Panasonic TX32pg30 or TX32pg50 [Archive]

se_warner

14-03-2001, 8:34 AM

I ordered my pg30 about 1 week ago and was told that Panasonic would be releasing the pg30 and 32pg50 towards the end of March.

I am starting to get concerned about the reports comming out on these models, especially the recent review on the pg50. Has anyone seen either of the 32" models yet? Or has anyone who has a 36pg50 any thoughts as to how it compares with the pk20? I have a chance to change my order so should I get the pk20?

Thanks
Steve

14-03-2001, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by se_warner:
I ordered my pg30 about 1 week ago and was told that Panasonic would be releasing the pg30 and 32pg50 towards the end of March.

I am starting to get concerned about the reports comming out on these models, especially the recent review on the pg50. Has anyone seen either of the 32" models yet? Or has anyone who has a 36pg50 any thoughts as to how it compares with the pk20? I have a chance to change my order so should I get the pk20?

Thanks
Steve

I ordered a PK20 a long time ago only to find that it's been replaced by the PK25. An email to Panasonic told me that this is only due for release in April and is substantially the same as PK20 except with a new tube.

If they release it in April, I guess it won't be in the shops till May?? so I'm going for a PG30 instead. Thry should be available mid March I'm led to believe.

kevinl

15-03-2001, 7:11 PM

Hi

I received my tx32pg50 about a week ago and I am pleased with the set. I am still working out which settings picture settings to use.

This set seems to improve video playback compared to my old ferguson set. Teletext is far quicker ( nearly instant ) and you can navigate manually through sub pages instead of auto updating.

tv images look nice and clear especially on large areas of single colour. dvd's are also very good.

I downloaded the instruction manual from panasonic before receiving my set. this was useful.

The most important thing of course was that my wife liked the look of it.

If you have any questions please email me

Kevin

declanh

15-03-2001, 10:26 PM

anyone know if the pg30 and pg50 were released together or if the pg30 is still not available ?

declanh

19-03-2001, 5:38 PM

Originally posted by declanh:
anyone know if the pg30 and pg50 were released together or if the pg30 is still not available ?

Replying to myself ... how sad !

Spoke to my retailer today who tells me that the Northern Ireland distributor is waiting for a container to be filled ... which will hopefully have some tx32pg30s on it.

Declan

se_warner

22-03-2001, 9:31 AM

Spoke with Panasonic yesterday. The PG30 has now been released by sales for shipment although there are only a few available at the moment. Apparently another shipment is due by the end of next week. If I get mine I will post comments. Still concerned though having seen all of the problems with the 36PG50.

Steve

27-03-2001, 6:15 PM

I ordered a 32PG30 from the local Panasonic dealer here in deepest darkest Wales (Aberystwyth) this afternoon and he's getting a delivery tomorrow. *That's* what I call service http://www.wvip.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

declanh

28-03-2001, 9:25 PM

Originally posted by andrewi:
I ordered a 32PG30 from the local Panasonic dealer here in deepest darkest Wales (Aberystwyth) this afternoon and he's getting a delivery tomorrow. *That's* what I call service http://www.wvip.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

Well then , did he get the stock ?
Have you got the set yet ?
any comments ?

29-03-2001, 2:23 PM

It's being delivered Friday. I'll post my findings once I've had a chance to have a play http://www.wvip.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

faizy

30-03-2001, 3:54 PM

This TV can be found in many shops on Tottenham Court Road in London City. But many on-line shops sells them for very good price, like the the following website
http://www.qed-uk.com/cgi-bin/q?b-grp=169&b-code=32pg50s&v-bar=8

I am after that TV as well, can you please let me know their postive, as well as negative points? my e-mail is faizy_25@hotmail.com

30-03-2001, 8:16 PM

Well I've had a play and here are my *initial* findings. (Note: I've not had a chance to play with all the options yet)

Image
- very nice. I've not had a chance to play around with the various options like AI (just seems to increase contrast a bit) and NR (better switched off it seems). But nevertheless, strong colours, good sharpness and *very* solid blacks.
The only downside I would say is that it really shows up weaknesses in the source. Watch a film that's a few years old and it really shows up all the grain etc. A Bugs Life looks stunning though.
I am impressed with the Auto widescreen switching, send it a non-signalled letterbox image and it'll zoom it to fill the screen http://www.wvip.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

Sound
- Not bad. A bit muffled, but plenty of bass. I don't think it has a built in sub but sounds like it has. Good stereo image.

Gadgets & Doodahs
- Split teletext / picture, picture in picture (apparently, haven't figured out how to do this), strobe (utterly useless) & freeze.

Menu
- Excellent. The best I've ever used, very logical, lots of options including correction for the Earth's magnetic field.

Connections
- 2 RGB scarts, woohoo! 'nuff said.

Oh and it has 2 hidden carrying handles in the side, very cool, useful 'cos it's a heavy bugger.

If anyone has any questions, please post 'em here http://www.wvip.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

Andrew

declanh

30-03-2001, 8:27 PM

Originally posted by andrewi:

If anyone has any questions, please post 'em here http://www.wvip.co.uk/ubb/smile.gif

Andrew

Well Andrew - it so happens that I have a few questions :-)

1: How does the geomerty shape up - does the picture look square in all aspect modes
(esp 14:9 and 4:3)

2: How does the TV handle scrolling text (right to left) - eg credits at end of films or shows. Are they blurred - is this made better or worse by have the picture processing on.

3: What about the picture processing modes - are they worth using ? What about progressive scan input.

4: Have you tried RGB DVD input yet ? Any sign of picture banding or digital artifacts?

5: Sound - I've heard reports of a hum from the TX36PG50 is the sound clean on the TX32PG30?

6: Have you seen a TX32PK20 - how does it compare ?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Declan Higgins

31-03-2001, 2:25 PM

Declan

I'll do my best to answer your questions, please bear in mind that I've not had the TV long so these are my initial impressions.

1: How does the geomerty shape up - does the picture look square in all aspect modes
(esp 14:9 and 4:3)

4:3 seems to exhibit slight concave bowing, 14:9 seems to be better though. I will get an engineer out to sort this out.

2: How does the TV handle scrolling text (right to left) - eg credits at end of films or shows. Are they blurred - is this made better or worse by have the picture processing on.

They seem fine with all picture settings.

3: What about the picture processing modes - are they worth using ? What about progressive scan input.

The various scan options (Auto, 100hz & Progressive) seem to make some difference. All progressive seems to do is make the image flicker, apparently progressive is selected for NTSC material if the setting is set to Auto.

4: Have you tried RGB DVD input yet ? Any sign of picture banding or digital artifacts?

I've tried RGB DVD, there are no artifact problems. There is a big problem which I didn't notice at first but is quite nasty. It only occurs on anamorphic NTSC material. It is a weird "fan" interference pattern at either side of the screen. I have attempted to create an illustration of what I mean in Photoshop: http://www.warmlight.co.uk/images/tx32pg30.jpg) This is the sort of thing I mean. I've spoken to the Panasonic dealer and he didn't sound surprised. He said he'd speak to Panasonic technical on Monday but said they're generally unsympathetic when it comes to NTSC DVD playback :s I'll keep you updated. If anyone else can shed any light on this, I'd be grateful.

5: Sound - I've heard reports of a hum from the TX36PG50 is the sound clean on the TX32PG30?

Nope, nothing.

6: Have you seen a TX32PK20 - how does it compare ?

That was the model I wanted originally, but they've been discontinued and are a bugger to get hold of apparently. It got a blinding review in HCC (as you probably already know).

Hope this helps. Any more queries, just ask.

Andrew

31-03-2001, 2:27 PM

Here's that link again:
http://www.warmlight.co.uk/images/tx32pg30.jpg

rimmers

31-03-2001, 5:28 PM

As anyone else received there TX32PG30 or TX32PG50 yet as I have been waiting nearly 3 months for my TX32PG50 and its driving me crazy.

Neil

02-04-2001, 7:02 AM

My biggest worry with my "PG" set is that it stop responding to inputs from R/C and front panel. You have to power it down and back up again to get it to respond. (Rather a long winded process if all you want to do is change channel!) Mine, a 36PG50 does is at random intervals. I can only assume that it's the software locking up, seeing as a cold restart resolves it.

declanh

02-04-2001, 8:28 PM

Well I'm in a quandry ....
I have been offered a TX32PG30 as a replacement for my TX32PK20 which is without the promised 14:9 mode.

Trouble is - I cant work out if this is a wise swap. It the newer set 'better' even if it is more 'feature rich' ?

declan

02-04-2001, 8:57 PM

I think they have the potential of being a good TV. As to whether they'll get it there is unknown at the moment. In my opinion it's too much money to be parting with for something that isn't quite right and not consistant in the manner in which it performs. It's a shame.....

03-04-2001, 2:43 PM

Just to bring everyone up to date. I spoke to my Panny dealer today, he had spoken to Panasonic this morning who were (unsurprisingly) unaware of any problems with the PG30 and NTSC. They're going to "investigate" and he suggested I call him in a week or so. Hmmmm.

declanh

07-04-2001, 7:05 PM

Originally posted by andrewi:
Just to bring everyone up to date. I spoke to my Panny dealer today, he had spoken to Panasonic this morning who were (unsurprisingly) unaware of any problems with the PG30 and NTSC. They're going to "investigate" and he suggested I call him in a week or so. Hmmmm.

So ,
Anyone else any news or comments on these sets ?

Is everyone experiencing the 'fanning' effect on NTSC anamorphic ?

Declanh

Nick Drew

08-04-2001, 6:27 AM

I have been reading the comments about these sets with interest as I own a TX36PG50. I do not suffer the fanning effect mentioned when viewing anamorphic DVD's at all nor do I suffer any lines on the screen or dark corners. Also I do not suffer problems with my TV not responding to the remote control.
Maybe I'm lucky! Overall i'm very pleased with the set. Picture quality is excellent but it can show up limitation of source material in the form of grain i.e an old film or video. Dolby Digital sound is very good but DTS is really amazing. Compare DTS with DD on Gladiator for example. Overall i'm very pleased.

10-04-2001, 6:33 AM

I honestly wish I could say the same about my TX36PG50. :confused: It's because it doesn't perform consistantly with the same material/source that I'm so concerned, one should be able to expect faithful reproduction, everytime not just when it feels like it........

declanh

13-04-2001, 7:59 PM

Originally posted by andrewi:
Just to bring everyone up to date. I spoke to my Panny dealer today, he had spoken to Panasonic this morning who were (unsurprisingly) unaware of any problems with the PG30 and NTSC. They're going to "investigate" and he suggested I call him in a week or so. Hmmmm.

A week "or so" has passed - did they have any more news for you Andrew ?

Declan

Nick Drew

14-04-2001, 9:38 AM

Unfortunately I have just noticed the line problem TX36PG50 on my set. I previously said that I hadn't seen it. It is noticable on dark/mid tone scenes solely on NSTC anamorphic DVD's. It does look like a kind of fan effect. I'm a bit miffed now. Easiest way to see is if you pause at a black screen (i.e at beginning of movie when Warner logo fades out) and turn the brightness up.
ColinH/Encaser - Is this exactly the kind of thing you have noticed?

15-04-2001, 10:01 AM

I haven't got any of those type of DVDs yet so can't really comment.
However whilst watching "normal" TV the other night I had the pleasure of a line about 5mm wide scroling up the screen. I don't think was it from the broadcast as it only appeared on certain backgrounds. Eg the bod sitting in the middle of the screen was OK but it could be seen on the background at each side??

15-04-2001, 4:36 PM

Declan - I went to my Panny dealer yesterday for an update. He said he'd spoken to Panasonic 3 times about it and they weren't interested. He used the standard rubbish saying because it was only a problem with R1 disks they wouldn't support it. I pointed out that the TV was advertised as NTSC compatible, which is clearly isn't. He then said that Panasonic had blamed the regional encoding on the disk and said that that would have to be filtered out, I assured him they were talking out of their backsides. He even tried to blame macrovision until I pointed out that it was disabled in my player. I've made it clear to him that the TV is no good to me as it is, he's sending someone out next week to have a look at the problem (I'd have thought that should've been the first thing they did). But if they can't sort it, it's going back because it's not operating as advertised.

Nick - Yup, that's exactly the kind of problem I've got. On darker scenes it's most noticable. What DVD player do you have (so I can prove out to my Panny dealer that the problem is nothing to do with my Samsung 709)

I have to say, I'm pretty annoyed that I'm having these sort of problems with a TV costing this much, particularly since my Hitachi 32" costing half as much never had such problems.

Andrew

15-04-2001, 7:51 PM

Earlier today mine for no reason at all jumped onto Channel 0. I was then told it has done this before. The only thing I can think of is S/W problems. As Andrew says, and my opinion too, totally unacceptable for a TV costing this much.

Nick Drew

15-04-2001, 9:08 PM

Andrew, I have a Sony DVPS725 DVD player with Macrovision disabled. I can't believe I have only just noticed it. Trouble is once you see it you just can't help but look for it. I have had my set nearly 5 weeks and I know John Lewis will not replace it straight away. Not that I think that will solve it. I may even end up with a worst set judging by everone elses probs. They will want an engineer to come out mess around with it, take the back off and even take it away which I really don't want having had bad experiences with that in the past. I will probably just have to put up with it as it is obviously a design fault. Mine seems to show it slightly worst on the right hand of the screen side of the screen. Anyone else care to comment on there PG model?

declanh

15-04-2001, 9:15 PM

With all these problems with the PG series TVs I'm beginning to think I might be best to stick with my TX32PK20 and even tho it has no 14:9 mode. My retailer who had promised me a straight swap for the tx32pg30
has not got back to me and I can't help but feel that I might make problems for myself in asking for a swap. It's a pity they could not have just got me a PK20 with 14:9 like a asked for when I bought it !

Declanh

avelagapudi

16-04-2001, 1:31 PM

Got my 32PG50 last week and so far I am very happy with it.

I haven't noticed any of the previously mentioned problems yet but I haven't been looking either. I will try it with R1 Titan AE.

Only problem may be that it shows up the poor quality of my analogue NTL signal at times, maybe time to go digital !

rimmers

16-04-2001, 4:50 PM

I also got my 32PG50 last week and although the picture and sound are excellent I do get the renowned hum coming from the speakers. I have emailed Panasonic to ask them and I will get an engineer out to have a look.

Nick Drew

16-04-2001, 5:06 PM

The hum's a feature of the PG sets. See other posts on the subject of the tx36pg50.
It appears everyone has this hum (correct me if i'm wrong) and even Panasonic have said that it is normal for this set.

se_warner

16-04-2001, 8:17 PM

After waiting 2 months my 32pg30 arrived Saturday. My initial thoughts were wow!!! Picture looked stunning. However after a short while I started to notice the problems.

1) Fanning on NTSC. This can be seen whenever a disk is loaded, no matter what is being played. However, it is generally not noticable so I can live with it.

2) Geometry. Absolute Cr*p. The top concaves down, the bottom concaves up and the sides concave in. I have played arround with the service menus and corrected the sides but don't know how to fix the top and bottom. It's like the middle is perfect and above and below seem to bend towards to respective corners. It's not as band as the NTSC fanning problem but whenever you see see a straight line near the top or bottom it is curved, e.g the letter rack in Countdown.

3) I have dark patches either side of the screen. I am not sure if its the same as others have seen but it's there all of the time. It seems to be a convex shape, i.e. thicker at the top than the middle and about 3 inched wide. It makes the colours seem patchy, especially on backgrounds of the same colour.

I will call an engineer out but my guess is that it wil be a replacement set. Comments would be appreciated.

Steve

rimmers

16-04-2001, 8:35 PM

I have read other peoples responses from Panasonic and I would have to say that if Panasonic are calling this a feature and not a problem why isn't it on their website.

Advance 100HZ Super digital scan

Advance progressive scan

Annoying hum

Dolby Digital

I have yet to have my response from Pansonic so I am still hoping they realise its a problem and will sort it out. Let you know as soon as I get it.

Cheers

Neil

17-04-2001, 8:02 AM

Originally posted by declanh:
With all these problems with the PG series TVs I'm beginning to think I might be best to stick with my TX32PK20 and even tho it has no 14:9 mode. My retailer who had promised me a straight swap for the tx32pg30
has not got back to me and I can't help but feel that I might make problems for myself in asking for a swap. It's a pity they could not have just got me a PK20 with 14:9 like a asked for when I bought it !

Declanh

Have you asked your retailer if you can swap for a 32PK25 which apparrently is the replacement for the pk20, albeit with a different tube? Due out, supposedly 3rd week of april, i.e. today. I've been waiting for a pk20 since end jan which was then cancelled and reordered for a pk25. same looks, different tube. I am tempted by the PG30, but from what i've read I am sticking with the pK25 (that's if I ever get it!).

Rgds

avelagapudi

17-04-2001, 9:33 AM

Originally posted by se_warner:
I have played arround with the service menus and corrected the sides but don't know how to fix the top and bottom.

How do you get into the service menus for this model ?

Thanks.

se_warner

17-04-2001, 4:36 PM

Arry, accessing the service menus is already documented in the posting from 22/2/2001 New Panny PG Series TV Questions. What I will add is that after changing one of the parameters if you do not press str then the parameter reverts back to its original setting. Thats great if you want to try a few things out first.

I rang my dealer who is sending an engineer out Thursday. I rang Panasonic afterwards to get their opinion on what I should expect fom the tv. I first mentioned the geometry problem, i.e lines not straight at the top and bottom and the support guy immediately, without any hesitation told me to get the dealer to replace the set. His reason for this is that the set would need to go back to the factory for realignment. I am not sure if I am reading too much into this but he didn't seem surprised. I also mentioned the dark patches but he had lost interest by then. I also got the 'no known problems' when I told him about the various postings on this BB. We shall see!!!!!

Steve

17-04-2001, 8:08 PM

When I contacted Panasonic about the humming they replied that it was normal. I didn't think that they had read the Email properly and asked them to confirm what they had said that the set will "hum from the speakers". The reply that came back to that was. "We suggest you contact your retailer"
Which to my mind is "No"

rimmers

19-04-2001, 8:52 AM

In my response from Panasonic about the humming on my PG50 they said they were sorry that my TV had developed a fault and to contact either my retailer or a local Panasonic dealer. I will be getting an engineer out early next week.

The shop said it could be dry joints on the scan coils which causes them to vibrate which the speakers are picking up.

Neil

20-04-2001, 7:05 AM

Seems as though there are many answers to the same question - but the underlying theme being that "No, it's not normal"
(It's also incredibly annoying)
Please let us know how you get on.

se_warner

20-04-2001, 8:35 AM

Had the engineer look at my pg30. Despite trying to fob me off with "you get all sort of strange things with these new 100Hz wide screen sets" the shop, without any argument, are replacing the tv next week-end. We shall seeeee.

Steve

se_warner

20-04-2001, 12:15 PM

Not sure if anyone has had chance to see the latest HCC mag but they review the 32PG50. They only gave the picture quality 3*, criticizing the overprocessing of the signal regardless of what options have been turned on. I must admit that I have seen the same problem, I have been driving my other half mad as I am always playing with the options to try and get rid of some of the processing. There seems to be some inconsistancies with the processing of the same source as sometimes the picure is really good and othertimes you can see the problems.

Like Andrew, anyone got a good idea for a 'decent' 32" tv?

Steve

20-04-2001, 2:24 PM

That's what really worries me, the same source not providing consistant results. That coupled with it not responding and turning it's self to Channel 0, both randomly, in my opinion can only mean it's got problems (at a guess software ones)

20-04-2001, 3:22 PM

32" 100hz Philips 9616?? Dolby Dig and 100hz. Any feedback from anyone whose got one?

I've been put off 100hz becasue of the (generally) bad comments.

Trying to make a decision based on viewing sets in a shop is a none starter - why don't they set them up to try and sell them? The only pictures that look any good on the 14" portables!!!

20-04-2001, 4:09 PM

OG

I've been looking at this telly since all the problems with my Panny. The review (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/Televisions/Philips/Philips32PW9616.shtml) on HCC looks quite favourable.

20-04-2001, 4:53 PM

Thanks Andrew.

It's the comment "While standard analogue viewing is fairly unblemished, digital broadcasts and even DVDs tend to look a little processed" that worries me about 100hz in general. I watch everything through NTL Dig connected to RGB scart - great picture and widescreen.

But it's been voted TV of the year in latest issue of HCC so who am I to argue!

I'm going to have to replace my faulty 32PW6515 (see seperate What Now?!? post) and while the 9616 is £450 more, there's nothing else that seems to have everything I want (32", 50hz, Digital sound, kwh <keep wife happy> looks). I'm prepared to spend £1250 if it's dead right but I was happy with the 6515 and only £800.

The Hitachi C32WF535 looks interesting at £800 but it's not in the shops yet and I'm not too sure about Hitachi - anybody any views?

Nick Drew

20-04-2001, 6:44 PM

I had the Philips 32PW9616 on order before I changed it the Panny TX36PG50. I would have got it had it been in stock but after 5 weeks waiting they told me production had been suspended for a month due to a tube shortage. By then the new Panny PG's were released so I changed. I thought it was funny to suspend production on their flagship and award winning Dolby Digital TV whilst other, newer, less well specified 32 inch models were available!

20-04-2001, 11:20 PM

I had the engineer from my Panasonic dealer out this morning to look at the "fanning" effect. His diagnosis revolved around the possibility of the TV being very sensitive to "impurities" in the signal. He included regional encoding, macrovision and poor quality scart leads as possible sources of the problem, I told him I didn't agree with him on any of these diagnosis.

Unsurprisingly, not one of his suggestions as to the source of the problem included the TV in any way. :rolleyes:

He was adamant that he'd seen one of these TVs playing a R1 disk with no problems at all. So based on that, I suggested I bring my DVD player into the shop (guess what, they've not got a chipped player in the shop :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ) and they can try it on a few different sets to see if me (and anyone else who's got the problem) has just been unlucky and got a badly configured set. I have to say, I'm not holding out much hope.

If this doesn't work, the TV's going back and I'm gonna start looking for another one.

Any suggestions anyone? 32", pure flat, 100hz (not essential now ;))

Thanks
Andrew

20-04-2001, 11:38 PM

I received my PG30 yeserday after much deliberation as to whether to change from the PK20 (now PK25) that was ordered last Jan!

In the end, as the PK25 was still more than 2 weeks away, I plumped for the PG30. First impressions are OK. No apparent geometry problems, plays Region 1 and 2 DVD OK so far. (Thats using a simple Pioneer 535 with Prowire Scart and digital optical lead.)

If I sit right beside the tv, there is a very slight sound from inside, not exactly a hum as such, but I'll investigate more as I get familiar with it.

I've not played with progressive scan or any of the gizmos yet, but the picture seems certainly excellent and clear with no mixing of the colours.

Looks good in the room as it's not too imposing (management likes it, which is important!!)and easy to set up.

Rgds

Colger

28-04-2001, 7:14 AM

Interesting new thread.
My 32PG50 arrives this morning and is the 6th (yes 6th) 32inch widescreen I have had in 11 months.
Started with a 32PF10 - picture appalling as agreed by Panasonic HQ. Replaced by 2 32PK20's - not much better.
Changed to Sony 32FX60, first one bad pic and have had second one for about 6 Mths - but it is about to go back to the repair shop for the 3rd time.
Took the decision to have the 32PG50 but following reading of this thread I am now doubtful that I have made the correct decision.
Will keep you posted. :(

rimmers

28-04-2001, 1:26 PM

Have you got a nasty hum coming from the set particularly bad when in dolby pro-logic mode.

Colger

28-04-2001, 5:27 PM

32PG50 installed this morning - however, not really sat down to listen to anything serious yet. However, initial impression is good - no hum, no picture disturbance on NTSC - in fact, just been running 32PG50 alongside a Sony 32FX60 and the Panny is markedly superior in picture quality.
Time will tell!!! Will get a chance Monday evening to really listen and play when partner goes to work!!!!!

Colger

28-04-2001, 7:31 PM

I have just tried the pro-logic mode - interesting!!!!!! No signal from the rear speakers except a continuous hiss and what sounds like 'twitering birds' in unison with the sound coming from the front. Can't describe it as a hum but definitely not pro-logic.
I normally use a Yamaha A1000 prologic amplifier which I shall upgrade later.
Any comments would be appreciated.

29-04-2001, 8:04 AM

See the other thread titled
"Panasonic TX32PG50 Hum"
I agree they can, when they feel like it, produce superb pictures but yoy want that every time - I certainly do.
Swithced mine on the other day and it refused to display a picture, sound was OK, until it was powered off and then back on again. The list of "weird" things gets longer!

se_warner

29-04-2001, 7:15 PM

Got my replacement pg30 yesterday. The shaddowy bars on each side were darker than the first set. Also a similar line down the middle of the screen. The whole effect is that white backgrounds seem wishy-washy and the bars show on backgrounds of the same colour. My dealer sugegsted that the PG30 they had in the shop had been working for 2 weeks without problems. When I saw their tv it wasn't a lot better than mine. The thing is that until you notice the problem the set seems ok. BTW, the geometry is still as bad as the first set. Lines at the top and bottom on teletext show as concave lines. Is this normal for flat screen sets????

The dealer is seeing the Panny rep on Tuesday to find out if there are any known problems. I already know the answer. I did offer that Panny could send their engineers round to have a look as I live near Bracknell. My guess is they won't. I'll keep you updated.

Steve

Colger

30-04-2001, 12:06 PM

Have just discovered most of the problems noted above with my new 32PG50.
NTSC Fanning, Settings not being retained ie P-NR switched from on to off at some point.
One problem not previously mentioned - failure to switch into NTSC mode when presented with NTSC signal - appeared on screen in B & W and tint facility missing from menu. Corrected itself after I had turned the set off and then on.
Have spoken to Panasonic Technical Manager and he is saying there are NO KNOWN PROBLEMS with this model. A guy called Craig at Panasonic was very helpful last year but unfortunately he has since left. As this is my 6th 32" widescreen in 11 months Im seriously considering buying a £600 model of something - why pay £1700 to be dissatisfied!!!!
Im extremely disappointed with both Panasonic and Sony sets.

Colger

02-05-2001, 3:56 PM

Guys
Ive just had a good response from Panasonic who have told me that they have contacted some of you direct.
Hope this might resolve some, if not all, of the probs you have with the PG series.
I have noticed that turning 'progressive scan' off reduces, if not eliminates, the 'fanning' in NTSC mode.
Hope I have been some help to this thread.

Nick Drew

02-05-2001, 5:24 PM

Gerry, did they say anything specific about the faults. Anyhing other than 'no known problems' would be good. I have called them and they will not let me talk to an enginneer. They even promised to get one to look into it and call me back but he didn't. Regarding the Fanning on NTSC or ' moire patterning' as I believe it is correctly called, they just either tell me to turn progressive scan to auto or to 'call your dealer'.Useless.