so where should i order kill bill uncut/colour now? [Archive]

bertha

09-04-2004, 7:06 AM

I would recommend getting the cheapest possible version of this film just now & then hold on for the delux directors cut special edition before everyone goes insane with confusion...you know you're all going to buy it again when it's rereleased..I know I am:grin:

Lets learn from the LOTR discs, aliens discs, flipper discs and so on of this world and be patient...:smoke:

peace

berth

inzaman

09-04-2004, 7:15 AM

I have not read the long cdwow thread so thanks ofr the info, i think i will be patient and wait for the deluxe set if it materialises

rosemanbridge

09-04-2004, 7:56 AM

Kill Bill & Star Wars, buy in 12 months time when we all know what's what and they're all under a tenner :-)

Indiana Jones

09-04-2004, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Matt Horne
as far as i know the jpn has english subs though supposedly not auto in the film.. i.e you would have to turn them on..

Other option maybe the Korean R3.. try www.koreandvds.com

Matt

I thought about ordering the Uncut version from there but it states a running time of 111mins and I thought the fully Uncut Japanese release was 113mins?

Does that mean it is still missing footage that the Region 2 Japanese release has?

Tardis

09-04-2004, 10:15 AM

Gutted,

I ordered R3 Kill Bill Volume One (Uncut: Hong Kong & Japan Cinematic Version) on the 7th at 2:45 in the afternoon

Today I got an email during the night saying it’s been sent from CDWOW and now I’ve just read this thread saying it’s cut etc. What a Cock-up.

How easy is to return goods to CDWOW and do they credit your card or give vouchers etc?

I already had the R! on order but like most of us, you prefer to see an uncut version.

Has CDWOW made a statement about this Cock-up? You would think that we would have received an email before despatching to customers and asking if they still want the R3. :( :thumbsdow

shedsounds

09-04-2004, 11:07 AM

Email CD wow and tell them you will be returning it. They accept why you are and send you a freepost envelope to return it in. Thats customer care of the top quality to me!

Tardis

09-04-2004, 11:26 AM

Cheers Shedsounds. :thumbsup:

Indiana Jones

09-04-2004, 11:38 AM

So what version is everyone going for, the Region 3 Thai version, the Region 3 Korean version or the Region 2 Japanese version?

Lex

09-04-2004, 6:46 PM

Pre-order (R2) from HMV and get a KillBill keyring - or - from Virgin and get a free pack of Killbill playing cards... :smashin:

JAMESTALKALOT

09-04-2004, 8:44 PM

Originally posted by Indiana Jones
So what version is everyone going for, the Region 3 Thai version, the Region 3 Korean version or the Region 2 Japanese version?

I pre-ordered the Jap version from movietyme.com

Simon6776

09-04-2004, 9:57 PM

I've ordered the R3 Thai version from www.dvdfromasia.com. :god:

Indiana Jones

09-04-2004, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Simon6776
I've ordered the R3 Thai version from www.dvdfromasia.com. :god:

I am tempted to get the Thai version but I am a little confused about the description on their site, it says its PAL and 133mins long but if it was PAL wouldnt it be more like 110mins due to PAL speed up?

Simon6776

09-04-2004, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Indiana Jones
I am tempted to get the Thai version but I am a little confused about the description on their site, it says its PAL and 133mins long but if it was PAL wouldnt it be more like 110mins due to PAL speed up?

Oh, cheers!! Just to confuse me even more! :rolleyes: :grin: :grin: To be honest, I've got past the stage of caring. I'll find out whether it's PAL or NTSC when I get it. As long as it's the uncut version, I don't mind.

Indiana Jones

09-04-2004, 10:29 PM

Check out this version on ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4181624842&category=2289

Says its the Region 3 Uncut Japanese release with 2mins of extra footage which also has French 5.1 Sound, is this guy making it all up or does he know of a version we dont?

Simon6776

09-04-2004, 10:35 PM

Could be a boot. Doesn't say if it's PAL or NTSC, but states 111 minutes, which isn't the magic 113 minutes, unless it's 111 minutes on PAL. :confused:

richdmx

10-04-2004, 12:03 AM

try www.dvdslimited.com for the uncut boxset £60 isnt bad compared to yesasia and movietyme :)

cybersoga

10-04-2004, 4:15 PM

I'm sure there will be an "unrated" box set of both parts in the USA when its been out for a while.

Indiana Jones

12-04-2004, 8:35 PM

If you are interested in the Region 3 Thai release you might want to check out www.versatiledisc.co.uk who are based in the UK and are offering it for £15.99 delivered, never heard of them before but might be worth a try.

the_pauley

13-04-2004, 1:37 AM

My first ever purchase from CD-WOW.

Possibly my last.

Not impressed... :thumbsdow

Simon6776

13-04-2004, 8:35 AM

Originally posted by the_pauley
My first ever purchase from CD-WOW.

Possibly my last.

Not impressed... :thumbsdow

In fairness to CD Wow, they were caught out as well by this, as they thought they were getting the uncut version. If you want to return your copy, they will send you a pre-paid envelope. Their customer service is second to none, and they are generally one of the better companies to deal with, and have some superb bargains. Don't let this one cock up put you off using them again. :)

Geezer

13-04-2004, 9:16 AM

Originally posted by Simon6776
In fairness to CD Wow, they were caught out as well by this, as they thought they were getting the uncut version. If you want to return your copy, they will send you a pre-paid envelope. Their customer service is second to none, and they are generally one of the better companies to deal with, and have some superb bargains. Don't let this one cock up put you off using them again. :)

Ditto, you will be missing out if you dont use them again. Easily the best site i have used

Simon6776

13-04-2004, 9:24 AM

My Thai version from www.dvdfromasia.com has shipped!! :clap: :smashin:

Chanser

13-04-2004, 3:25 PM

Let us know if the Thai version comes uncut and burned in english subs for the Japanese scenes.

Rambo John J

13-04-2004, 4:01 PM

it's worth noting that this is way beyond CD wows control, especially when you consider Hong Kong did get the "asian" or "uncut" version of the film on its theatrical release, same as Japan, and that it was a logical assumption that the DVD release would be the same version.... unfortunately Miramax/Buena Vista/Disney decided to release the same "western" version as we got on DVD over here. Madness.:rolleyes:

I'll track down the link to some gabbing from Tarantino (I found it through a link at bulletsnbabes) where he's clearly stated his intention to release the uncut version in the west in the future. He personally retained the rights to the "uncut Japanese/asian version", which he's intending to splice together with part 2 to make his 3 hour+ epic that he's looking to send out on an unrated or NC-17 arthouse theatrical tour. Given how much more restrictive the R rating is compared to the UK 18, I'd be surprised if he didn't release it over here and it passed no hassle with an 18.

sorry if everyone already knows this.... these Kill Bill threads are a devil to read through to find out what exactly people do or don't know

figrin_dan

14-04-2004, 7:31 AM

From http://www.hive4media.com

“We did a special version for Japan that’s only been shown in Japan and Hong Kong, and I kept the rights to that,” Tarantino said. “So after Kill Bill 2 has come out and does everything it’s going to do [at the box office] … just like they did with Once Upon A Time in America when they came out with that four-hour version, I’ll release the Japanese version that’s never been seen outside of Hong Kong and Japan. I’ll put the Japanese version together [with Volume 2] like I would if it was one complete movie, and then I'll release that throughout America and Europe in arthouse engagements.”

Rambo John J

14-04-2004, 10:02 AM

yeah, that's the thing I read... of course it does nothing for everyone that wants it now and can't wait:suicide:

ian2k3

15-04-2004, 11:06 AM

the japanese region 2 should be shipping tomorrow. ive ordered mine from hmv.co.jp.

Indiana Jones

15-04-2004, 11:08 AM

Same goes for the R3 Thai release, should be shipping tomorrow so hopefully will have it monday.

15-04-2004, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Indiana Jones
Same goes for the R3 Thai release, should be shipping tomorrow so hopefully will have it monday.

that really is being hopefull ;)
last time i ordered from thailand it took about a week iirc?
if its from dvdsfromasia, i think he sends them to england then gets his mates to post them on from here (or thats how my ong bak arrived) although he was in france! and the discs come from thailand:confused:

Rambo John J

15-04-2004, 1:02 PM

I understand all the prints used for the transfer had no burnt in subs, regardless of region code, so if you get a version from a non english speaking country like Japan or Thailand you have to manually turn on the subtitles at various points through the film or leave them on all the time... or do without them altogether don't you? From memory, Kill Bill v.1's got at least half the dialogue in Jap hasn't it?
People are going to need some quick thumb action if they don't want the subs onscreen all the time aren't they?

:confused: :zonked:

this one's a real brainmelter. Doesn't seem to be any really good way round this... unless I'm completely mistaken with all this:suicide:

Indiana Jones

15-04-2004, 1:33 PM

Originally posted by pj
that really is being hopefull
last time i ordered from thailand it took about a week iirc?

Well if items sent via airmail from Hong Kong only take 3 days shouldnt it take the same amount of time from Thailand or do they have a worse postal service?

f_drew

15-04-2004, 1:37 PM

To help with some more possible confusion, ;), the forums at koreandvds state that the korean version will be uncut and will feature the black and white sequence. I take it from that they mean that it will be the western cut (no further cuts imposed).

Craig from Movietyme mentioned on their forums that he'll review a copy of the Jap disc as soon as they receive it there to make sure that it's the full colour blood and guts version before shipping. A very wise decision and good piece of customer service methinks !!! :smashin:

Roughneck1

15-04-2004, 1:47 PM

The amount we are shipping we gotta make sure it is what it is suppose to be... tense weekend me thinks :)

Jez

15-04-2004, 1:48 PM

Thats nice of him as he is charging 26quid for it!!

Matt Horne

15-04-2004, 1:56 PM

Amazon jp have more stock of the premium set for about £35 inc shipping (pick the slowest option) - no idea how they got hold of more...

Matt

figrin_dan

15-04-2004, 3:37 PM

Originally posted by Rambo John J
I From memory, Kill Bill v.1's got at least half the dialogue in Jap hasn't it?

I would say maybe 5-10 mins in Japanese, mostly Sonny Chiba arguing about tea IIRC, I'll stick with my R3 (HK) for a while.

ebury

15-04-2004, 4:35 PM

good spot matt,just ordered one for my brother(maybe:blush: )
I do think the makers of this set have released more than they first said would be available as a few others e-tailers have had plenty of stock come there way!!!:beer: :beer: Paying well over the odds seems a bit silly now!!!

RL123

15-04-2004, 5:02 PM

Any news on when the Movietyme's review will be posted? Also can someone post a link to the Movietyme forum since I can't find it on the website at all :rolleyes:

Thanks

TheBigApple

15-04-2004, 5:43 PM

http://www.dvdlifestyle.com/

RL123

15-04-2004, 5:55 PM

Thanks :)

SamirP

15-04-2004, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by figrin_dan
I would say maybe 5-10 mins in Japanese, mostly Sonny Chiba arguing about tea IIRC, I'll stick with my R3 (HK) for a while.

Most of the second half of this film is in Japanese and in key areas aswell. If I hadn't seen it at the cinema and knew what was being said it would have a nightmare.

The fights do seem even better second around

:clap:

23/04/04 have you got your ticket ;)

richard plumb

16-04-2004, 7:27 AM

the subtitle issue will be the same for other languages too - like English.

eg, you'll need player subtitles when they are speaking Japanese, but not when they are speaking English.

So I'd expect the English language version to have two sets of subtitles - one on all the time, the other only when Japanese is being spoken (this last one would most likely be selected by default)

So in that case, the Japanese one would probably only have English subtitles on full time?

Simon6776

16-04-2004, 8:35 AM

If the Thai version is the same as the Jap version, I still think that English subs will be burnt in at the appropriate places, given the amount of English speaking people over there.

Indiana Jones

16-04-2004, 9:35 AM

Well someone has watched the Thai release and they have confirmed it is the same as the Japanese Uncut version with extra footage and no b/w scenes but they didnt mention whether or not there were any burnt in subtitles.

Jez

16-04-2004, 9:48 AM

Who has watched the Thai version Indiana?

16-04-2004, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Jez
Who has watched the Thai version Indiana?

"you call him doctor jones doll!";)
i too would like to know?

Indiana Jones

16-04-2004, 10:09 AM

The person on eBay selling the R3 Thai release for £15.49 is posting on the DVD Reviewer Forum and yesterday he wrote this...

Okay to add to my original post. My supplier has watched through this Thai Release and confirms that it is the version he saw at his local cimema in Thailand AKA The Asian Uncut Full Colour release, with selectable English Subtitles.

His original post on the Forum was this...

Just wanted to quash all the Panic and Incorrect rumours surrounding the Thai Version of KILL BILL and exactly what CDWOW official stance is. I have just come off the telephone to Stuart Wood, who descibes himself as CDWOWS DVD GURU, in other words CDWOWS DVD main man. And he confirms that CDWOW are aware of an R3 Thai UNCUT Version, the same as the Japanese R2 version, but they do not stock it. As most of their suppliers are based in Hong Kong and not Thailand, where this DVD has been released by a very well respected distributor. So there's no need to pay for the over priced Japan R2 Release - unless you haven't a multi-region dvd player that is. Go for the Thai R3 Release! I supply this version myself, so the last thing i want is to end up with a load of R3 Cut Versions that I cannot sell. I have carried out extensive research on the Thai Release. It is currently IN STOCK in Thailand and will be shipping on Fri 16th April. I have also requested my supplier to pop it in to have a look and check that it is what is described in the spec sheet. I will report back with what he finds, but as you can appreciate he is very bogged down! And as far as he is concerned it IS THE UNCUT VERSION, with FUll Colour and English Subs. And i am confident as a bulk buyer that the Thai Release of KILL BILL is UNCUT and Identical to the Jap R2 Release, just much cheaper!!

Rambo John J

16-04-2004, 11:07 AM

cool, that's the one for me. Good job too as I'd already ordered it.

Thanks to everyone that's kept the stream of info coming.... :thumbsup:

figrin_dan

16-04-2004, 11:35 AM

It's a bit odd saying 'FULL colour' and 'No b/w scenes' when there is only 1 b/w scene that was filmed for colour. The scenes filmed for b/w are surely not going to be colourised

16-04-2004, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by figrin_dan
It's a bit odd saying 'FULL colour' and 'No b/w scenes' when there is only 1 b/w scene that was filmed for colour. The scenes filmed for b/w are surely not going to be colourised

iirc its only the HOBL that is now in colour the opening is still b+w even though the HOBL was shot for b+w as u can see some of them spraying clear water in the colour trailers! wonder if the colourise the water?

figrin_dan

21-04-2004, 7:22 AM

Originally posted by pj
wonder if the colourise the water?

No, they didn't

21-04-2004, 5:29 PM

Originally posted by figrin_dan
No, they didn't

i know what the water is now!!!
in the japanese version a bunch of them are pushed into the water, the guy who appears to be slashed and sprays water is actualy one of the ones who has come out of the water so he is soaking wet all over! and as he spins he sprays the water from his hair! its much clearer watching it on the projector! ;)

figrin_dan

22-04-2004, 7:06 AM

Thanks pj, that makes sense.
I had come to the conclusion that a couple of them had a bottle of Evian in their pockets - you know, it must get tiring, all that fighting.

the_pauley

22-04-2004, 7:27 PM

Seems to be a hell of a lot of water flying off that guy though.

Wouldn't a possible reason be that they had to optically de-colourize the blood to get the scene passed for the trailer?

22-04-2004, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by the_pauley
Seems to be a hell of a lot of water flying off that guy though.
Wouldn't a possible reason be that they had to optically de-colourize the blood to get the scene passed for the trailer?

he is totally drenched even his shirt is soaking, the water is flying off him before he even makes contact with uma! as he spins it all flys off like a dog shaking itself!
btw i just saw vol.2 and (no spoilers!!)it has some of the colour scenes from the japanese version in it!

JAMESTALKALOT

24-04-2004, 8:05 AM

Originally posted by pj
he is totally drenched even his shirt is soaking, the water is flying off him before he even makes contact with uma! as he spins it all flys off like a dog shaking itself!
btw i just saw vol.2 and (no spoilers!!)it has some of the colour scenes from the japanese version in it!

When I saw this bit I had to rewind and then do a frame by frame...it is 100% WATER:thumbsup:

Anybody thinking this is a movie blunder just has to use the slow mo and it's all very clear that it's water flying of him.;)