[Fred Quimby]

Had my Ceol for over 6 months now,and after getting rid of a Sky broadband connection 2Mg download speed and going with BT Infinity 56 Mg from switching on the Ceol it takes 8 seconds from cold to connect and play any station in the world.

No probs at all.

[AndcB]

All good with my unit after 6 months (touch wood).
Firmware update yesterday seems to have gone well.
Airplay works as expected and access to my music server (Netgear Readnas Duo) is easy. Would realy like the Pandora app to be available.

[iamsquonk]

Just bought an RCD N7 with QA 2010i speakers. I am really impressed with the whole lot so far. Easy set up, no internet connection issues, (and to be honest I am not a "Techy"). My only issue is that if I shut iTunes and restart the PC, my unit plays at a volume determined by iTunes, which woke my missus and daughter at 2am. Any suggestions, other than checking before I start up.
All in all 10/10 for the kit, price and dealer, was couriered from Devon to Caithness for a touch over £400 including cables and extra cover warranty.

[Fred Quimby]

Strange, I did not know you could do this. BUT I can access all stations I have saved to my favourites, without having my laptop on.

I always thought you had to have a laptop on in order to access any internet station.

[shereboy]

Originally Posted by iamsquonk

Just bought an RCD N7 with QA 2010i speakers. I am really impressed with the whole lot so far. Easy set up, no internet connection issues, (and to be honest I am not a "Techy"). My only issue is that if I shut iTunes and restart the PC, my unit plays at a volume determined by iTunes, which woke my missus and daughter at 2am. Any suggestions, other than checking before I start up.
All in all 10/10 for the kit, price and dealer, was couriered from Devon to Caithness for a touch over £400 including cables and extra cover warranty.

If you have QA speakers you can pair them with QA speaker stands, I bought a pair for original speakers and imho they look really cool.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8014/7...666517a8_c.jpg
P1160714 by Shereboy, on Flickr

And for the volume issue, in Itunes I never leave the active speaker as an airplay device.

[iamsquonk]

Just an update after 6 weeks or so. The kit is great and is sounding better by the day. The only thing is I cannot get Spotify to stream. Is this something that is only available with some Denon kit?

[Sgt Kelly]

This thing is easily the worst buy of my life. Apart from the CD player and the FM radio, nothing on it works.

When I first got it it wouldn't connect to my wireless network, in fact it wouldn't even see it. After a day's worth of trying I just gave up. A couple of weeks later I gave it another go and lo and behold : there was my network right at the top of the list.

My joy was shortlived as it then refused to play, or even show, any internet radio stations.

A couple of weeks ago it stopped playing music from my Iphone as well. When I put it in the dock it says 'Unsupported'. The same when I try to connect it via the USB port.

Today, as a last resort, I tried to update the Firmware. No connection to the server...

I'm more than willing to do a bit of fiddling to get something to work, but I'm utterly frustrated with this thing. It won't give you even the slightest hint why something isn't working and there's no support available anywhere.

If anyone has any helpful suggestions, I'd be much obliged.

[Sagar1982]

Anyone got any idea what the firmware update the other day was about then?

[shereboy]

I disabled update notifications because all the previous updates erased my favorites list. Why would I need an update since all the features are working properly.

[wytco0]

No idea but it was a complete pain, spent hours saying authenticating then after I rebooted router it took ages to install.

[AndcB]

Originally Posted by Sagar1982

Anyone got any idea what the firmware update the other day was about then?

No idea what the update achieved, let it run (took a long time to authenticate) and then went out. Seemed OK when I returned home. I have not noticed any improvements or differences.

[Fred Quimby]

How do you disable the update notifications,as all my favourites were deleted.

[Worrab]

Sgt Kelly,

The following will delete ALL your settings.

It's possible that re-installing the firmware in your box will improve matters. The most reliable way to do this if your Ceol can't reliably see your network is to go to the Denon support site and download the current firmware image. It comes as a zip file that you have to unzip and then burn the (four I think) files to a CD.

To use the CD.
Unplug the power lead. Firmly hold down the up arrow and volume down buttons together on the unit and then replace the power lead. When the power button lights up, release the buttons you're holding and the power button will start to blink. Soon, the CD drawer will open. Place the CD in the drawer, close it and let the reinstallation run. When it seems to stall, press the OK button to continue. When it finishes (about an hour or so), turn off the unit.

To reconfigure your network settings
Unplug the power lead. Hold down the volume up and volume down buttons together on the unit and then replace the power lead. When the power button lights up, release the buttons you're holding and the power button will start to blink. This time it will initialise and ask you to configure your network. Mine doesn't see my access point nor my DHCP (automatic network configuration) server so I have to set it up manually and it sounds like you have a similar issue. You'll need to know your network address range, gateway and DNS servers to set things up by hand.

[shereboy]

Originally Posted by Fred Quimby

How do you disable the update notifications,as all my favourites were deleted.

If you say no to update notification it asks to disable notifications. I think its also accesible from network menu.

[mullez]

Hello,
I am suddenly experiencing problems with the wireless internet connection with my Denon Ceol (RCD-N7).
I have has the system since March and have only once experienced that the Denon lost the connection.
Now the problem is constant. Every time the internet or the denon has been turned off, the internet connection is lost and I have to make a new 'first' connection.
The Denon finds my wireless internet right away, but it newer remembers the connection as ity used to.
The problem began before the update (which I completed)

The system is pretty muvh useless if I have to make a new connection every time I want to use internet radio.

Can any one help me?

[andyABC]

Hi all,

I got recently the Denon CEOL N7 and unfortunately there are a few flaws.
A big problem with this device is the fact, it uses the same MAC-Address for LAN connection and WLAN connection. This causes a huge variety of problems, because no router expects this and may crash or behave unpredictable.

Please be aware of this and either connect it via LAN (and prevent seeing the device via WLAN) or just use WLAN and never connect to LAN.
Unfortunately the update process is very unstable and likely to fail and even more over WLAN. I my case the update failed several times over network leave the system in a state no network connections could be done. So the last chance was a CD update as described earlier in this thread.
I was lucky to figure out some faults and workarounds and successfully updated via CD method.
After that I got a further update via Network which this time succeeded as well and now the stereo is up to date and fully working. Even AirPlay update is now included without extra costs (But needs of course extra installing).


Here are some essential tips:
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- Burn the CD in all standards including UDF!

Denon described to create the CD in ISO 9660 standard only. This is actually wrong!!!!
I was lucky to see the filenames differ on the CD and the content of the ZIP file, because the names have been shorted to 8 characters.
Unfortunately it do not like Joilet standard but a CD supporting all standards ISO 9660, Joilet and UDF(!) solved the problem. After I change my CD burner to this setting the stereo tooks the firmware files and loaded it successfully.

- Reboot your network router and recheck routing information about the Denon CEOL

After the firmware update succeeded I was not able to connect to WLAN, because my router (FritzBox) remembers the MAC address to be on LAN. Even a restart of the router didn't solve it. I have to reconfigure my router to forget the entry for Denon CEOL. After that a connection was possible. This goes so far it didn't even see the SSID and leave me think WLAN is broken at all. But the problem here was actually the router.
All people reporting network issues, please double check your router. As described in the beginning using the same MAC address twice causes many (may be even all) routers to fail.

[andyABC]

Hi again,

something I couldn't solve up to now is the Denon Remote app. Even it says in ads it supports also Android the application refuses to connect and state "Device is not supported".
Actually I found in the description of the Android DenonRemote App 1.0.3 it only supports the new Denon CEOL N8 but not the N7. That's really not nice!!
On the other hand the iPhone DenonRemoteApp should work OK, but needs at least iOS 4.3 but I can have only 4.2.1, that's a fail again.
Are there any better experiences?

[iamsquonk]

@AndyABC,

I have had the same experience, (in fact downloaded 2 Denon remote apps from Android store), I have found the AVR remote has more success than the Denon app, but is still limited. Luckily I have been a good boy this year and Santa has promised a 5th Gen iPod Touch, will let you know if that is more successful, (although I will have to buy a different connector to dock with the Denon unit).

Richard

[fulci]

got it connected to the internet after a few hours of fannying about with it..had to change the ip address manually etc..
anyway i cant connect to anything..no internet radio stations..i tried the firmware update but just get a connection error even though its telling me its connected as i can see my router showing..!!

i knew as soon as i started trying to get it to work it would be a nightmare!!

anyway i have burnt the firmware to a cd..i will try it tomorrow but im in 2 minds to try it because what will it actually achieve?

any advice?
cheers
lee

[fulci]

got it working but how do i get it to talk to my laptop..when i press music server it can see my laptop but says not authorised..how do i authorise it?
please help


lee

[andyABC]

Hi, that is really easy. Do following on your Laptop: 1. Start Windows Media® Player 11. 2. Select [Media Sharing] from the [Library] menu. 3. Check [Share media]. 4. From the list of devices under the [Share media] checkbox, select the devices that you want to share data with, and then select [Allow]. 5. Select [OK]. Setup for the DLNA Media Server is completed. If you have a other language installed than englisch the options are named differently. In German it's named "Medienstreamingoptionen" for example. You can enter the name directly in the Start "Execute" field to open the dialog quicker. By the way I found the Denon device in the network area and windows installed a few drivers, and now I can control Denon N7 even from the Windows Media player, but is very slow.

Originally Posted by fulci

got it working but how do i get it to talk to my laptop..when i press music server it can see my laptop but says not authorised..how do i authorise it?
please help


lee

[fulci]

got it working with itunes mate..works like dream now

[andyABC]

Originally Posted by fulci

got it working with itunes mate..works like dream now

That's great news. A other question. Does anybody know, what the difference of the new CEOL is? It's named CEOL N8 instead of N7. As far as I know, the WiFi antenna is different, but beside this? It would be great, if the new firmware fits as well on the old one. Are there ideas here?

[clydebest]

Originally Posted by andyABC

That's great news. A other question. Does anybody know, what the difference of the new CEOL is? It's named CEOL N8 instead of N7. As far as I know, the WiFi antenna is different, but beside this? It would be great, if the new firmware fits as well on the old one. Are there ideas here?

Ceol N8 one of its new features is you can connect to Spotify , since the demise of Napster on the N7 why did they never offer Spotify as a replacement , also does anyone else have trouble with getting stations via the Internet radio , my experience being hit and miss whether it will connect with desired station , then it is a lottery if it stays connected or not, and this is with a Ethernet connected 120 Mb/s connection . Decent sound but the software in my case is poor

[andyABC]

Originally Posted by clydebest

Ceol N8 one of its new features is you can connect to Spotify , since the demise of Napster on the N7 why did they never offer Spotify as a replacement , also does anyone else have trouble with getting stations via the Internet radio , my experience being hit and miss whether it will connect with desired station , then it is a lottery if it stays connected or not, and this is with a Ethernet connected 120 Mb/s connection . Decent sound but the software in my case is poor

Hi Clydebest, that's not really an answer to the question, right? So you have a N7, right but not an N8. If it uses Napster or Spotify should be just a Software issue and replaceable with a firmware update. I am really curious, if the new N8 firmware could work on the N7. Is the internal hardware really changed? It looks so similar...

[clydebest]

Originally Posted by andyABC

Hi Clydebest, that's not really an answer to the question, right? So you have a N7, right but not an N8. If it uses Napster or Spotify should be just a Software issue and replaceable with a firmware update. I am really curious, if the new N8 firmware could work on the N7. Is the internal hardware really changed? It looks so similar...

As far as i am aware it is the major difference , the spec of the N8 is almost if not identical to the N7 .Just a new facade with ceol written on front, apart from that very little difference. I have no intention of ever buying N8 , N9 , or any other CEOL from Denon due to the lack of support for products once purchased.

[andyABC]

Originally Posted by clydebest

As far as i am aware it is the major difference , the spec of the N8 is almost if not identical to the N7 .Just a new facade with ceol written on front, apart from that very little difference. I have no intention of ever buying N8 , N9 , or any other CEOL from Denon due to the lack of support for products once purchased.

That's potentially true, but because of some great information in this forum I was able to solve all problems by myself and had no need to contact the support of DENON. However nearly every company limiting the support as much as possible and if the product is fine it should not be neccessary as fas as possible. Did you take my advice into account not to switch between LAN and WiFi? Maybe some of your problems are linked to it, try to reset your router. I double checks the internet radio with my PC. You need to use vTuner on your web browser to verify if the station is the problem or CEOL. I noticed it was always the same. So when it doesn't connect on the CEOL it was the same on the PC. Beside this, I am really curious if the new firmware would run on N7. Surprisingly DENON didn't offer a CD update for N8 so far. Maybe they didn't find a way to prevent upgrading to N8?

[lamoran]

Originally Posted by n7user

Hi everyone,

I own a N7 since November 10 and coped quietly with most of the issues that I seem not to be the only one to have: several months delay to get the 'paid' Airplay update, favorite stations deleted after each update, no Pandora/Rhapsody available in my country, long time to connect to internet stations, occasional internet connection difficulties, some FM radio stations not received properly, software updates to be made via ethernet and not wireless (otherwise it is freezing) and so on...

However today the N7 (last update made a week ago) is freezing completely after 30 seconds in any mode (tuner, CD, internet radio ...). It seems to want to connect to something and stops. I gave a shot to complete reset with the +/- volume buttons but the problem remains, even without having setup any network connection! Anyone having a similar issue and solved the problem?

I am tired of all of this and thinking of giving it back to denon customer service.

Chris

Hi Chris,

I am having the exact same problem with my unit. Did you find a solution/ Can anyone help me?

It seems that I might just need to deactivate the internet radio which wouldn't bother me because I predominantly use it to play records but I can't figure out how I can do that...

Angela

[Fred Quimby]

Looks like Airplay has crashed,mine wont play anything from ITunes.

[clydebest]

Originally Posted by Fred Quimby

Looks like Airplay has crashed,mine wont play anything from ITunes.

I have had mine for over a year , bought it for I.R. and music streaming Napster , the IR is a dogs dinner , works when it wants to , crashes on a regular basis , you take the time to fill up the favorites , it is full with stations , but when you pick one it says empty?. Subscribed to Napster until that was withdrawn, so Last FM apart nothing to stream from N7, Spotify is on the N8 but not N7 why, will not be bothering Denon /Marantz in future with my money, that is all you can do.