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Old 12-08-2005, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Denon DVD-A1XV DVI-D output - anyone tried it?

Folks, if you use a normal VGA cable plugged into the the DVI-D output (using a DVI-D to VGA adapter) of the Denon DVD-A1XV and the other end plugged into a normal computer monitor, does it work?
Is it possible to plug the Denon DVD-A1XV directly into the RGBHV inputs of a CRT projector?
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Old 12-08-2005, 1:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, a DVI-D port should not be supporting analog RGB output (hence the -D). You'd need either a DVI-A or DVI-I port, which supply an analog signal or both, respectively.

Assuming you do get an analog RGB signal, you should be able to display it on any device that support both the resolution supplied and the refresh rate. This can be quite problematic for 50 Hz playback, but 60 Hz usually is acceptable for LCD screens.

AFAIK the A1XV does not supply the HV signals on the output side but merely provides BNC and RCA component signal output. You may be able to use that, though, if your CRT projector supports synchronisation that way.
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I tried it with the Denon A11 and had no joy, The dvi-d port still needs to do the HDCP handshake, I did try some of my home copies and again no joy.
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If I understand the blurb right, then the only direct connection would be via component - but this is only 480p/576p which is no good since I need 720p.
So the internal video processing of this unit is no use at all for CRT projector owners. Bummer.
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So the internal video processing of this unit is no use at all for CRT projector owners. Bummer.
Well it might be if you invested in one of those "naughty boxes"...

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All these new DVD players use HDCP digital conections. Wether its DVi-D or HDMI.

I dont know of any that use analog outputs that offer higher than 525p,
If you want 720p or 1080i u would need to go digital.
Thats not to say that a player offering 720p/1080i through component doesnt exist!
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as dutch mentioned yo can get a little gadget that will strip away the HDCP protection thus allowing you to use a HDCP signal on a none HDCP device, its not cheap though
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Old 14-08-2005, 7:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Can you post more details, please? Links to where you can buy them etc?
Remembering that a top DVD player like this into a Barco projector should not have any dodgy kit in the signal path.
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Well this is the only one I know about:

http://www.digitalconnection.com/pro...ideo/dcda1.asp

I used to have their DVI DA which worked by stripping off the HDCP encryption from the incomming source and outputting two 'clean' signals...I would think that this works in a similar manor but outputs over VGA...not cheap though.

Can be bought here but read the small print as they are actually based in the States.

http://www.avlink.co.uk/detail.php?m_id=127

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Thanks. Ok, so the cable needed is DVI-D to DVI-D ?
The Dtrovision gadget has one type of connection while the Denon has another. The Dtrovision connector is the image on the left.
This is NOT user friendly.
[Edit - I suppose I could use an HDMI (out of the Denon) to DVI-D (in of the Dtrovision) cable?]
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Well the Denon has a Dual Link DVI-D connector whereas the Dtrovision box has a Dual Link DVI-I connector which has the additional pins for an analog RGB connection.



You should be fine with a standard DVI-D to DVI-D cable.

As a side note I found that the output from my 3910 via HDMI supported blacker-than-black whereas the DVI output didn't - now this may just have been a compatability issue between it and my S3, never tried DVI on the S4, and not a general thing and may not even affect your super-duper player anyway...just thought I'd mention it.

Using a HDMI to DVI-D lead would also work just fine I would have thought.

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what is you aim here and I might be able to answer a bit better.

There are many other alternative boxes out there.
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what is you aim here and I might be able to answer a bit better.

There are many other alternative boxes out there.
To get the 720p output of the Denon DVD player into the RGBHV of my Barco 1209.
At the moment the most likely scenatio is to take the DVI-D output of the player and convert that into a VGA output using the gadget described above.
This would be convenient as I currently have a VGA to RGBHV cable buried under the floor and replacing that cable would be somewhat of a nightmare involving lifting up a carpet (and therefore everything on top of it) in more than one place.
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Hi Stuart,

I think the DC-DA1 converter should do the job you want. Try here for a cheaper price - glad I bought mine in March when they were only $259!

http://www.lenexpo-electronics.com/d...=MSRP%20349.00

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