Apocalypse Now Redux

[Mr Cat]

I've just received this dvd - I haven't had chance to watch it yet, but on the back is says that it isn't just the extra 44 minutes (or what ever), but its a total re-think, re-edit etc of the movie...just how much different is it from the original..?

cheers

[Ed Selley]

You get some dinky extra scenes, more playboy bunnies, the long (and not neccessarily useful) French plantation scene and more Kurz at the end. I like the plantation scene- it mimicks the Kurz speech on will and method (although most of it is in french with Willard straring a bit)but the test audiences hated it which is why it went in the first place. This is my favourite film of all time so I can't give an impartial comment on it but I reckon it is worth it.

[alexs2]

Just my opinion,but I thought the original was better...maybe a case of best not to fix something that isn't broken.
Without spoiling it,the film was long in any case,but the extra 44 minutes don't add a great deal except time,and I've tended to skip the extra bit whenever I watch it.
The extra 44 minutes are a slab in the middle of the film approximately,and a few other bits,so not so much a re-think,as just including something that originally made the cutting room floor.
Still a magnificent film.

[anephric]

The extra 44 minutes are a slab in the middle of the film approximately,and a few other bits,so not so much a re-think,as just including something that originally made the cutting room floor.
Still a magnificent film.

Exactly: it should be an alternate version to sit alongside the existing cut, not replacing it (as it has on dvd):

Should be part of a 3-disc set with Original, Redux and Hearts of Darkness.
I thought Redux made the film considerably more (pointlessly) long-winded and some scenes (the Bunnies) detracted from the tone appreciably.

It's not definitive, no matter what Coppola says.

[alexs2]

Exactly: it should be an alternate version to sit alongside the existing cut, not replacing it (as it has on dvd):

Should be part of a 3-disc set with Original, Redux and Hearts of Darkness.
I thought Redux made the film considerably more (pointlessly) long-winded and some scenes (the Bunnies) detracted from the tone appreciably.

It's not definitive, no matter what Coppola says.

That's a very good point,and I also wish that he'd done this when re-issuing the film after all those years.
As I've said,I still think the original cut was the best of the two,although it's still a great piece of film-making.

[Mr Cat]

cheers guys!

[Rambo John J]

in Hearts of Darkness, Coppola's wife says it's him that hated the plantation scene because he just couldn't get it the way he wanted, it was during a period of the filming when everything went wrong and he got more and more frustrated and bogged down as time went on. I can understand why he dropped it, but I can see why he's reinserted it aswell.
I like both versions, especially as I'd always wanted to see the whole plantation sequence after watching the HOD documentary, but the original theatrical version definitely has a darker tone to it, moves at a much faster pace and doesn't seem as episodic in its structure

[pjclark1]

far more sex in redux version
sex in the plantation
sex in the bunnys helicopter

[ELV]

Sold then!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Mr Cat]

I had a quick preview of this l;ast night - I'm most impressed with the sound quality...especially the opening scenes!