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29-01-2002, 9:56 PM
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rgb scart v's component video
Could anyone please tell me if there is a noticable difference between using the two or is it really just not enough. I have a toshiba dvd and am looking to buy a 40 odd inch rptv. I like the the looks of the 42" toshiba and it has the component video connections but the hitachi 43" gets better reviews for all round generall viewing but doesn't have component video. As most of my watching will be on sky and not dvd, I'm just wondering if the hitachi is the better option or is the component video so much better that it sway me towards the toshiba.
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29-01-2002, 11:06 PM
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There will be no noticeable difference between RGB and component. Sometimes the tv will handle one better than the other.
The main benefit of component for the dvd is that it frees up the RGB scart for use by other items.
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29-01-2002, 11:38 PM
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The main benefit of component for the dvd is that it frees up the RGB scart for use by other items.
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If this was the case then surely they would just add another RGB scart socket, of course there is a difference although the difference is only marginal component wins.
Here is the order of quality from various connections:-
1. Component
2. RGB
3. S-video
4. Composite
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30-01-2002, 9:08 AM
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Fitting an extra RGB SCART can add considerable cost to the TV.
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30-01-2002, 10:11 AM
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I always thought S-Video gave a better picture than RGB?
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30-01-2002, 10:44 AM
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In theory there should be little difference between component and RGB. I fully understand DVD signals are recorded in native component and tv use RGB guns. In practice where a display device has both I have always prefered component. Make of that what you will, I am not alone is sharing these 'observations'. I now no longer use RGB at all.
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30-01-2002, 12:38 PM
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I strongly suspect that an adequately handled RGB signal will be undistinguishable from a component one on domestic kit.
If anything the RGB path in a non-digital processing set is potentially less mucked about with than a component path : the component to RGB remap carried out in the TV offers the potential for manufacturers to introduce non-standard colour behaviour ( red push etc) and SVM.
Additionally the remap from yuv space to RGB ( component to keep things simple) carried out digitally inside the source may well be less problematic compared to carrying it out in the TV : it will require at least one more remap in the case of component: this increases the risk of additional noise if its an analogue process or additional rounding errors and loss of precision if its carried out digitally inside the set.
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30-01-2002, 11:21 PM
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If this was the case then surely they would just add another RGB scart socket, of course there is a difference although the difference is only marginal component wins.
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Sorry, i disagree. The reasons are already quoted.
You would be hard pushed to see any difference between component and RGB and there could be a marginal difference favouring each one depending on the equipment.
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30-01-2002, 11:33 PM
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sorry to hijack the post, but sort of relevant. The comparision between the Hitachi 43" and Tohiba 42" was made. Irrelevant of everything else which displays the better picture for DVDs and TV?
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30-01-2002, 11:52 PM
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help!!!!!!
As i was getting further and further into this thread, I felt I was being hijacked and getting further from the question I posed. As much as I appreciated your comments about the differences, I felt you guys where taking over with your own views and not sticking to the question too much. Any longer and we would have been talking about the benefits of interstellar space travel versus the sinclair c5. Guys c'mon, help me out here. A simple enough question. Don't confuse me too much.LIVERPOOLFAN thanks, you'll never walk alone if you keep focused on the question. muchos gracias .
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31-01-2002, 12:02 AM
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Can I take it that because there is so much objective discussion going on here then the difference must be marginal and not worth losing sleep over. Thanks also doubledoom.Nice and simple and straight to the point.
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31-01-2002, 12:19 AM
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Personally i dont care about the connections, i just care about which TV gives the best pic quality with DVDs and TV.
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31-01-2002, 1:49 AM
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It seems a few members think they only put the component connection/feature on a screen or other device because it frees up the RGB socket and that it would be expensive to add another RGB, well surely it is equally expensive to put component connections on a screen so why bother if there is no difference?
So unless the cost of adding component connections is a lot cheaper than adding an extra RGB why bother with component at all, please explain.
All the reviews I have ever read state component is better even if this is only marginally better, better it is still better is it not?
I have only had the pleasure of seeing a few devices connected through component and these did display a better picture than when we tried them with RGB.
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31-01-2002, 12:53 PM
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I get a huge differance with component input compared to RGB Scart whilst playing DVD's
The scart produces a yellow tinge on the left hand side of anything with a defined edge on a bright background, component is perfect.
Sky is similar through the scart but nowhere near as bad as DVD, I just put up with it.
Short of adjusting the y/c delay deep in the internals of the TV service menu's (if the adjustment exists) I can find no solution.
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31-01-2002, 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by mandlebrot
All the reviews I have ever read state component is better even if this is only marginally better, better it is still better is it not?
I have only had the pleasure of seeing a few devices connected through component and these did display a better picture than when we tried them with RGB.
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I thought I said that! Component is better than RGB Scart, in theory it shouldn't be but in practice it is. The difference was enough for me to insist on a tv with component inputs. If you don't believe me connect a Toshiba 210 to a Toshiba and try it.
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