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28-09-2005, 4:49 PM
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BiWire or Single wire
I recently purchased a Musical Fidelity X-Ray CD player together with its companion Amp the X-150 also Monitor Audio SR6 Speakers and bi-wired them with QED Silver Anniversary Bi- wire. at a cost of £230. My local HiFi dealer now tells me that best results are obtained using Single Wiring. Have I wasted my money?.- Opinions needed please
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28-09-2005, 5:54 PM
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Do you like what you hear? If so you haven't wasted your money.
I think most speaker cable is a waste of money so if you've paid more than £1.50 per metre for your cable then I believe you've paid too much. But you live and learn.
However, now you've discovered this forum you can hopefully save yourself some money in the future.
As for Bi Wire/Single wire the argument will go on forever (probably) It's cheaper to use a single run but if you have bi wire then it certainly won't hurt anything. I doubt your dealer will be able to tell the difference in a blind test....
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28-09-2005, 6:02 PM
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Even if bi-wiring works for you, the difference is likely to be subtle. Putting a lot of effort into ensuring the speakers interact with the room perfectly will yield far bigger improvements
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28-09-2005, 9:56 PM
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Originally Posted by falconer1
My local HiFi dealer now tells me that best results are obtained using Single Wiring. Have I wasted my money?.- Opinions needed please
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I would assume that your systen sounds very very enjoyable - have you wasted money ? yes. But as the wise chaps above are giving you the same type of "life experience" that you are now enjoying. Good read here :
Biwiring an Arcam FMJ A22 - Is it worth it?
And always single wire and cable jump.
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29-09-2005, 10:27 AM
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Hi Falconer,
Don't think too much about money wasted. In this hobby it happens to all of us, and we learn from the experience. Hopefully it will be money saved when upgrading in future, when you begin to take wild unsubstantiated claims with a large pinch of salt. I have wasted substantial amounts in the past, and its painful to think about. The trick is not to think about it.
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29-09-2005, 10:54 AM
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Hi Falconer,
Don't think too much about money wasted. In this hobby it happens to all of us, and we learn from the experience.
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That's what Ebay is for! There's always some unsuspecting soul who's as gullable as we used to be. Does that make us bad people.....??
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29-09-2005, 2:27 PM
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To Bi-wire or not
Very many thanks for the interesting replies.
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29-09-2005, 2:34 PM
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Totally agree with Londondecca's post above. Just towing the speakers to an optimal angle will have more effect and an even greater effect by optimising speaker position in relation to other objects i.e. back wall, chairs/sofa and especiall corners. Many times, it is the room it's self that is the limiting factor in a decent system. Don't forget to optimise your listening position.
Bi amping can make a difference BTW so if you are ever to consider it, the extra cable will come in handy.
Apologies for the  you probably already know it
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29-09-2005, 7:21 PM
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I think buy-wiring is great.
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29-09-2005, 7:55 PM
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I think buy-wiring is great.
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29-09-2005, 9:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve.EX
1.I think buy-wiring is great.
2. I really like marmite.
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2 signs of mental illness (IMHO of course Steve)
FWIW your in good company Steve, Keith Howard at HFN thinks so too, so he set about proving there was a measurable difference between the 2, his measurements showed him that there were not, so he recounted 20 years of experience, ie in sighted subjective listening and disregarded the identical measurements to go with his "experience".
Ive heard he likes marmit too.
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29-09-2005, 9:22 PM
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I was being sarcastic: "buy"-wiring anyone?
Doh!
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29-09-2005, 9:25 PM
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Do you get it?
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29-09-2005, 9:30 PM
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Marmite no, I never Bi the stuff.
Apologies, took me a snother read to see what you meant.
Doh. I hereby remove the tag/status of potential "spotter of fairies at the bottom of the garden" I falsely attributed to you earlier dude, due to my inability to read a 6 word sentence.
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29-09-2005, 9:32 PM
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Buyfocals perhaps?
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