nokia n91

[shoalin kid]

anyone know when this phone is out ,cos its a chioce between this or a sony w800

[Ludicrous69]

Carphone Warehouse told me the launch has been put back until Spring, It was supposed to be out now but none of the UK networks have approved it for use on their networks yet

Carphone Warehouse (the salesman at least) told me CNN have been advertising it for some time now so it is on sale is some parts of the world at least!

I'm going to Egypt tomorrow so I'm going to see if I can pick one up there

[asherpat]

the N91 is IMO plug ugly. seems that the designers were given a brief to draw something that looks "special" and got a Bangle on their hands...

look ant www.theregister.co.uk for more info on this phone, but apprently there is another Nokia smaller and very cute, akbeit only 2GB max, due soon.

Originally Posted by asherpat

the N91 is IMO plug ugly. seems that the designers were given a brief to draw something that looks "special" and got a Bangle on their hands...

look ant www.theregister.co.uk for more info on this phone, but apprently there is another Nokia smaller and very cute, akbeit only 2GB max, due soon.

I agree with the plug ugly quote. It doesn't look good in any way.

There is now the 3250 announced, but that isn't much better either - a strange/stupid swivelling keyboard (numerics one side, music controls on the other). And it uses transflash, currently limited to 512meg. And heres me able to put 2gig MMCs into my SX1.

[UKbondraider]

The N91 is probably the nicest looking phone due out.

It is bizarre how tastes differ but it does make me cringe how people buy the current ugly phones on the market.

Just for the record the best looking phone available at present is the Moto Razor V3. However due to the fact that every man and his dog has one its appeal has been someone diminished. However if you look at only the fundamentals of styling it is still the best looking phone on the market at the moment.

The next best looking phone is the Nokia 8800. If you dont have the money for the 8800 then you should have the Razor V3 in theory as it doesnt make sense to own the other other phones out there. Having said this I can understand if you want to be different but had the V3 remained somewhat exclusive it would be the phone to own.

Overall the best looking phone ever made was the Nokia 8810 followed by the 8850.

Dont understand how people can buy those samsung, siemens etc rubbish.

Anyway back to the point. The N91 is the phone I am waiting for to buy alongside my 8800 and V3 and it just amazes me to hear about the above comments. All Nokia's of late since the 8810 some 7 yrs-ish ago have been rubbish (I am even disappointed with the styling of the 8800). The N91 is the only Nokia with some prospect.

[shoalin kid]

i have a v3 now and while it may look good its crap,styling is important but the rest has to up to scratch as well,if the n91 has been put back til spring i may get a w800

[UKbondraider]

Why is the V3 crap?

What other function apart from making calls does anyone need with a mobile?

Definitely not for photos or surfing the net surely.

As for the W800 I would rather have the N91 even if I had to wait 10yrs. I would even rather have the common V3 over that piece of rubbish. Why would anyone even consider it in the same league as the N91.

What, compare the W800 to the N91?

Well, for one, the W800 has a better camera. Second, much better battery life. And finally, more flexible storage (ie. you can have a few different MS Duo cards, therefore giving more storage).

As for beauty, thats totally in the eye of the beholder

I agree with the V3 being one of the best looking phones of the moment; a close second now has to be either the 8800 or the SLVR/L7 - the SLVR takes the basic design of the V3, puts it into a candy bar, and its a darned good price - Voda list it as £160 on payg. Remember it adds some handy functions over the V3 - video recording, expandable memory, full address book.

[emporer]

i had the same predicament and went for the w800 and it really is the best phone ive ever had, and ive had alot. its styling is second to none and i agree that the n91 looks awfull. i had a few worries because i'm normally a nokia man as they are easier for me to text with, but this is just as simple.

as for the v3, ive had one and they are pure crap, the camera isnt worth taking pics with and although its very thin its far too wide for my liking and when opened up makes one big phone, and its memory capacity is laughable

Originally Posted by emporer

as for the v3, ive had one and they are pure crap, the camera isnt worth taking pics with and although its very thin its far too wide for my liking and when opened up makes one big phone, and its memory capacity is laughable

Pure crap? Bit strong, eh? Maybe just not the right phone for you. Its probably the best looking phone on the market (vying with the 8800 and L7 now). You knew the camera was a standard VGA unit when you bought it, and the memory was always advertised as 5meg. Its primarily a stylish phone, does the basics well.

[emporer]

Originally Posted by clonmult

Pure crap? Bit strong, eh? Maybe just not the right phone for you. Its probably the best looking phone on the market (vying with the 8800 and L7 now). You knew the camera was a standard VGA unit when you bought it, and the memory was always advertised as 5meg. Its primarily a stylish phone, does the basics well.

it is just an awfull phone that Motorola have tried to make out that its up there with the rest, but its way off the mark. i agree with you that it's styling is primary but even then its still far too wide, if it was thinner by around 10mm then it would be a very stylish phone. i couldnt use the keypad at all as its just flat and has no kind of feel to it. when you consider what was available when it was launched it does fair very badly against them - ie d500

Originally Posted by emporer

it is just an awfull phone that Motorola have tried to make out that its up there with the rest, but its way off the mark. i agree with you that it's styling is primary but even then its still far too wide, if it was thinner by around 10mm then it would be a very stylish phone. i couldnt use the keypad at all as its just flat and has no kind of feel to it. when you consider what was available when it was launched it does fair very badly against them - ie d500

The price premium was caused by the styling, NOT the spec, so comparing to a D500 is unfair, as they aren't in the same market segment.

Thing is, that it isn't awful as a phone, you are comparing it to something like the D500 which is more of a multimedia device than phone.

[emporer]

Originally Posted by clonmult

The price premium was caused by the styling, NOT the spec, so comparing to a D500 is unfair, as they aren't in the same market segment.

Thing is, that it isn't awful as a phone, you are comparing it to something like the D500 which is more of a multimedia device than phone.

i suppose you have a fair point, but tbh the d500 is superb in its styling and the v3 isn't overly stylish now is it? the same thing is happening with the nokia 8800 now, a crap phone in a shiny case that is way too overpriced. i have a friend who until a couple of weeks ago was a nokia rep and he told me the 8800 was the biggest mistake they made, nokia in general are losing the way. we have the technology now to have features in stylish phones ie w800, d5/600 etc, but for some reason when some manufacturers choose to make something a bit quirky in the styling dept all phone features just go out the window and you end up with an expensive shiny case.

[chrislad]

The V3 is a nasty phone. Looks wise, the shell is nice. Then you open it up and see the buttons. For the price, specs are horrible. The 8800 is nice looking, but I prefer to have specs over style in my phones, especially since I got a 750i (when it arrives) over a choice of both of them.

Originally Posted by emporer

i suppose you have a fair point, but tbh the d500 is superb in its styling and the v3 isn't overly stylish now is it? the same thing is happening with the nokia 8800 now, a crap phone in a shiny case that is way too overpriced. i have a friend who until a couple of weeks ago was a nokia rep and he told me the 8800 was the biggest mistake they made, nokia in general are losing the way. we have the technology now to have features in stylish phones ie w800, d5/600 etc, but for some reason when some manufacturers choose to make something a bit quirky in the styling dept all phone features just go out the window and you end up with an expensive shiny case.

I do like the D500; the D600 almost improves on it (apart from not having a lens cover, rrrrr).

The 8800; interesting. Remember the 8910/i? Didn't drop in value, it was a premium product that kepts its price. Moto have dropped the price of the V3, which is a shame in some ways. The 8800 is a definite mixed bag. Its pretty much a 6230i with a cut back camera and more internal memory. It pushes the V3 concept too far; especially awkward with the Moto L7 doing something very similar.

But Nokia loosing their way? I do kinda agree. They definitely have the ability to push things, but don't. They very, very, slowly evolve the product lines; almost like they are trying to control the market, but the others (Samsung, Moto, SE) are really catching up with design and spec.