a SKY+ with a Freesat DVR and so if the reception is fine for the SKY+ it will be fine for the Freesat box, the resulting picture may be different as they use different components to decode and process the image.

Some HD TV's pixel map 1:1 1080i or 720p, the latter would of course leave a black border all around and of course overscanning is offered by many HD displays.

[philb]

Is it possible to split a skyhd feed into both a humax AND Sky?

[simon194]

Another satellite receiver.



It'll allow you to use one receiver or the other. As Stephen mentioned above, an LNB is an active device with four combinations of bands/polarisations - therefore, when viewing on both receivers at the same time, the Freesat receiver (master) should have the full choice of channels, whereas the Sky Digibox (slave) will only be able to receive approximately a quarter of the available channels.

Hope that helps :)

If the LNB OUT is going to be used to loop through to a Sky box you will probably have to turn off the LNB power in the digibox installer menu unless the Freesat box is happy having up to 18V applied to the LNB OUT.

Of course this will mean that the Freesat box will have to be used to control the LNB when you watch programmes on the digibox.

I don't claim to have any knowledge of the internals of these Freesat boxes but my guess is that the LNB H/V switching voltage and 22kHz HI/LO band tone can not be passed from the LNB OUT to LNB IN to allow the digibox control of the LNB.

I may be completely wrong here but that's how it was back in the analogue sat days before dual LNB's were available. The master box had to control the LNB for the slave box.

[Bellboy21]

I would like to connect a HD TV box to a Hard Disc Recorder using the Component ports.
The supplied cable has three "RCA" connectors, each end. - Red, Yellow
and White.
Will this work for me? Obviously I will have to respect the Green ,
Blue , Red sequence.
BB

[Bellboy21]

The Freesat Web site seems only to be offering "Jam tomorrow".
Where can I find hard schedules of imminent extensions to the freesat HD services?

Also.
Where is the best source of existing HD TV schedules?
BB

[mannyo]

I would like to connect a HD TV box to a Hard Disc Recorder using the Component ports.
The supplied cable has three "RCA" connectors, each end. - Red, Yellow
and White.
Will this work for me? Obviously I will have to respect the Green ,
Blue , Red sequence.
BB

yes it will, but just remember which colours you plug into the blue green.

[derek500]

The Freesat Web site seems only to be offering "Jam tomorrow".
Where can I find hard schedules of imminent extensions to the freesat HD services?

Apart from C4 HD which might possibly added this year, there are no plans for further HD channels on Freesat in the near future.

Also.
Where is the best source of existing HD TV schedules?
BB

Digiguide

[Bellboy21]

derek500 said >Apart from C4 HD which might possibly added this year, there are no plans for further HD channels on Freesat in the near future.<

I only had Freesat installed today, but find the ITV HD info a bit sketchy. Freesat Web site shows a lot of programmes which I suspect are not broadcast on HD.

Have I been conned?

BB

[pjr918bmw]

derek500 said >Apart from C4 HD which might possibly added this year, there are no plans for further HD channels on Freesat in the near future.<

I only had Freesat installed today, but find the ITV HD info a bit sketchy. Freesat Web site shows a lot of programmes which I suspect are not broadcast on HD.

Have I been conned?

BB

Do you work for Sky by any chance? The tone of this and your previous message would suggest you do. That and the fact you just joined..... becomes a bit obvious after a while... almost boring.. :rolleyes:

How were you conned? Where did you get the information from that conned you? You installed a satellite sytem without checking what you were getting? I dont think so. But if you did, forgive me but more fool you.

[Bachstrad]

Do you work for Sky by any chance? The tone of this and your previous message would suggest you do. That and the fact you just joined..... becomes a bit obvious after a while... almost boring.. :rolleyes:

How were you conned? Where did you get the information from that conned you? You installed a satellite sytem without checking what you were getting? I dont think so. But if you did, forgive me but more fool you.

That's a bit harsh isn't it? :rolleyes:

Someone who's spent £150 on a non PVR Freesat STB is entitled to feel underwhelmed aren't they? I bet he's not alone either. Freesat is hardly over flowing with HD channels is it? You don't need to work for Sky to come to that conclusion IMHO.

ATB

Max

[Starburst]

How were you conned? Where did you get the information from that conned you? You installed a satellite sytem without checking what you were getting? I dont think so. But if you did, forgive me but more fool you.




Pretty much the same argument but with different phrasing I make when people complain about SKY+HD and it's programming and feeling conned:)

Both products pretty much delivered on what they promised (firmware issues and build quality not withstanding:) ) and in that regard the consumers were not conned however both products were perhaps promoted/marketed in a way that people expected more. However as you say if they did their homework (upscaled HD on SKY, part time ITVHD, no CH4HD on Freesat) then no surprises.

Of course the big hitter is that never buy into first gen or launch services, you will pay more for less and be a beta tester for good measure:)

[pjr918bmw]

That's a bit harsh isn't it? :rolleyes:

Someone who's spent £150 on a non PVR Freesat STB is entitled to feel underwhelmed aren't they? I bet he's not alone either. Freesat is hardly over flowing with HD channels is it? You don't need to work for Sky to come to that conclusion IMHO.

ATB

Max

Yes I agree it would be a bit harsh if I for one second believed it was a genuine punter. The wording was too carefully done - I know I have to write that sort of c**p sometimes!:god:

plus new user today and it just says troll to me!

However, I have occasionally been known to be wrong - not often mind..:rotfl:

[pjr918bmw]

Pretty much the same argument but with different phrasing I make when people complain about SKY+HD and it's programming and feeling conned:)

Both products pretty much delivered on what they promised (firmware issues and build quality not withstanding:) ) and in that regard the consumers were not conned however both products were perhaps promoted/marketed in a way that people expected more. However as you say if they did their homework (upscaled HD on SKY, part time ITVHD, no CH4HD on Freesat) then no surprises.

Of course the big hitter is that never buy into first gen or launch services, you will pay more for less and be a beta tester for good measure:)

Oh I agree! - says the guy with the Xe1 HD DVD player and about 50 discs!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: and the same guy who paid £1700 for a 37" 1360 LCD screen 6 years ago :rotfl::rotfl: and when very young bought a betamax VCR!! :)

[derek500]

Pretty much the same argument but with different phrasing I make when people complain about SKY+HD and it's programming and feeling conned:)


With all the posts about on here and DS about when the 30 new channels per month are coming to Freesat, it reminds me of the classic Mrs Richard's episode of Fawlty Towers. When they finally arrive there is going to be great disappointment. You only need to change a few words e.g Torquay to Freesat!!

Mrs Richards: And another thing. I expect to be able to see the sea.

Basil: [whispering to Manuel] Deaf, Mad and Blind. [To Mrs Richards] Yes, this is the view as far as I can remember... yes, yes it is.

Mrs Richards: When I pay for a view, I expect something more interesting than that.

Basil: But that is Torquay, madam.

Mrs Richards: Well it's not good enough.

Basil: Well may I ask what you expected to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House perhaps? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the plain...

Mrs Richards: [interrupting] Don't be silly. I expect to be able to see the sea.

Basil: You CAN see the sea! It's over there between the land and the sky!

Mrs Richards: I'd need a telescope to see that.

Basil: Well might I suggest you move to a hotel closer to the sea. Or preferably in it.

Mrs Richards: Now listen to me. I'm not satisified but I've decided to stay. HOWEVER, I shall expect a deduction.

Basil: Why, because Krakatoa isn't erupting at the moment?

Mrs Richards: Because the room is cold, the bath is too small, the view is invisible and the radio doesn't work.

Basil: No, the radio works. You don't.


Everyone seems to be expecting Living, Virgin 1, Bravo etc. to jump ship from the 'Hated, Murdoch, Sky' and become registered charities on Freesat.

What in fact they will get is God/sex/shopping.

[Bellboy21]

pjr918bmw

Can I just say that I find your deductions preposterous.
I am retired 10yrs, from the Health Service and only joined the Forum yesterday, as I only discovered that I required help on this subject yesterday.

Your help, I can do without, thank you.

I do admit to committing without full information.
I wanted Freesat, but went for the Humax HD Box thinking that I was buying into a progressive rollout of HD services. (Is that phrase a bit commercial for you?)
In mitigation I can only say that my local branch of Comet were clueless. _ Gave me Freesat and National Comet phone number. (Both clueless. Freesat offered to send me an “information pack” which turned out to be a sales leaflet.)
I also found the Freesat web site vague and misleading.

I am underwhelmed and perhaps the moral is that I should have waited until there were more established transmissions.

BB