£270 hi-def receiver

[bayards]

The Inverto (Inverto ) IDL 5000HD receiver from £269.99 from Unbeatable .

Review in wotsat mag (June) - has IRDETO built in for HD1 service but only MPEG2. Does standard def too and no DVI/HDMI - but at the price...

H

[Starburst]

Considering the major EU broadcasters seem to be adopting a mpeg4 varianty it is perhaps not as future proof as you would want it even for that price not forgetting you need the smartcard as well to make use of HD1.

If you have no interest in SKY's HD service then perhaps waiting a while for domestic mpeg4 FTA/CAM enabled HD STB's to enter the market may be more sensible or going for a PC solution

[Hellicopter]

It will be interesting to see whether it decodes 4.2.2 like the Qualitv box
If so it is a bargain for feedhunters.

Alan

[xenole]

How does mpeg4 fit in with things anyway? i.e. would say the PV500 have problems with it?

[Starburst]

Originally Posted by xenole

How does mpeg4 fit in with things anyway? i.e. would say the PV500 have problems with it?

The codec used by both HD broadcasters and pre-recorded media is not an issue, the appropriate STB or player will decode this and then feed the video data to your chosen display via component or DVI/HDMI depending upons the hardwares spec.

The problem with buying a dedicated mpegII STB is that it is unlikely to have the ability to be upgraded to handle mpeg4 data which requires far more processing power to decode and hence for best results a dedicated hardware solution is preferred. A mpeg4 STB will of course decode a mpegII datastream which is what SKY are banking on so their future customers have a single STB which allows viewing of all the SKY SD and HD output.

Since SKY, Premiere and TPS along with EURO1080 are launching mpeg4 based HD content buying into a mpegII only solution may not be the best long term decision but that's not to say at the right price you will not get some use out of it

[Chris Muriel]

The workaround for a standard STB with CI CAM would be one of these :
http://www.neotion.com/produits/neot...eg-4-cards.htm

I saw one working at NAB in April.

Chris Muriel, Manchester.

[Starburst]

I should never underestimate the ingenuity of third party developers

[RecordablDVDfan]

I am about to buy a sat receiver for feeds etc. So this will decode the Astra HD. HD Forum and Pro 7 HD channels ? Is it likerly to be ok for any Sky HD FTA offerings ?

How many feeds etc use 4.2.2 ? What is this mode anyway ?

[Chris Muriel]

EBU feeds on 7 degrees East plus perhaps 10-15% of other feeds use 4:2:2.
4:2:2 contains more colour (chroma) information than standard (so called) 4:2:0 - too much for most MPEG2 decoders to handle.

Chris Muriel, Manchester

[bayards]

Originally Posted by Chris Muriel

The workaround for a standard STB with CI CAM would be one of these :
http://www.neotion.com/produits/neot...eg-4-cards.htm

Chris - I luv ya! Woo hoo! May buy that cheapie yet (if I get my new job this week!).

H

[Stephen Neal]

How does that Neotion card output MPEG4 in HD? It didn't seem to have any video output connectors.

Could it be that it is designed for Standard Def MPEG4, and internally transcodes to MPEG2 SD - which is then decoded by the STB as normal?

Of course it might also transcode HD MPEG4 to HD MPEG2 I guess?

[SamRadford]

Does it have Dolby Digital output? (Optical?)
Or maybe the question doesn't make sense?

I just wondered what audio standard is supported.

[renibacterium]

Originally Posted by Hellicopter

It will be interesting to see whether it decodes 4.2.2 like the Qualitv box
If so it is a bargain for feedhunters.

Alan

No it does not do SD 4.2.2

Renibacterium

[jibberjabber]

Looky at this HDD as well.

The Tawanese Zinwell will come within some months with new HD recipient on the market which is arranged for reception of high gedefineerde (HD) television programmes which use of the uitzendprotocol MPEG4 H.264/DVB-S2. this new recipient, with the name ZDX-640, both for satellite, terrestoriale and cable market available will come and can be provided with the built in coderingsystemen Irdeto, Nagravision or Conax CAS 7. moreover one has beside these built in CAS also the possibility for reception by means of CI closed. Remarkably to this ZDX-640 concept is that the HD recipient had HDD with large of 160 Gb. Moreover there also ethernetaansluiting are present beside RS232 and USB termination. It is still unclear if these ethernet connection are present connection in huiselijk network possible make or to be able be in contact with with provider by means of an intranet work. Zinwell deliver ZDX-640 the custum made to betaaltelevisieproviders. By means of the wishes of these provider specifications can be adapted. Zinwell also deliver, like already its products, these as "plakmerk" recipients as a result of which it is very well possible that this recipient also among other things names on the market will come. This way MPEG2 the HD satellite recipient of Zinwell in the Netherlands were also available under the name Quali TV 1080th just like its MPEG2 HD predecessor use these ZDX-640 of Broadcom chipset (broadcom 7038 and 7411) as a result of which it also with these new HD be able receive programmes/feeds recipient possible 4:2:2 has been transmitted. Moreover it is possible for for future services the recipient at upgraden with the broadcom 7401 chip. Zinwell let its satellite recipients make moreover already in their own factory which one in China has let build. In this factory satellite recipients also a lot of are made for other marks. Below the most important specifications of the Zinwell ZDX-640: Possibilities for decodering of QPSK, 8PSK by means of QAM & COFDM possibly prerecording possibilities by optional HDD with large of 160 Gb 2 Common interface closed support for SDTV and HDTV picture in picture (Picture in Picture) user-friendly OSD and Operation menu support for picture formats 1080i, 720p, 576p, 576i favourites sender lists presently electronic programme guide (EPG) present DiSEqC 1.0 & 1.2


Sorry for the bad translation.

[sprattgraham]

Nice box, I hope the software works, the software on the old STB has lots of bugs

Some details below.

http://www.zintech.com.tw/Product/ST..._HD_CA_CI.html
http://www.zintech.com.tw/PDF_File/S...A%20-%20CI.pdf