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Old 15-12-2008, 1:34 PM   #29
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Re: LE-A656 settings thread *Part 2*

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Originally Posted by kurkosdr View Post
Hello and thanks for all the help in the first part of the topic. You will probably think that I am nuts, but it's been 4 months since I got this tv, and I still can't get a decent picture out of it. I really need help, as I am even thinking of giving it to my parents and go and buy myself another. Here are the two settings I am struggling between:

-The "good quality, but dull looking" setting:

Mode:Movie
-Backlight: 7
-Contrast:95
-Brightness: 49 (configured so by the eye using lagom lcd patterns, so that 2% is visible)
-Sharpness: 20
-Saturation: 50

However, everything is looking a little bit washed out and dull in this setting, it just doesn't have the bright colors of the second setting

-The "good looking but not so good quality" setting:

Mode: Normal
Backlight: 7
Contrast:95
Brightness:51 (configured so by the eye using lagom lcd test patterns, so that 2% is visible. It's exactly the same with the brightness of the other mode, even if the number is higher)
Sharpness: 20
Saturation: 50

However, this mode tends to loose quality in darker parts, no matter how much you increase the brightness (increasing brightness only results in showing up the parts of the dark areas that were crushed to black). This mode crushes the dark blue and dark red parts of the picture more than the dark green, and doesn't crush the dark grey/white ones (this results in a weird picture ofcourse). I would like to keep this mode as it is, with only removing the black crush effect. If it's the DNIe+ causing it, I want to get rid of the DNIe+ by any means possible (my set doesn't have a control for the DNie+ in the picture settings menu as bigger models do)

How can I get rid of the DNIe+ ? Please help!

How can I remove all sorts of "retouching" from the normal mode?

For 4 months, I can't watch dark movies properly in this set, as the DNIe+ (or whatever else causes the black crush) removes al detail from the dark backrounds (so, I have to switch to the "dull" mode everytime)

(if I need to get to the service menu, please also bother to tell what settings I need to note down in order to be able to revert to the factory settings, and what I must not mess with, cos this place is little bit of dangerous for non entusiasts like me)
I think you need to qualify what you mean by 'good quality' when refering to the image...

The first thing I'd do is switch 'Sharpness' to '0'. It has absolutely no benefit to the picture and will infact add information that wasn't in the original image and make the picture worse.
What are your 'Tint', 'Gamma', 'White Balance' and 'Colour Space' settings set to? The same question for 'Colour Tone'?
Do you have any of the picture 'enhancements' switched on?

Overall, your settings look quite average... By that I mean along the same sort of lines as others I've seen. The backlight level is a bit high for my taste but, I'm not watching your screen!

Ahhh, I just noticed that those test patterns your using are designed for PC video level inputs and not video level inputs. That could be your problem...

Have a look on the AVSforums for some proper video level input test patterns.

DNIe doesn't function in 'Standard' and 'Movie' mode, only 'Dynamic' mode.

You shouldn't need to enter the service menu to get a picture that looks good. The A656 series has very good and comprehensive user menu settings!

Paul