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BadAss
01-01-2002, 9:43 PM
Anybody got any titles that use the higher audio bit rate? If so how do they sound compared to a normal 44.1k track?

Bone Daddy
02-01-2002, 6:08 AM
Hi Badass I have the `Dracula` superbit,and though I haven`t sat down all the way through the film (loads of other discs & christmas)I did a brief comparison and their was a marked diference between the normal disc and the `bit title,the audio had effects that just don`t exist on the normal disc - one being at the start of the film when we get to see his bride `Elizabeta` recieve the letter from the vengfull turks and she plummets out of the window,on the `bit title you get the roar of the river in 5.1,and on the normal disc - nothing.Now things are back to normal I will go through the disc and have a proper look,but even with a small glimse of this disc I would recomend it over the normal any day.I don`t know where the audio was mastered off,I remember the 3 disc `Criterion` laser I used to have of this title had far superior audio to the normal with them using `Coppalas master print and redoing the print and the audio to his vision,by the way that disc used to have the best commentary I have ever heard on laser or dvd bar none,shame it`s not been used anywhere :( Anyhow will try and post my findings later on today.

BadAss
02-01-2002, 1:28 PM
I so happen to have this disk as well. Interesting to hear actual effects can be head as not before. But what I was thinking of was if cd's have a sample rate of 44.1k and a standard DD track is 48k and HDCD is 96k where does DTS at its high sample rate come?

02-01-2002, 7:06 PM
Originally posted by BadAss
I so happen to have this disk as well. Interesting to hear actual effects can be head as not before. But what I was thinking of was if cd's have a sample rate of 44.1k and a standard DD track is 48k and HDCD is 96k where does DTS at its high sample rate come?

DTS comes in 2 forms on DVD

half bitrate and full bitrate.

Full bitrate is 1509 kbps
Half bitrate is 768 kbps

The only difference between the 2 is that full bitrate DTS is less compressed and so takes up twice the disc space. Most DTS discs now released are half bitrate.

BTW: The dvd which is said to have the best DTS soundtrack is Saving Private Ryan, it's half bit rate.

Here is a list of DTS discs (with bitrate)http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bwescombe/dts_dvd.htm

BadAss
02-01-2002, 8:22 PM
CW2000,
Cheers, I so happen to have none of them. :( How can you tell which bitrate a DVD has before and after youve bought it. I take it a high bit rate track will still show as 48k on my processor.

03-01-2002, 5:55 PM
Originally posted by BadAss
CW2000,
Cheers, I so happen to have none of them. :( How can you tell which bitrate a DVD has before and after youve bought it. I take it a high bit rate track will still show as 48k on my processor.

Some Sony players have a bitrate viewer which displays audio bitrate.

Processors will see half-bitrate and full-bit rate DTS as the same thing.

Adam Barratt
04-01-2002, 8:38 AM
On DVD both 754 and 1509kbps DTS operate at 48kHz, although on CD and LaserDisc the 1235kbps variant ran at 44.1kHz. DTS are currently working on a 24bit 96kHz system, but I wouldn't hold my breath for any real studio support (I won't bore you with why this system is so completely pointless).

HDCD isn't a 96kHz system; on CD it's 44.1kHz.

Adam