Which technology will be leading in 5 to 10 years?

[jaguar]

Which technology will be leading in 5 to 10 years?

[ash]

5 years LCD.
People in UK like small TV's like 26"-32" and so far CRT and LCD come in those sizes. But for people like me and you :smashin: , possibly SED, we who love 50"+ :cool:

[kenji-san]

yeah, SED is probably where it's gonna be at in approx 5 years, pricewise and qualitywise, also having ironed out any bugs/teething problems by then.

[Stuart Kirby]

Is SED technically superior to OLED?

[loadsofleads]

Is SED technically superior to OLED?

No, but it's going to be in our living rooms much sooner :thumbsup:

[la gran siete]

I go for Oleds . Cheaper to manufacture cheaper to run and you can roll them and take away when not in use.
time will tell

[gettingthefear]

I go for Oleds . Cheaper to manufacture cheaper to run and you can roll them and take away when not in use.
time will tell

it remains to be seen whether OLED can be economically and reliably made in the sizes needed for large-screen TVs. in the immediate future, i can see their use being limited to mobile phones etc.

[jaguar]

Funny how SED is most in favour. As far as I know SED has been struggling to get to market for many years. And do we really know whether the promises made by the manufacturer will come through?

They are not going to tell us if it suffers burn-in, short life or bad pixel problems at this moment or do they?

[pingu]

SED et al. will have to get into the 26" - 40" space pretty quickly to stand a chance IMO. For me, LCDs could out pace them in development terms.

The next evolution of LCDs will involve LED backlighting (like the brightside). It will start with a low-res matrix of LEDs providing the backlight but that resolution will increase. This will solve LCDs biggest drawbacks of black-level and contrast. Response times are already getting near to irrelevant speeds for 50-60Hz refresh and I'm sure they'll get even better.

I see it a bit like the hard disk / solid state race. By rights we should have ditched hard drives long ago and have solid state devices instead, but they keep managing to make HDDs bigger, better and cheaper.

[kballs]

SED is very promising and will probably take a big market share over LCD and plasma panel displays in a close-in 5-10 year window... longer term 10-20 year window I see advanced OLED formats (like PHOLED) taking over because they would be more flexible (literally) - impact resistant for phones and laptops but also could appear "printed" onto a roll-up home theater screen (like what you see now with LCD/DLP front projectors but without the hot light box humming in the back of the room).

[Evil Engineer]

I think over time the exact display technology will become less and less of an issue at it will all boil to down to "flat panels" as the multipilication of different display types, each with a three/four letter abbreviation, confuses consumers.

Even now a flat panel is called a "plasma" by a lot of people regardless of the actual display type, in the same way that all vacuum cleaners are "Hoovers".

Who's to say how in ten years time 2nd/3rd generation SED/OLED "new school" panels will compare to "old school" plasmas/LCDs that are another 5 or 6 generations ahead of where they are now.

Given the vast improvements in PQ shown on both Plamsas and LCDs over the last five years it's almost impossible to say what will give the best picture in ten years time.

At this years CES Pioneer showed a 1080p plasma and Sharp had a prototype LCD screen with a 1:1,000,000 contrast ratio so anything is possible.

At the end of the day consumer choices will be dictated by cost and quality considerations rather than the little initials used to denote the type of display.

In five to seven years time when I upgrade my current panel I will buy the best PQ with the price to match my pocket. I couldn't care less what type of dispaly it is!

[chambeaj]

SED TV: The next flat screen technology coming next year
http://www.nicetvthere.com/

Close Encounters of the Third Kind: SED
http://www.behardware.com/articles/593-1/close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-sed.html

What you get is the contrast, responsiveness, and image sharpness of conventional CRT but the size of a LCD or plasma. You should expect this new SED TVs in 2007.

[Evil Engineer]

You should expect this new SED TVs in 2007.

Are these SED displays that are going to be available in the next twelve months the same ones that were "going to be available within twelve months" after CES 2005?

Waiting for Vapourware is a mug's game and there is always something better six months arround the corner.

[hamster]

Too much money has been spent on LCD fab capacity to make them go away. It'll be LCD regardless of how good (or otherwise) the alternatives are.

The best format doesn't necessarily win. What matters it getting it to mas-market. Then the economies of scale kick in and R&D gets cheaper and more worthwhile.

If you want an outside bet then OLED, as that can be made in an LCD Fab, AND it offers really cool things like 5mm thick screens.

[amd4me]

Well, I think the low prices and reliability of a crt will make them keep on goin.
And they are getting slimmer smaller and lighter all the time.

[hamster]

I really, really doubt that. The problem is the glass tanks, which have to be rebuilt every 7 years or so. It costs 50M USD for a rebuild. Nobody makes money on CRTs these days: LG.Philips Displays (No1) went bust in Europe, N.America and Mexico last week. Sony is shutting it Pennsylvania and San Diego factories in May, Toshiba, Thomson and MEC have all close their operations.

If you live in China, they'll be around for a while. Otherwise not. And Dixons are reputedly stopping CRT sales from mid year.

And CRT's are not getting lighter. Real Flat was 20% heavier than Superflat.

[amd4me]

I really, really doubt that. The problem is the glass tanks, which have to be rebuilt every 7 years or so. It costs 50M USD for a rebuild. Nobody makes money on CRTs these days: LG.Philips Displays (No1) went bust in Europe, N.America and Mexico last week. Sony is shutting it Pennsylvania and San Diego factories in May, Toshiba, Thomson and MEC have all close their operations.

If you live in China, they'll be around for a while. Otherwise not. And Dixons are reputedly stopping CRT sales from mid year.

And CRT's are not getting lighter. Real Flat was 20% heavier than Superflat.
Oh well I stand corrected.
I really dont see CRT disappearing though.
Because 5 years comes up quite fast and do you think a 27" flat panel tv will be in the same price range as a 27" crt today?
I just dont see it.
But there is a distinct chance I could be wrong.

[cerebros]

I really dont see CRT disappearing though.

I'm sure Asda and the other supermarkets will be selling unknown brand CRT's for the next few years (after all, they're still selling 4:3 CRT TV's), but I doubt that the big name manufacturers will stick with it

[rommi]

Sony have already announced the end of CRT production by end of 2008.
CRT won't be around within 3 years from anyone.

Hitachi for example stopped CRT production in 2001, but inventory can still be found now. So although you might be able to buy CRT for a few years, none will be made soon.

SED is next to market, and if it fulfills its promise it will be fantastic.

[tgl]

Well, I think the low prices and reliability of a crt will make them keep on goin.
And they are getting slimmer smaller and lighter all the time.

Hmmm, crt has physical limits. I doubt very much they will get to plasma/LCD flatness.

[bluevortex]

I can't wait to see what SED looks like when they do eventually go on sale next year. On paper they sound too good. I remember when i first saw a samsung plasma 2-3 years ago. It looked awful compared to my panasonic plasma today. IMO plasma took several years to be worthy of my money and LCD even longer. If SED is going to be successful they are going to need some mind blowing screens from Launch and will need to look better & be more re-liable than the best that LCD, plasma has to offer at that time.

Blue

[NicolasB]

I read somewhere that Dixons will stop stocking CRT sets at the end of this year and switch entirely to flat-screen models. Of course that could be complete :censored:. :grin:

[SeanT]

Not CRT or plasma that much is for certain....

[Chippy99]

I remember when i first saw a samsung plasma 2-3 years ago. It looked awful compared to my panasonic plasma today.

Perhaps comparing a Panasonic 2 or 3 years ago to your Panasonic today would be a better comparison.

My Panasonic is now coming up to 5 1/2 years old. Its a TH-42PW3 - the first model that spawned their current range, 3000:1 contrast ratios etc.

And compared to my Dad's new Panasonic plasma - bought in February 06 - mine and his are effectively identical. In fact the picture on mine is better, because I have it set up better.

Quite remarkable considering how old my plasma is. But then again, it did cost me £7,000. Ouch.

In terms of which technoloy will win out? I voted LCD.

Why? Not because its best, but because its getting better at an incredible rate, and so many companies have invested in it so heavily. Its two main faults - colour fidelity and black levels - are effectively completely solved with LED matrix backlights. People have said that the colour with LED backlit LCDs is the finest available - irrespective of technology. And achievable black levels / contrast ratios are in the 100,000:1 or even 1,000,000:1 range.

SED may be "better", but it will inevitably have problems in its first few generations. Maybe the Toshiba "version 8" SED TV will be the one to beat, but when will that be? 2015? LCD has just got such a massive headstart.

Chip

[jaguar]

If you look at the current number of viewers on the Plasma and LCD forum here at AVfForums LCD seems to be winning it over Plasma.

[TarMoo]

After recent demos of the 100,000 contrast ration 55in SED screen it appears that SED may becoming to the mass market in 2008. See SED in 2008 (http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/10/03/55-inch-sed-hdtvs-on-the-way-in-08/)

LCD and Plasma prices are dropping by about 30% per year which is making life difficult for SED and appears to be the reason why the SED launch has been put back from 2007. Whether SED will get critical mass when a HD 50in screen can be bought for £1000-£1500 in 2008 will be the issue. I suspect SED will be a niche product at higher prices like the Pioneer 1080p Plasma is today.

[jaguar]

Currently I have just one issue with SED.

It still has to hit the market.

[Barrington]

Which technology will be leading in 5 to 10 years?

Probably:
1) Laser TV
2) Second place will probably be either;
A) LCOS or
A) SED

3) I require more information about LCOS and SED to decide, which would
probably be second, but it will probably be a combination of Laser TV and
LCOS and SED technology, unless 3D actually arrives (holograms).

4) BUT! There should be a TV virtually 3D available at the moment.

[Giffo]

SED TV: The next flat screen technology coming next year
http://www.nicetvthere.com/

Close Encounters of the Third Kind: SED
http://www.behardware.com/articles/593-1/close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-sed.html

What you get is the contrast, responsiveness, and image sharpness of conventional CRT but the size of a LCD or plasma. You should expect this new SED TVs in 2007.


Isn't SED a phosphor based technology? If so, surely it means the dreaded screen burn issue again and as more and more people are getting into gaming and connecting a pc to their tv this problem will only become more relevant. I'd like to see LCD win with as mentioned earlier by someone on here an LED back light.

[Reiner]

Isn't SED a phosphor based technology? If so, surely it means the dreaded screen burn issue again and as more and more people are getting into gaming and connecting a pc to their tv this problem will only become more relevant. I'd like to see LCD win with as mentioned earlier by someone on here an LED back light.
SED is phosphor based, but phosphor is also getting better, so I think screenburn will not be a big issue.



Well, I think the low prices and reliability of a crt will make them keep on goin.
And they are getting slimmer smaller and lighter all the time.

Hmmm, crt has physical limits. I doubt very much they will get to plasma/LCD flatness.
@amd4me: Smaller CRT TVs? Who wants that when the trend is towards BIG screens. And LCDs can do small very well (think handphones).

@both: I doubt that either argument is the reason (though of course you are correct that CRT has its limits in term of size, and that's where also weight comes into play) but what matters more is demand - and as said demand is now asking for big and flat hang-on-the-wall TVs.

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So far I have seen LCOS only on one RPTV and it didn't look that great, and further I doubt that Laser-TVs will be a big hit because they are currently also RPTVs, i.e. not as flat as plasma and LCD.

The best technology would probably be a true LED TV, not as backlight but instead each pixel is made of LEDs. Not sure they can make them small enough though or if it's feasible from a cost-perspective, but it would give an increadibly fast response time and there is no risk of burn in while the thing can be as flat as a LCD or Plasma (if not less).


So given what's available (soon) and looking the most promising for the next few years I voted for SED.

[LiFo]

Can i really dumb it down for a second, i have wondered this for a while but have been too embarrased to ask :suicide:

Why is it that LCD is the perfered technology over plasma?, when i say prefered i mean more in peoples houses, and as someone pointed out the LCD forum is always busier.

Because of all the examples i've seen (despite not knowing anything about the tech i see alot of tv's in operation in my job) the picture on plasma's is 10x better than that of an LCD.

In fact i often stand in front of about £6000 worth of LCD setup and wonder how anyone can watch it.

I need laymans terms :thumbsup:

[cerebros]

Can i really dumb it down for a second, i have wondered this for a while but have been too embarrased to ask :suicide:

Why is it that LCD is the perfered technology over plasma?, when i say prefered i mean more in peoples houses, and as someone pointed out the LCD forum is always busier.


Probably becuase LCD's are available in sizes the majority of households are able to comfortably accomodate - typically the 26" & 32" sizes (plus the smaller sizes for bedroom sets).

Unless you've got a big lounge to put a plasma in, the large screen sizes you get with plasma are just going to be uncomfortable to watch

[Lesmond]

How does Sonys FED technology fit into this? Is there a comparison between SED and FED?

Personally, I'm holding out for a SED set, circa 2008. My Loewe Vitros 32" CRT has a great picture for the size of the room its in - I'm in no hurry to part with it.

[Reiner]

Can i really dumb it down for a second, i have wondered this for a while but have been too embarrased to ask :suicide:

Why is it that LCD is the perfered technology over plasma?, when i say prefered i mean more in peoples houses, and as someone pointed out the LCD forum is always busier.

Because of all the examples i've seen (despite not knowing anything about the tech i see alot of tv's in operation in my job) the picture on plasma's is 10x better than that of an LCD.
I doubt it's 10x better. There are certain arguments for either technology and everyone must weigh those for him-/herself based on your own requirements. E.g. if you watch mostly TV and DVD a plasma may be better, if you play games consoles or use a PC often a LCD may be better; if you totally darken your room a plasma will have an advantage due to better black levels, if the room is lit a LCD will be brighter and usually show no reflections (as many plasmas do). And so on ...

Further you will find no plasma below 37", so it's only natural that this segment is dominated by LCDs due to lack of alternatives - at least where really flat TVs are concerned. Many people in the LCD forum are asking for such small screens, hence why there are many more posts as compared to the Plasma forum.

[Reiner]

How does Sonys FED technology fit into this? Is there a comparison between SED and FED?
More or less the same, with differences in the technical details:

Whereas FED uses a 'Spindt tip' semi-conductor or carbon nanotube emitter, with multiple redundant emitters per area of display[1], SED uses a single emitter based on palladium-oxide laid down by an inkjet or silk-screen process.[2]. SED is considered the variant of FED that is currently feasible to mass-produce.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_emission_display

[AML]

Considering how little has happened to SED this year, theres a good chance nothing ever will.

LCD is doing really well, and for most people its good enough, and now its geting cheaper and cheaper so in the end SED may never have a chance to make a start in the market.
Even if the quality ends up being better than LCD.

[Pondle]

Well, this is extremely disappointing news. Looks like we won't be seeing SED in the consumer market anytime soon.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20061225/125850/

[njp]

Well, this is extremely disappointing news. Looks like we won't be seeing SED in the consumer market anytime soon.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20061225/125850/

I can't say I'm surprised. But does anyone know what the hell Toshiba's president means by this?:

"LCD and plasma TVs have already become commodities. Generally speaking, most items disappear from the market 5 years after becoming a commodity. We want to raise SED as a 'non-commoditized product,' by protecting and keeping it from being commoditized"

I'm struggling to think of anything that "disappeared" five years after becoming a commodity. Presumably what he really he means is that Toshiba intend to protect their profit margins by ensuring SED remains a high-priced, high-end niche product with no cross-licensing deals or mass market push to drive prices down...

In which case we must all hope it falls flat on its face and is rapidly ousted by something else...

[Reiner]

Bad news. :(

Thanks for sharing though. :thumbsup:

[tigertimtim]

i think the bottom line is every couple of years the electronics industry need new items/gimmicks to sell to the people on masse, therefore when plasma and lcd sales have peaked , thats when i would expect a big commercial push on sed televisions , which will proberbly be a year or two after they first get released for industry/high end (people with deep pockets). :)

[trebor27]

I don't know whats gonna win out... I'm guessing at LCD, certainly in the next 5 years... 10 years is like the far and distant future when it comes to technology... Who can tell?

What i would liek to see is.... A TV Wall.... Basically a large wall that becomes your entire screen.... During the day it's a solid colour to match the other walls in your house... For normal V viewing you can have 32" of the wall become the TV, then for movies the entire wall could be your TV!

Any aspec ratio, any size!


How cool would that be?

Rob

[toycollector]

Well, I think the low prices and reliability of a crt will make them keep on goin.
And they are getting slimmer smaller and lighter all the time.
Larger CRT will be dead in a matter of months.I still think it has the best PQ.But looking at people shelling out £500 for a pic that is far worse, but will fit into their room proves the point.

[SeanT]

unless 3D actually arrives (holograms).

4) BUT! There should be a TV virtually 3D available at the moment.


Holographic screens are already available, albeit projection screens but it'd be easy enough to make a back projection version as the angle of incidence required lends itself to a mirror system anyway (and would be much easier to set up than a free hanging rear projection screen)

I know this because we have one ;)

I see trebor27 got the BTTF trilogy for christmas :rotfl:

[jaguar]

What i would liek to see is.... A TV Wall.... Basically a large wall that becomes your entire screen.... During the day it's a solid colour to match the other walls in your house... For normal V viewing you can have 32" of the wall become the TV, then for movies the entire wall could be your TV!

Any aspec ratio, any size!


How cool would that be?

Rob

Very!
Once read an article om TV wallpaper based on OLED. Should be possible with that technology.
They even spoke about having flexable seperate sections on the 'paper'. Eg a big screen in the middle and a ambient band of light close to the floor.

[jaguar]

Well on our way in 2007 still no sign of SED.
Is the 42% in this poll stil justifiable?

LCD seems to be cornering a larger and larger slice of the market.

[Loobster]

I think most of those votes (mine included) were posted before SED got delayed a couple of times, and more issues were reported (the litigation etc).

Looks like OLED will beat it to market now though.

[Stolly]

There is a large ecosystem growing around LCD. People are comfortable with it, it is becoming ubiquitous in the computer monitor market and it will continue to improve while becoming better value for money.

LCD / Plasma were a step change from CRT in terms of the size and form.

These other technologies just don't seem to be. They would have to be the same price or cheaper than LCD to gain acceptance.

I voted LCD. Its here to stay.

[Loobster]

LCD does seem to have a lot of momentum at present.

However, advances in picture quality are incredibly slow to appear. That's what makes me think that if someone can get the next big panel technology working properly, they will get a foothold in the market and then it will give LCD and PDP a run for their money.

[chamill]

SED would most likely be the leader if it ever gets released to the public.

Without SED in the running it will be LCD.

High definition will be in play so LCDs will be the more popular. LCDs have overtaken plasmas in the sharpness and overall look of their HD images. Black levels are now as good as plasma (look at the high rated Sony LCD vs Pioneer Plasma on hdtvreview). Whereas plasmas can not produce whites as well.

Personally I think Plasma is at the end of their lifetime. I can not see in a few years there being a need for plasma TVs as advances in LCD technology is so rapid. They have already overtaken plasma in many departments.

CRTs are still the daddy of them all but unfortunately are pretty much dead :(

Bring on the same old arguments about LCDs that are no longer true.!

[Phantoma]

I heard that SED is dead. Prices are falling too quickly for anyone to bring SED to market.

When LCD TV incorporates LED back lighting, which will significantly improve black levels, it will continue to dominate for quite a while.

Maybe in a few years time large screen OLED TVs will be available and affordable and OLED was claimed to be superior to SED.

[Manuel Bauwens]

Personally I think Plasma is at the end of their lifetime. I can not see in a few years there being a need for plasma TVs as advances in LCD technology is so rapid. They have already overtaken plasma in many departments.

CRTs are still the daddy of them all but unfortunately are pretty much dead :(

Bring on the same old arguments about LCDs that are no longer true.!

Hmmm, I don't think you ever saw an LCD next to a plasma...
I work in an "High End" audio/video thing, any recent LCD in any price cat. you want, goes down next to ANY of the cheapest recent Plasma's we sell(samsung)!
Basically LCD's sucks big time, the only time they play a lill decent is with a bluray or an other HD source connected to it, but still then they don't seem to get the colors all right if you have a reference to compare to!

Personally I think Plasma will still rock a while and then we might have SED, OLED and maybe maybe very improved LCD's :grin:

CRT rocks at SD, make SED HD and you'll have CRT like performance, with a flat screen!

But who knows the future? It all has to do with profit now adays, if it is sucks or rocks... Money rules!

[NicolasB]

CRT rocks at SD, make SED HD and you'll have CRT like performance, with a flat screen!You'll have CRT-like colour-accuracy and contrast ratios, but CRT's ability to make SD look good is entirely down to the fact that it doesn't use fixed pixels. SED does used fixed pixels (like every other display tech apart from CRT). So SED won't do anything for SD.

[Manuel Bauwens]

So SED won't do anything for SD.

I know :)

But we are talking about the new stuff, I really hope that in 5 to 10 years SD is gone from this earth :grin:

[Manuel Bauwens]

And btw actually a color CRT does have "fixed" pixels, but with the same "resolution" of the SD source.
That's also the reason why LCD(or other) screens with low resolution (480p 1:1) show SD kinda good as well ;)

[chamill]

Hmmm, I don't think you ever saw an LCD next to a plasma...
I work in an "High End" audio/video thing, any recent LCD in any price cat. you want, goes down next to ANY of the cheapest recent Plasma's we sell(samsung)!
Basically LCD's sucks big time, the only time they play a lill decent is with a bluray or an other HD source connected to it, but still then they don't seem to get the colors all right if you have a reference to compare to!

Personally I think Plasma will still rock a while and then we might have SED, OLED and maybe maybe very improved LCD's

CRT rocks at SD, make SED HD and you'll have CRT like performance, with a flat screen!

But who knows the future? It all has to do with profit now adays, if it is sucks or rocks... Money rules!


Definitely not. I have been to many stores to compare LCDs against Plasmas and its LCD every time. Just been into Richer sounds today and compared all the TVs. The Sharp was the most natural looking, most detailed and sharpest TV there as agreed by all 3 of us viewing (including the worker). Give me your reasons for the whole plasma is better idea! dont say black levels, motion handling, pixelation as these are overused by people who simple stand 2 feet in front of SD material etc.

[LV426]

Moderator's Comment: Could I ask, please, that we don't get bogged down, yet again, in the same tired old Plasma vs. LCD vs. CRT arguments. There are a lot of very strong and entrenched views on the subject, all of which have been aired in these forums many times over, and we don't really need them bringing up again; particularly as this is a OLED, SED & FLCD Televisions forum.

By all means, if you have something NEW to add, do so. Thanks

[joshua_bond]

I want to make a prediction that none of these technology(ies) will be leading. The reason being is demand versus money rule and; what I called real advancement vs re-invention.

Take the PC industry: the AMD/Intel issue. You cannot continue building faster and faster chips. Sooner or later it has to come to an end. And hence you get a re-invention: dual core, quad core or CPU/GPU integation. Remember the word co-processor in PC chips. These chips do not necessarily go any faster (on a single application basis) - but the industry re-invents the current technology and brings it to us.

Another example is the pharma industry. Ask youself how many unique antibiotics are out there....No wonder we have many microbes that are resistant to these drugs.

Similary for the TV industry you will find "blot-on" improvements (or minimal migration of 2 "technology") to bring you (or us the consumer) what is perceived as "the next best thing". But in real terms it is all the same - because we still question whether it is better.

Unlike B&W TV vs Colour TV....Do we still question this?

[1-Format]

I was reading about FED technology. There's no dead pixels, can look better than professional CRTs. Sony may start selling them in 2009. They can make it, but will they want to?

[pjclark1]

10 years is a long time, so I will predict pictures induced directly into your brain or optic nerves. No screens needed at all!

[hamster]

I was reading about FED technology. There's no dead pixels, can look better than professional CRTs. Sony may start selling them in 2009. They can make it, but will they want to?

FED addresses individual pixels, so individuals dead is a distinct possibility.

FED and its ilk have burned through billions of investors money in iFire, Candescent etc etc with nothing to show for it. It's a nasty, nasty technology to get to work.

I've seen demos of FEDs for 15 years now in research labs. It's one thing to make a 6" one that "almost" works, something entirely different to make something that is 42", under £500 and 98% of the time good as it rolls off the line.

Sony did indeed buy Candescent's IP, but demonstrated OLED at CES. That's the direction they are going. In comparison to FED, OLED's huge problems look trivial.

[NicolasB]

10 years is a long time, so I will predict pictures induced directly into your brain or optic nerves. No screens needed at all!That strikes me as unlikely; I can't see people volunteering for major neurosurgery just to watch TV. Well, not a lot of people. :) But a glasses-like device that projects an image through the pupil of the eye and directly onto the retina is certainly a possibility.

[TommyVecetti]

SED's dead baby, SED's dead.

[Loobster]

We'll see. As a consumer product, you may be correct - only time will tell.

I only hope that either SED or OLED comes to market then we can rise above the constraints of the current batch of panel technologies.

[G a f f e r]

5yrs? flat panel = LCD, projector = DLP, mobile use (eg pda/phone) = LCD

10yrs? flat panel = LCD, projector = DLP/LCoS, mobile use = OLED

5 years isn't enough time for anything to supercede LCD or DLP imo. Even though LCoS is emerging, DLP continues to improve so even 10 years from now, I can well see DLP still leading the field in projectors.

In 10yrs time, though, a lot can change. OLED (especially stacked OLED) promises to deliver fantsatic pictures. However, it's drawback is that it doesn't have a long lifetime (~10000 hrs only?)....but this would still be more than enough for mobile phones, most of which people change every year. Plus, the fact that it can be so thin, flexible and apparently shock proof would be ideally suited to portable use.

Even though SED is meant to be great, it was meant to be great in 2005. The fact that it's the "next gran turismo" of the display world has done it no favours. On top of this, it's based on phosphour coatings so susceptible to screen burn. I don't see it beating anyone in 10 years.
I also don't see FED (using carbon nanotubes) doing well seeing as the cheaper and simpler version (SED - based on similar technology) won't be leading.
LCD on the other hand, will be even cheaper to mass produce at this point (it's not just about "which is best on paper" but mainly about "what can be manufactured cheapest" a lot of the time imo). Plus, the newer LED backlights are meant to solve a lot of the issues with black levels and contrast (and improve colour reproduction and vibrancy too - if the newest laptops with them in are anything to go by......in fact, the "100% accurate colour repro." was one of the selling points for laptops I seem to recall).

So wrt flat panel displays, I'd stick with LCD as it will have improved with the newer LED backlights and will also be even cheaper to produce (both large in size and in numbers) reliably. I also see it continue to be used in desktops, whereas things like mobiles/iPods/laptops may be using OLED's. :)

[nickjkay]

OLED-these are going to be far cheaper to produced then anything else. Their flexibulity is a winner. They will start out expensive, but rember 1 blank CDR cost £150 in 1990.

[simonoaks]

SED's dead baby, SED's dead.

just came across this , very good lol

:rotfl:

[Dipsy55]

I agree with TommyVecetti SED is dead!

Stick with Pioneer Plasma. Ive seen it against a SED and OLED screen at a show and Plasma kills it all..better blacks, better colour.. Wait for Pioneer 9th Gen and 10th, they have called it the SED/OLED Killer!

[sweetierufus]

sorry if anyone has posted this before but read an intersting article on this on msn.

http://tech.uk.msn.com/features/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8206365

[NicolasB]

sorry if anyone has posted this before but read an intersting article on this on msn.

http://tech.uk.msn.com/features/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8206365

One glaring inaccuracy in that article. It describes a laser TV as:

A rear-projection TV that produces images by beaming lasers directly onto the inside of the screen.

It is nothing of the sort. :rolleyes: It's simply a DLP rear-projection TV which uses lasers rather than a UHP lamp and colour wheel to illuminate the DLP chip.

[1-Format]

sorry if anyone has posted this before but read an intersting article on this on msn.

http://tech.uk.msn.com/features/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8206365


Thank you, sweetie,

My prediction is; LCD for computer monitors (w/ LED backlight and 'local dimming' and advanced algorithms to achieve 'high dynamic range'- HDR)

BUT for tv watching it may be FED or SED, especially 10 years from now when nanotechnology is used more.

I think OLED will NOT make it, b/c of high power consumption and small sizes .

[$$Buck-Naked$$]

I agree with TommyVecetti SED is dead!

Stick with Pioneer Plasma. Ive seen it against a SED and OLED screen at a show and Plasma kills it all..better blacks, better colour.. Wait for Pioneer 9th Gen and 10th, they have called it the SED/OLED Killer!

LMFAO. the 11 inch Sony OLED kills everything out there and this is only the first OLED.
The Sony OLED has 1.000.0000:1 native contrast which is much better than any Plasma will ever have and also OLED does true blacks of 0cd/m2 whereas the best Plasma's now on the market (LX508/608) do 0,03cd/m2.
OLED has higher contrast ratio's, faster response times, true blacks, thinner panels, lower powerconsumption and will be cheaper to mass produce than anything in the near future.
OLED is the future, Plasma is a dead technology it's already old today, LCD's these days like the Samsung A6 and Sony W4000 have the same blacks as the best Plasma's which was the last thing going for Plasma.