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StooMonster
03-11-2003, 11:23 PM
If my resistance were to fail totally -- and it's not far off -- and I upgrade my FMJ A22(2),P25(3),P35(2) combination to AV8+P7, which speakers would be recommended.

Five or seven speaker THX set for approximately same price as AV8+P7 would be nice.

StooMonster

Gordon @ Convergent AV
04-11-2003, 7:30 AM
You don't fancy just an AV8 and some active monitor Genelec's?

That's what will be in use alot at The Event.

G

lowrider
04-11-2003, 10:50 AM
I love my Sonus Fabers and my Brystons, but if I start again I will get active speakers, fed-up with cables... :god:

michaelab
04-11-2003, 11:34 AM
Errr...Antonio, you still need cables for active speakers ;) Only, it's interconnects instead of speaker cables.

Michael.

lowrider
04-11-2003, 2:16 PM
Sure, but the same ICs, just longer, and I save speaker cables + 4 PCs just for the powers, I know each speaker will have a PC, but spreaded thru the room, and the rack will be emptier, could even be anywhere in the room, as balanced cables can be long without problems... :devil:

StooMonster
04-11-2003, 7:36 PM
Originally posted by Gordon @ Convergent AV
You don't fancy just an AV8 and some active monitor Genelec's?

That's what will be in use alot at The Event.

G

Now that is an idea, and i can check it out this weekend.

Have never really looked at active speakers before, does this mean lots of power cables everywhere -- although thinking about it, even if I had 7.1 (eight) speakers each one would be next to a power point. Woot!

StooMonster

Craig Sowerby
05-11-2003, 8:13 AM
Hi,

Have a listen to the Jamo D7 THX Ultra2 system with the Arcam pair, £5200 for the 7.2 system, excellent for the money.

Good luck.

StooMonster
05-11-2003, 7:35 PM
Cheers Craig, and I guess I can do that in "Sevenoaks Sound & Vision"! Perhaps I'll drive a junction or two up the M20 to Maidstone to check them out.

StooMonster

sticker
05-11-2003, 7:51 PM
Stoo,
Have a look at the Mackies & ATC as well if you are thinking about the active route. I think Spligsey has the Mackies and General Skanky has demo'd the ATC actives.

I don't know what level you compare a passive speaker to an active speaker. For example using my system, the speakers retail for £7,000 and the Amp £2,500. So for a 7.1 sysyem, ignoring the .1, that gives a spend of around £1,300 or so for each speaker. Will the comparitively priced active system compare to the passive at this price level? I haven't the faintest, probably someone like Beekeeper would know.

Thought I would add to your dilema :devil: :devil:

Regards
John

General Skanky
05-11-2003, 8:01 PM
Dunkyboy is (was, he's sold them and changed), the ATC active freak. I'm the passive version.

I've just bought a pair of these -

http://www.atc.gb.net/products/scm35.htm

Absolutely fantastic. It may be worth your while getting a demo.

RAMiAM
05-11-2003, 9:40 PM
Slightly mainstream and conservative but...

B&W Nautilus:
803 or 802 FrontL&R
HTML2 or HTML1 Centre
SCM1 or 805 Surrounds
ASW800 or 850 Sub'

Or maybe Bowers & Wilkins new 700 range

Dynaudio Audience:
82 FrontL&R
122c Centre
62 or 52 Surrounds
30a Syb'

I haven't heard their other ranges but I must admit that I saw some of the Evidence range (the Master) and think they looks very sweet indeed!

Or if active floats your boat them maybe Meridians 5500 or 5000 Series, I think they come in either Digital or Analogue flavours.

Or you get get some <<real quality>> speakers like the Duntech Prince or Princess http://www.duntech.com.au/english/products/classic-series/index.html ;) :devil: he he

RAMiAM

StooMonster
06-11-2003, 12:13 AM
RAMiAM, you asked me not to buy the same Duntech Princess speakers as you; is it okay if I do now? :blush: Actually, Mrs StooMonster wouldn't have them in the living room as they are so big and impressive -- only boys like them. :)

You are correct, I'm thinking Bowers & Wilkins are indeed a bit too mainstream and conservative -- how may B&W speakers do you see in "Get your plasmas out for lads" photos?

I should stop this now, first it was "perhaps I'll change my plasma", then "think I'll upgrade amps to THX Ultra 2", then it's "I'll need new THXU2 speakers too", then "active or passive speakers". The dark side is calling me ... must ... stop...

Thanks for ATC thoughts, i did look at them last the dark side was tempting me with AV upgrades. Do these work particularly well with Arcam FMJ or is this a they are generally very cool suggestion?

StooMonster

sticker
06-11-2003, 7:12 AM
OK, if your talking mainstream, I've got to promote my own Kef ref 203's/202c/tdm34ds..............................and of course justify to the missus the cost :blush:

CrispyXUK
07-11-2003, 11:44 AM
If your talking non-mainstream maybe a set of Ruark Preludes for front with another 2 sets of Proluges for rears, a Dialogue one MKII for centre and a couple of Log Rythm Subs.

Now that would be a system :)

RAMiAM
07-11-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by CrispyXUK
If your talking non-mainstream maybe a set of Ruark Preludes for front with another 2 sets of Proluges for rears, a Dialogue one MKII for centre and a couple of Log Rythm Subs.

Now that would be a system :)

Reads very much like your own system ;)

RAMiAM

CrispyXUK
08-11-2003, 4:56 PM
hehe :)

(They do have the loveliest treble ever though)

NicolasB
10-11-2003, 11:58 AM
B&W Nautilus:
803 or 802 FrontL&R
HTML2 or HTML1 Centre
SCM1 or 805 Surrounds
ASW800 or 850 Sub
I can't speak from experience, but an Arcam P7 might have some problems driving Nautilus 802s - you need something really pretty high-powered to drive those. I've heard a P7 drive 803s quite comfortably, though.

A lot of people are extremely fond of B&W's Signature 805 as well, with good reason: it's a BIG step up in quality from the Nautilus 805. Many people prefer it even to the Nautilus 803. I am not among them, but I can understand why.

kevshed
11-11-2003, 9:22 PM
I have the FMJ Pair... demo'd the new B&W 700 range in my flat last week... sounded very good to me, so i think im heading that route....

my 2 cents...

sticker
11-11-2003, 9:58 PM
Nic,
With speakers like the upper end Nautilis that are difficult to drive, what specs should you look at on both the amp and speakers? I take it, it's not a pure watts issue.

Regards
John

Mike430
14-11-2003, 6:59 PM
Finished a similiar system with JMLab Electras a little while ago. The Arcam pieces sounded stellar with the Electras in surround and stereo. No problems driving them what-so-ever.

Mike