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Old 01-06-2005, 3:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Panasonic E95 Guru Needed - AV1 & AV2

Hello

I have an E95 DVD recorder connected as follows:

Sky+ >> E95 >> TV

My question and confusion is regards to the E95’s AV1 and AV2 set up options. In the operating instructions it states the following options:

AV1 Output
• Select “RGB (without component)” for RGB output
• Select “Video (with component)” or “S-Video (with component)” for component output

Which AV1 output option should I use for the best output quality? It’s very confusing how they are referring to RGB and component in the way they are.


AV2 Input
• Video
• S-Video
• RGB (not NTSC)

AV2 Connection
• Decoder – When a decoder is connected
• Normal – When the VCR or a satellite receiver is connected

What are the best suggested settings for AV2? Isn’t a satellite receiver and decoder the same thing, very confusing?


Any help would be most grateful.


Many thanks;

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Old 01-06-2005, 3:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It is confusing isn't it?

If your TV has component input then select either option with component output (ie not RGB) for input into the TV, otherwise use RGB.

For AV2 use the RGB option for input and select AV2 connection as 'Normal'.

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Old 01-06-2005, 6:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks couchspud

My TV is a Sony KV36HQ100 that does not have component connection inputs, only RGB scarts.

AV1 is now set to “RGB (without component)” for RGB output
AV2 is now set to RGB (not NTSC) & Normal – When the VCR or a satellite receiver is connected

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AV1 is now set to “RGB (without component)” for RGB output
AV2 is now set to RGB (not NTSC) & Normal – When the VCR or a satellite receiver is connected
This is exactly how they should be set for your setup.
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I've jst got one of these also and it is confusing.

The only way I can find to get a RGB input from my Sky+ box and output RGB from the recorder to the TV (without component) is to put the scart from Sky in TV out into the AV2 input and then the scart out from the recorder to the only RGB scart in no. 1

The only problem is when watching Sky with the recorder on I have to have sound from my amp set to the recorder not Sky as I get a slight lip sinc time delay otherwise. No problem unless you want to watch a DD program AND record it (in DS) at the same time.

I also tried the Svid out from Sky to the recorder but with the RGB scart still going to the TV got no picture to the recorder (and I did change the settings to svid)

The AV2 out from Sky via scart doesn't seem to output RGB.

Does this sound right? Any help greatly apperciated, thanks.

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You general connection setup is correct. You could get around you problem by purchasing a scart splitter and connecting:

Sky TV Out >>>> Splitter >>>> TV
Sky TV Out >>>> Splitter >>>> AV2 on the E95

This way each would have dedicated RGB feed and you wouldn't have you lip sync issues.

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The AV2 out from Sky via scart doesn't seem to output RGB
That's correct. Normal VCRs can't record RGB and thus the VCR socket doesn't have RGB out.
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Old 02-06-2005, 8:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply.

Where can I get (an RGB capable) splitter like that. The only ones I've seen have multiple inputs and only one output.

That certainly would cure the problem and I presume would also enable me to output SVHS from the 95 but still have an RGB input which would also help with the TV connection as I wouldn't always be in a loop through the 95, although I haven't really thought that through so it may be no use whatsoever!!
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After my last post it just occured to me that scart splitters may be bi-directional. Is that correct?
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You shouldn't need a scart splitter, that's a bit of an overkill and extra expense and 'spaghetti'

Two friends of mine bought the E95 recently from Richer Sounds and have no such lip synch issues. Take it back as it shouldn't be liek this. I thought Panasonic fixed this old problem. Even my E100 doesn't have this lip synch issue.

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They have audio connected direct from the E85, I assume you are connecting in 5.1 optcal direct from the sky box to amp?

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What you may need is a 'bypass scart' from your sky vcr out to a spare scart on your TV so you can still watch sky if the tuner on the Pan is recording something other than AV2. It will be composite, maybe s-video at best but it's only a as a temp measure.

If you MUST get a splitter then make sure it's an amplified buffer type that plugs into the mains. Otherwise you will lose a lot of pic and sound quality if you use the standard 'cheapo Argos' type.

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Two friends of mine bought the E95 recently from Richer Sounds and have no such lip synch issues. Take it back as it shouldn't be liek this. I thought Panasonic fixed this old problem. Even my E100 doesn't have this lip synch issue.
There are no lip sync issues with current Panasonic models but there could be any number of things that are causing it.
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Thanks for the replies.

Its not a lip sinc issue with the e95.

I have a very slight delay when I have the e95 on but the sound selected on the amp direct from the sky+ box via optical.

The only reason I've noticed this so far is when (playing around) I've turned the e95 on, so picture to the TV loops through it ON but I forget to select the appropriate input on the amp. So sound to amp from sky, picture to Tv via e95. I use to get exactly the same thing when "the e95 was an SVHS video". Not surprising I suppose as strictly speaking sound and picture are coming from different sources.

When I switch the e95 off the delay is gone or if I select the e95 input on the amp all is in sinc.

The only time I can see this being a problem is as I said before, when watching from sky+ so you get DD and recording at the same time.

In relation to running another scart to the TV from sky, should I be able to run the SVHS out from sky and get a picture whilst still having the rgb scart out connected?

I tried a similar setup to the e95 (rgb scart to TV, SVHS to e95 with necesarry settings on) but couldn't get a picture on the recorder.

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In relation to running another scart to the TV from sky, should I be able to run the SVHS out from sky and get a picture whilst still having the rgb scart out connected?
If the second scart outputs S-Video then yes, but it's more likey to be composite only.
Depends on the spec on your digi box. Some may even have s-video mini-din sockets which would be equally as good.
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