Plasma's mounted to stud walls

extele · 01-02-2006, 10:30 PM

Hi all
First time posting and not sure if i'm doing this right. Here goes again.
I'm usually one of those 'lurkers' that read and never post.
BTW, thanks for the wealth of info so far guys!!!
The wife and I have decided at last to get a plasma. Fought against the idea for ages because we live in a flat with stud walls and Currys/Comet kept on saying they didn't fit to them.
Anyway found a company that fits to partition or stud walls so will be able to watch footie almost live.
But, its taken us so long to decide and now that we have, we have been looking on and off line for our dream plasma (can't even call it 'telly').
What we have been advised is that we now need HD, in order to get the best viewing. Is this right ? They are alot more expensive than the plasma's we were looking at, at the begining of last year. Will we really see the difference or is it just another con? Will it eventually look normal in just a few weeks for so much more money?
BTW, the guys that fitted to the stud wall. Direct Fitters 020 8429 1099.
directfitters@btconnect.com
Thanks in ad

nokiauk · 01-02-2006, 11:00 PM

i'm in the same situation - flat with stud walls. i'd be interested to know what they used to fit the bracket to the wall and at how many points.

i'm qujite happy to do the work myself if I know what to use.

Do you know of they actually fixed to the studs or just through the plasterboard?

thedude · 02-02-2006, 1:01 AM

hi i used to fit plasma's for a living i'd say as long as you got some good size wall screws, or wood screws if you have wood screws then you'll be ok. I'd recomend at least 8 points of contact in the top third of the screen.

If you want to get it more stable then go with some mdf behind it then go into the mdf after with the bracket just makes it a little stabler

Figment · 02-02-2006, 6:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedude

hi i used to fit plasma's for a living i'd say as long as you got some good size wall screws, or wood screws if you have wood screws then you'll be ok. I'd recomend at least 8 points of contact in the top third of the screen.

If you want to get it more stable then go with some mdf behind it then go into the mdf after with the bracket just makes it a little stabler

Good advice dude, that's the way I did mine. If you are building your own wall then a layer of 12 or better still 15 mm chipboard behind the plasterboard makes fixing of the screen and anything else to it a doddle and very secure.
Its also still easy to breakthrough for routing cables etc. Just make sure you plan ahead with where the cables will go so you can put appropriate holes in the horizontal studs to feed the cables through.

TEDDYBASS · 02-02-2006, 7:09 AM

May I suggest that a Ply backboard is far superior to either MDF or Chipboard as a fixing surface !!!!

Figment · 02-02-2006, 9:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEDDYBASS

May I suggest that a Ply backboard is far superior to either MDF or Chipboard as a fixing surface !!!!

Agreed Teddy but also a lot more expensive when you have a sizeable wall. A gain certainly but not huge especially as hopefully you will never see it again. IMHO.

R300SV · 02-02-2006, 12:36 PM

When I was thinking about fitting my 45 kilo pv500 to stud wall I toyed with many ideas but I eventually ripped off some plasterborad and then inserted 13mm thick wood panel between plasterboard and concrete block glued in position and re-plasterboarded after embedding all cables for surround system. using a VOGELS braket its attached with 3 fixings 100mm in length been up for 3 months now.

Just a thought though I had toyed with the idea of drilling several holes in the plasterboard and then injecting into the cavity a mastic grip fill that would go solid-ROCK-solid after a few days then fill holes and paint and hey presto you can fit the plasma, on a solid section of wall.........

Good Idea?

**Dave W** · 02-02-2006, 12:43 PM

Best way is as someone mentioned above, use a piece of 15mm ply/ mdf and fix that to the studs then fix the bracket to that.

If the studs are in the right place you could screw directly in to them with the plasma bracket.

Figment · 02-02-2006, 2:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daerve

Best way is as someone mentioned above, use a piece of 15mm ply/ mdf and fix that to the studs then fix the bracket to that.

If the studs are in the right place you could screw directly in to them with the plasma bracket.

Very true, but isnt it sods law that they never are?

scharf_10 · 02-02-2006, 2:25 PM

I just use normal rawlplugs, but before i put them into the wall, i put some "holds like a nail" or whatever that glue is called, and its perfectly fine

extele · 03-02-2006, 1:28 PM

Thanks guys,
still no advice on the HD???

Sluggster · 03-02-2006, 1:48 PM

I put mine on a stud wall.

I paid £10 for a detector from B&Q and found 2 of the beams in side - I think they normally run 16 or 20 inches apart. Hit a little pin nail in until I found either edge and then used 4 heavy duty wood screws to fix the bracket - I made sure they went in to the centre of the beam for maximum hold. I then bought two heavy duty plasterboard screws with the contraption that holds them in to plasterboard and put those on as well. It all seems as solid as a rock. My dad is a carpenter and suggested this method in the first place.

PercyP · 03-02-2006, 2:05 PM

Fortunately I was able to see the wooden batons behind my plaster wall (it was a false chimney breast). I used 4 massive coach screws which went through and out the other side of the wooden batons. I used a wall mount with holes 37cm apart.... exactly the same as the distance between the batons (otherwise I would have drilled new holes in the mounting plate).

Results are here ... Get your plasmas out for the lads - Pt II

Mark V · 03-02-2006, 2:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extele

Thanks guys,
still no advice on the HD???

OK - I have just invested in a standard definition plasma and fitted it this week. NO HD?? Shock, horror

Well no actually. I do have Sky TV but I have no intention of purchasing pay per view movies, paying more for HD programming or a HD receiver box. I shall be watching normal TV and DVD's for the next few years and will be quite happy. My set cost £999, the equivelant HD set is around £2,000

Not a difficult decision for me. I also got a free DVD recorder too.

alistairg · 03-02-2006, 3:35 PM

Extele,
HD depends on what you want to watch. I rarely watch DVDs and have no intention of paying Sky an extra £10 a month to watch a few HD channels. Thus I plumped for a 37PE50. The picture is excellent, looks pretty much the same as my parents' PV500 on normal TV. However if you watch a lot of DVDs/have an XBOX360/plan to get Sky HD or a PS3 then it may be worth getting a HD TV. I plan to build a home cinema in a couple of years and will get one then so no point in paying up at the moment. As Mark says no point in paying extra for HD if not using it. The price difference between SD and HD Panasonics is around £800.

As for mounting to the wall. Builders of my parents' new house put chipboard behind the plasterboard above the fireplace and I just screwed the bracket straight in with 8x no.12 3 inch woodscrews. If you are going into the studs large screws/small coach bolts will do fine. I actually was screwing into the studs as the builder had centred the studs above the fireplace and as mentioned brackets tend to be the same width as the distance between studs. I used the AV Sales bracket no problem at all. Spent longer at Homebase then B&Q finding the right screws than putting the TV on the wall. I have an enormous mirror above fireplace in my house, it is only held by 2 screws and heavy duty metal rawplugs. Plasmas are expensive but not actually that heavy and people worry too much about mounting them. - As an aside does anyone actually know of someone having one fall off the wall!

01-02-2006, 10:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
extele New Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3 My movie collection iTrader: (0) Thanks: Gave 0, Got 0	Plasma's mounted to stud walls Hi all First time posting and not sure if i'm doing this right. Here goes again. I'm usually one of those 'lurkers' that read and never post. BTW, thanks for the wealth of info so far guys!!! The wife and I have decided at last to get a plasma. Fought against the idea for ages because we live in a flat with stud walls and Currys/Comet kept on saying they didn't fit to them. Anyway found a company that fits to partition or stud walls so will be able to watch footie almost live. But, its taken us so long to decide and now that we have, we have been looking on and off line for our dream plasma (can't even call it 'telly'). What we have been advised is that we now need HD, in order to get the best viewing. Is this right ? They are alot more expensive than the plasma's we were looking at, at the begining of last year. Will we really see the difference or is it just another con? Will it eventually look normal in just a few weeks for so much more money? BTW, the guys that fitted to the stud wall. Direct Fitters 020 8429 1099. directfitters@btconnect.com Thanks in ad

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PercyP Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Woking Posts: 69 My movie collection iTrader: (0) Thanks: Gave 0, Got 2	Fortunately I was able to see the wooden batons behind my plaster wall (it was a false chimney breast). I used 4 massive coach screws which went through and out the other side of the wooden batons. I used a wall mount with holes 37cm apart.... exactly the same as the distance between the batons (otherwise I would have drilled new holes in the mounting plate). Results are here ... Get your plasmas out for the lads - Pt II __________________ Pioneer 436XDE, PS3, Virgin Media HD, Quad L-ites, Yamaha RX-V2500

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01-02-2006, 11:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
nokiauk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 639 My movie collection iTrader: (11) Thanks: Gave 36, Got 40	i'm in the same situation - flat with stud walls. i'd be interested to know what they used to fit the bracket to the wall and at how many points. i'm qujite happy to do the work myself if I know what to use. Do you know of they actually fixed to the studs or just through the plasterboard?

02-02-2006, 7:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
TEDDYBASS Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 188 My movie collection iTrader: (0) Thanks: Gave 1, Got 9	May I suggest that a Ply backboard is far superior to either MDF or Chipboard as a fixing surface !!!!

02-02-2006, 12:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
R300SV New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: wigan Posts: 8 My movie collection iTrader: (0) Thanks: Gave 0, Got 0	When I was thinking about fitting my 45 kilo pv500 to stud wall I toyed with many ideas but I eventually ripped off some plasterborad and then inserted 13mm thick wood panel between plasterboard and concrete block glued in position and re-plasterboarded after embedding all cables for surround system. using a VOGELS braket its attached with 3 fixings 100mm in length been up for 3 months now. Just a thought though I had toyed with the idea of drilling several holes in the plasterboard and then injecting into the cavity a mastic grip fill that would go solid-ROCK-solid after a few days then fill holes and paint and hey presto you can fit the plasma, on a solid section of wall......... Good Idea?

02-02-2006, 12:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dave W Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,084 My movie collection iTrader: (66) Thanks: Gave 690, Got 645	Best way is as someone mentioned above, use a piece of 15mm ply/ mdf and fix that to the studs then fix the bracket to that. If the studs are in the right place you could screw directly in to them with the plasma bracket.

03-02-2006, 1:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
extele New Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3 My movie collection iTrader: (0) Thanks: Gave 0, Got 0	Thanks guys, still no advice on the HD???

03-02-2006, 1:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sluggster Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 189 My movie collection iTrader: (0) Thanks: Gave 29, Got 3	I put mine on a stud wall. I paid £10 for a detector from B&Q and found 2 of the beams in side - I think they normally run 16 or 20 inches apart. Hit a little pin nail in until I found either edge and then used 4 heavy duty wood screws to fix the bracket - I made sure they went in to the centre of the beam for maximum hold. I then bought two heavy duty plasterboard screws with the contraption that holds them in to plasterboard and put those on as well. It all seems as solid as a rock. My dad is a carpenter and suggested this method in the first place.

03-02-2006, 3:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
alistairg Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 46 My movie collection iTrader: (0) Thanks: Gave 2, Got 2	Extele, HD depends on what you want to watch. I rarely watch DVDs and have no intention of paying Sky an extra £10 a month to watch a few HD channels. Thus I plumped for a 37PE50. The picture is excellent, looks pretty much the same as my parents' PV500 on normal TV. However if you watch a lot of DVDs/have an XBOX360/plan to get Sky HD or a PS3 then it may be worth getting a HD TV. I plan to build a home cinema in a couple of years and will get one then so no point in paying up at the moment. As Mark says no point in paying extra for HD if not using it. The price difference between SD and HD Panasonics is around £800. As for mounting to the wall. Builders of my parents' new house put chipboard behind the plasterboard above the fireplace and I just screwed the bracket straight in with 8x no.12 3 inch woodscrews. If you are going into the studs large screws/small coach bolts will do fine. I actually was screwing into the studs as the builder had centred the studs above the fireplace and as mentioned brackets tend to be the same width as the distance between studs. I used the AV Sales bracket no problem at all. Spent longer at Homebase then B&Q finding the right screws than putting the TV on the wall. I have an enormous mirror above fireplace in my house, it is only held by 2 screws and heavy duty metal rawplugs. Plasmas are expensive but not actually that heavy and people worry too much about mounting them. - As an aside does anyone actually know of someone having one fall off the wall!